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Posted by Mickapoo on December 29, 2008, at 13:34:06
I recently had blood work done and at first I had low glucose. I had follow up blood work and it was normal. Then he ordered a CBC, and it showed that my iron was low. I'm on 75 mg of Nardil. Been on it for about 4 months now. Do MAOIs cause any sort of iron or B12 deficiency?
Thanks!
Mickapoo
Posted by Vincent_QC on December 31, 2008, at 17:10:43
In reply to MAOIs - do they affect your iron level?, posted by Mickapoo on December 29, 2008, at 13:34:06
> I recently had blood work done and at first I had low glucose. I had follow up blood work and it was normal. Then he ordered a CBC, and it showed that my iron was low. I'm on 75 mg of Nardil. Been on it for about 4 months now. Do MAOIs cause any sort of iron or B12 deficiency?
>
> Thanks!
> MickapooHi Mickapoo!
Well I hope that's not related to MAOI's, since i'm also suffer from severe anemia...before I started my Parnate treatment...and before I try the Nardil 90mg/day in 2007.My blood level is at 1 (normal 14 and more) for now with a very low level of hemoglobin something like 80...normally you need 120 and more...That's related to a gastric by-pass I had in 2001...I have to take a lot of vitamins in fact...the anemia problem surfaced only 4 years after the surgery so around 2005. Since then , I was never able to recover at to a normal level of iron in my blood, i'm always around 1-4...And I take 4 pills of iron orally by day (300mgx4=1200mg total/day) and I receive each month I.V. iron directly in my blood, take 1:30 hour each time I go there and that's help a lot with my energy level for the first week but the effect fade away fast...I had it before by intramuscular injections in the (Buttocks) every 2 weeks, but I can't have them now like this because the muscles inside my Buttocks became too hard (indurations) it's like that they call this...
For what I know and what the doctor told me, MAOI's or any newer AD can do effects like this on the blood...but since my problem appear before I try MAOI's and that I was not on a AD treatment at the time, it's probably not related to that...
Anyway, I hope not!!!
Have a nice day ;-)
Posted by Mickapoo on January 1, 2009, at 14:45:29
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo, posted by Vincent_QC on December 31, 2008, at 17:10:43
Thanks Vincent! I know Nardil can affect so many things and I'm not a very technical person so most of that stuff is over my head. I think I remember talking to you when we were both going to switch to Parnate. Did you do so recently? I was intending to, but now I have to switch psychiatrists and he is going to switch me from Nardil to Parnate. Question for you- did your doctor have you stop Nardil for a certain amount of time prior to starting the Parnate? Or did you take them back to back with no break in between? Also, did you go down in dosage on the Nardil before the switch to Parnate? I have an appt next week, and he knows I want to switch, and I'd like to be ready (or as ready as I can be) to make the switch.
Did/do you have any side effects that you didn't have with Nardil? Nardil really hasn't produced many side effects for me except anorgasmia (which after 4 months, finally went away!! Yeay! Gotta make a post about that one by itself too!), and I can eat and eat and never get full. However, I work out a lot and stay in shape so gaining weight isn't an issue. I never have had insomnia or any other side effects that others seem to have.
Did you suffer from sexual side effects on Nardil? And are they still present with Parnate as well? Also, is it true that you lose your appetite? Boy, I'd love that!
Thanks for your input! Oh, I read about you trying an increase in dosage. How long have you been on Parnate?
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 2, 2009, at 15:11:49
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 1, 2009, at 14:45:29
> Thanks Vincent! I know Nardil can affect so many things and I'm not a very technical person so most of that stuff is over my head. I think I remember talking to you when we were both going to switch to Parnate. Did you do so recently? I was intending to, but now I have to switch psychiatrists and he is going to switch me from Nardil to Parnate. Question for you- did your doctor have you stop Nardil for a certain amount of time prior to starting the Parnate? Or did you take them back to back with no break in between? Also, did you go down in dosage on the Nardil before the switch to Parnate? I have an appt next week, and he knows I want to switch, and I'd like to be ready (or as ready as I can be) to make the switch.
>
> Did/do you have any side effects that you didn't have with Nardil? Nardil really hasn't produced many side effects for me except anorgasmia (which after 4 months, finally went away!! Yeay! Gotta make a post about that one by itself too!), and I can eat and eat and never get full. However, I work out a lot and stay in shape so gaining weight isn't an issue. I never have had insomnia or any other side effects that others seem to have.
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> Did you suffer from sexual side effects on Nardil? And are they still present with Parnate as well? Also, is it true that you lose your appetite? Boy, I'd love that!
>
> Thanks for your input! Oh, I read about you trying an increase in dosage. How long have you been on Parnate?
Hi Mickapoo,
My psychiatrist change from the Nardil to the Parnate with a 2 days of time prior. For what I learn here over a lot of discussions, Parnate seem to be more strong, so it's why switching from the Nardil at a low dose to Parnate seem to be more complicated...but how many mg of Nardil do you take everyday? I'm not a doctor or a technical person either, but my advise will be to start the Parnate at the minimum dose of 10mg, since switching from Nardil to Parnate without a washout period of time can sometimes cause more side-effects from the Parnate.I also notice the stimulating effect of the Parnate, but a low dose, mean at 10mg and 20mg...It's seem that the Parnate turn to be not very stimulating at doses above 30mg. I also notice more side-effects than the Nardil...Like I write several times on others post, I had side-effects like orthostatic hypotension or hypertension increase when I reach the 30mg dose/day of Parnate. With the Nardil, I had only these side-effects at 90mg, but with less hypertension problem on the Nardil. I also sleep very well on the Parnate, contrary to the Nardil...and I also tend to be less tired at day time, but I can't avoid the afternoon need to sleep feeling, so I do a nap in the afternoon, at least 1 hour and drink coffee if I can. Nardil had a high tendancy to make me tired all the time...
For the anorgasmia, Nardil is worst...but on the Parnate, don't have a big libido...I mean that I can reach orgasmia but I never think about sex...That's the big difference between Nardil and Parnate. I also eat less on the Parnate, I don't feel the need to eat. Normally if you have some pounds to loose that's great, but me I don'T loose weight no, it's seem that I gain weight even if I don't eat a lot. I also have a small edema problem, I feel that my body absord too much water or fluid in it...I don't feel fat, I feel swollen (sorry, bad english I know...).
I think I begin the Parnate around the 7 december. To be honnest, the first week, I Was suppose to stay at 10mg but I was feeling good so I increase it at 20mg on the 6th days...I Stay like this until the 22 December and increase at 30mg...I had orthostatic problem that surfacing...but very minimal at first. I increase again at 40mg the 29 december...I don't wait a lot between each dose increase cause I always think that if I can take it I go for it...I always need more drugs to feel some improvements or somethings good at least...I know 30mg will not be the target goal...That's why I see this...maybe that's fast but well I prefer to know early if it will work or not, I don't want to loose another 2 months on something who will not work again.
I plan to stay on 40mg for a couple of weeks now. No more increase since my heart go crazy a little bit with the hypertension problem I have right now...I will wait and hope everything will fade away with time...I see also my doctor this week...not the psychiatrist...He will be the one who will perscribe to me the good dosage I need...the psychiatrist have a too slow approach that I liked at first but that I dislike now... I don't see the benefit to stay at 10mg for 1 month like he wanted...IF I have to have side-effects, I Will have them , even if I stay 4 weeks on the same dosage and increase of 10mg the week after...I know my body and my brains and i'm like this...it'S also why I don't lost my time netween dose increasement...
Well I hope this will help you... ;-)
Good luck and i'm sure everything will be fine!!!
Posted by Mickapoo on January 2, 2009, at 21:56:13
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo, posted by Vincent_QC on January 2, 2009, at 15:11:49
Hi Vincent,
I'm on 75 mg of Nardil.So if I switch from Nardil to Parnate is there supposed to be a washout period? Did you decrease your dosage of Nardil bit by bit or just jump right into the Parnate the very next day?
How long once you started Parnate did you notice yourself starting to improve?
I wonder if the low libido tends to go away with time just like the Nardil-induced anogasmia does.
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 3, 2009, at 8:36:42
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 2, 2009, at 21:56:13
> Hi Vincent,
> I'm on 75 mg of Nardil.
>
> So if I switch from Nardil to Parnate is there supposed to be a washout period? Did you decrease your dosage of Nardil bit by bit or just jump right into the Parnate the very next day?
>
> How long once you started Parnate did you notice yourself starting to improve?
>
> I wonder if the low libido tends to go away with time just like the Nardil-induced anogasmia does.
>
>Hi mister!
In theory, I think you are suppose to do a washout period even if you switch from a MAOI to another one. Since the Parnate seem to be more strong, I think switching from the Nardil to the Parnate after one day is not a problem, but only if you begin the Parnate at a low dose for a couple of days, something like a 10mg maximum.Well, improve is a big word...I'm at 40mg/day, I see some improve on my social phobia, and I sleep more well at night and I also decrease my intake of Valium pills each day, but that's it...For the depression side, the general anxiety or panic disorder, that's the same. In general, I feel bad side-effects for a couple of days each time I increase my dose (6-7 days), after, the side-effects tend to fade away, especially the orthostatic hypotension.
For the libido, I know some people tend to be "Pro-libido" on the Parnate, other seem to feel no effect at all on the libido and orgasmia..., others can also find it more hard for sex...For me, I can reach an orgasmia but I never think about sex now. For what I experience, Nardil was the worst for sex problems. I had no libido on it, anogasmia, not able at all to have sex...alone or not...(Sorry, i'm crude here...lol). I'm not a lot into sex normally, and I never had really great sexual life...(social phobia don't help for this), but if you are normally a sexual person, maybe you will be lucky enought to feel no bad effect on you're sexuallity...That's what I wish to you ;-)
Well, I hope everything will be fine with you ;-) Keep posting about your switch from Nardil to Parnate... I'm sure everything will be ok ;-) If I was able to do it, you will be able also, trust me on that!!! ;-)
Bye!!!
Posted by Mickapoo on January 4, 2009, at 14:01:29
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level?, posted by Vincent_QC on January 3, 2009, at 8:36:42
> Hi mister!
> In theory, I think you are suppose to do a washout period even if you switch from a MAOI to another one. Since the Parnate seem to be more strong, I think switching from the Nardil to the Parnate after one day is not a problem, but only if you begin the Parnate at a low dose for a couple of days, something like a 10mg maximum.
>
> Well, improve is a big word...I'm at 40mg/day, I see some improve on my social phobia, and I sleep more well at night and I also decrease my intake of Valium pills each day, but that's it...For the depression side, the general anxiety or panic disorder, that's the same. In general, I feel bad side-effects for a couple of days each time I increase my dose (6-7 days), after, the side-effects tend to fade away, especially the orthostatic hypotension.
>
> For the libido, I know some people tend to be "Pro-libido" on the Parnate, other seem to feel no effect at all on the libido and orgasmia..., others can also find it more hard for sex...For me, I can reach an orgasmia but I never think about sex now. For what I experience, Nardil was the worst for sex problems. I had no libido on it, anogasmia, not able at all to have sex...alone or not...(Sorry, i'm crude here...lol). I'm not a lot into sex normally, and I never had really great sexual life...(social phobia don't help for this), but if you are normally a sexual person, maybe you will be lucky enought to feel no bad effect on you're sexuallity...That's what I wish to you ;-)
>
> Well, I hope everything will be fine with you ;-) Keep posting about your switch from Nardil to Parnate... I'm sure everything will be ok ;-) If I was able to do it, you will be able also, trust me on that!!! ;-)
>
> Bye!!!....................................................................................................................................
Thanks Vincent, very helpful! I'll be changing to Parnate this coming week.
How long have you been on Parnate now? Just wondering how long it will be before you (hopefully) see a really great response to your social phobia.
I don't know about you, but in the beginning on Nardil, I had that wonderful period of time that a lot of people talk about where you have all this energy, are in a better mood, etc.. I was so happy when that happened. I thought that's the way it would stay. And then as quickly as it came, it went away, and I was back to being depressed or indifferent at times.
Did you experience that effect with Parnate in the beginning? Where you had a lot of energy and were in a better mood overall? And then it just went away after you were on it a little while?
Thanks!
'Poo
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 4, 2009, at 15:48:50
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 4, 2009, at 14:01:29
> Thanks Vincent, very helpful! I'll be changing to Parnate this coming week.
>
> How long have you been on Parnate now? Just wondering how long it will be before you (hopefully) see a really great response to your social phobia.
>
> I don't know about you, but in the beginning on Nardil, I had that wonderful period of time that a lot of people talk about where you have all this energy, are in a better mood, etc.. I was so happy when that happened. I thought that's the way it would stay. And then as quickly as it came, it went away, and I was back to being depressed or indifferent at times.
>
> Did you experience that effect with Parnate in the beginning? Where you had a lot of energy and were in a better mood overall? And then it just went away after you were on it a little while?
>
> Thanks!
> 'Poo
>
>HI Mickapoo!
Hummm I don't want to make you feel like you will take a bad decision from changing to the Parnate, especially since you told me that you had a temporary answer on your social phobia and others things on the Nardil...but in general yes, I had more energy at the begining and a more good mod level in general...and it's now return to a 0 level...I'm on the Parnate since the 7th december if I well remember, not sure when was my last psychiatrist appointment...but since i'm on the Parnate, except at extreme low dose 10-20mg/day, I never feel the stimulant effect of it or the euphoria some people are talking about, or the insomnia. Others Parnate users here seem to have all this kind of small remission period with elevated mod level and euphoria states and well being state also, but it's seem to fade away fast...
For me, since a couple of days, I have a lot of energy slumps, I feel the need to sleep all the times, I feel like I just do 3 hours of physical exercices without I move anything on my body...
Yes, I see a little improve on my social phobia, panic disorder and agoraphobia, very little, but it's more a "I don't care about the others" attitude than a real interest to interract socially with the others person I don't know. I think the fact that I had too much problem with each incresement I do, especially the 30mg to 40mg, the hypertension problem, now the low blood pressure and orthostatic hypotension problem take all the place in my life. I forget to care about the others...
I have a most high energy level in the morning, so I can stay awake...open my laptop and do my things...I clean up the house, do my laundry and things like that, but around noon, I already take 30mg of Parnate and I feel so tired that I can't resist and I have to jump in my bed to sleep.
In the end of the afternoon I need coffee more than ever to stay awake. Some people claims that (Wake up" pills of Caffeine pills are more powerfull than coffee and give to them a boost of energy but I can't tolerate them, they increase my general anxiety...Regular coffee give me some energy and help me to recover from the energy slumps I experienced especially in the evening and the end of afternoon. With that small energy, I can take my shower and get ready to go out the house. I normally go out of the house more in the evening, go to a friend house, go to the stores buy what I need, things like that...
I see another kind of improve in the fact that before I had to put a lot times in my preparation on me before I go out...I don't know how to call this in English, but I had to look at myself in the mirror a lot of times and make sure everything was ok...sometimes more than 1 hour...now I take a short shower, put the clothes I see first, I don't care about my hair, I just go out the house like i'm suppose to be, natural. Another time, is it a good effect get by the Parnate or it's just because i'm too lazy now to care about this? I don't know.
For now, I don't understand why they call the Parnate a stimulant drug, cause it's certainly not, in my case. For the Euphoria state found in the increasement of the dose that some people experience, I never felt it. I never also feel the improve from my depression, I don't find things in my life more interresting, I lack a lot of motivation, I feel sad often. No pills help me with that issue...and I try all of them except 3...(Manerix, Cymbalta, Geodon).
I read a lot of post here about Parnate and people talk about remission, about feeling a well being surround them, the energy level getting extremely high... I just wait to this to happen to myself...
I wonder if it's normal to be at 40mg and feel nothing except energy slumps, orthostatic hypotension and hypertension? Maybe I put too much pressure on me and I have too much hope on the Parnate, maybe I have to get my body used to it and maybe it will make THE good effect on me in a couple of weeks only...but what I know for now is that i'm tired to wait to see some improvents and to feel only the side-effects...I begin to think it will be another MAOI's failure story...(Negative think here sorry...)
On the Nardil, at 90mg/day for 3 months I never had a remission of any of my problems, like you seem to experience...I had the same kind of energy slumps, but it was worse...but socially, I was not more interrested in metting new people or I didn't find it more easy to eat in a mailshop or in a restaurant, especially alone, or just do my littles things alone outside the house and have to talk with some people I meet...
So well, I hope I don't break your dream...it's just my experience. I felt a remission on my social phobia only on the Rivotril but for a couple of months (3 months in 2005) , before I get addicted to it and had to double the dosage, triple the dosage and to end up at an extreme high dosage that never work again...8mg/day...
Maybe the Parnate will kick soon, maybe for you it will be a miracle drug, I hope so!!!
I know that I meet my family doctor this week and we will have a bog talk about it, all the side-effects, the dose I take, if I should augment it more fast or slowly, if it's normal to feel little to no improve, except for the small improves on social phobia, panic disorder or insomnia...
I will keep you inform on this ok !!!
For now, keep faith, i'm sure everything will fine, Parnate is not more difficult to take than the Nardil, no more side-effects, they just come at a more low dose than the Nardil...30mg Parnate = 90mg of Nardil for me...in term of side-effects profile and tolerance...
Ho and I forget...I have a lot of pain in my muscles...if I climb stairs or take a walk, I become tired very fast and my muscles burns. I feel also always like it's cold, even if the heating is put at the maximum...Normally i'm the first to find that it's too hot...
Take care of you ok!
Bye!
Vincent!!!
Posted by Mickapoo on January 4, 2009, at 22:09:39
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo, posted by Vincent_QC on January 4, 2009, at 15:48:50
That's interesting that you say that about the muscular pain. I had the same thing with Nardil after the dose was increased. Small things like lifting my arms or making my bed would cause muscular pain. I train with weights, and being that I couldn't even lift my arms by themselves, there was no way I could lift weights!
I'm going to see my new pDoc on Wednesday, and hopefully he'll give me a prescription for Parnate at that time. I'll keep you updated and you do the same!
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 4, 2009, at 23:18:10
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 4, 2009, at 22:09:39
> That's interesting that you say that about the muscular pain. I had the same thing with Nardil after the dose was increased. Small things like lifting my arms or making my bed would cause muscular pain. I train with weights, and being that I couldn't even lift my arms by themselves, there was no way I could lift weights!
>
> I'm going to see my new pDoc on Wednesday, and hopefully he'll give me a prescription for Parnate at that time. I'll keep you updated and you do the same!Hi ;-)
Yeah, that's interresting and I see i'm not alone to feel that strange sensation. Like I write before, it's more a physical fatigue than a mental fatigue, like I experienced on others newer drugs... Maybe the low blood pressure have something to do with the muscular pain or maybe it's the orthostatic hypotension, since I have this everytime I climb stairs...but not often when I just sit somewhere and decide to get up.Anyway, keep posting and I hope you will be able to switch to the Parnate and have more success on it than on the Nardil...
One other thing, you take the Nardil since when exactly? Maybe you mention it in another post but I don't remember...also, what is the dosage?
Sorry for the lack of memory here...that's another thing...I lack concentration often...but that's not related to the Parnate...Possibly an ADD problem diagnosticed last year without hyperactivity of course ;-)
Take care of yourself !!! ;-)
Bye!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by desolationrower on January 8, 2009, at 23:16:52
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 4, 2009, at 22:09:39
I think the thing to keep in mind with a MAOI switch is that if you have completely inhibited MAO with teh first drug, if you switch w/in a day, then the new drug will not be binding to MAO, and so (in the case of parnate) can just have its other effects like catecholamine release, even at low dosage. hence waiting a day or two, and starting low dosage (at least if you're the cautious type)
-d/r
Posted by Mickapoo on January 11, 2009, at 20:48:56
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo, posted by Vincent_QC on January 4, 2009, at 23:18:10
>
> Hi ;-)
> Yeah, that's interresting and I see i'm not alone to feel that strange sensation. Like I write before, it's more a physical fatigue than a mental fatigue, like I experienced on others newer drugs... Maybe the low blood pressure have something to do with the muscular pain or maybe it's the orthostatic hypotension, since I have this everytime I climb stairs...but not often when I just sit somewhere and decide to get up.
>
> Anyway, keep posting and I hope you will be able to switch to the Parnate and have more success on it than on the Nardil...
>
> One other thing, you take the Nardil since when exactly? Maybe you mention it in another post but I don't remember...also, what is the dosage?
>
> Sorry for the lack of memory here...that's another thing...I lack concentration often...but that's not related to the Parnate...Possibly an ADD problem diagnosticed last year without hyperactivity of course ;-)
>
> Take care of yourself !!! ;-)
>
> Bye!
>
> Vincent ;-)Well, I had my appt with a new pDoc on Friday, hoping to switch me from Nardil to Parnate, and whenever they booked me, they gave me the wrong appt time. He had already left for the day! Then they said they couldn't fit me in until March!! I told them I couldn't go that long. Anyway, the family dr on staff told them to bring me in earlier, so now I have an appt in February. I was disappointed. I really, really, wanted to start on Parnate.
I've been on Nardil for 5 months. I take 75 mg daily.
Thanks Vincent, it's nice talking to you! How is the Parnate going? Has it gotten better?
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 12, 2009, at 7:16:37
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 11, 2009, at 20:48:56
>
> Well, I had my appt with a new pDoc on Friday, hoping to switch me from Nardil to Parnate, and whenever they booked me, they gave me the wrong appt time. He had already left for the day! Then they said they couldn't fit me in until March!! I told them I couldn't go that long. Anyway, the family dr on staff told them to bring me in earlier, so now I have an appt in February. I was disappointed. I really, really, wanted to start on Parnate.
>
> I've been on Nardil for 5 months. I take 75 mg daily.
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> Thanks Vincent, it's nice talking to you! How is the Parnate going? Has it gotten better?
>Hi Mickapoo ;-)
Ho...that's horrible....all this waiting time for nothing, that's must be frustrating no?...I hope you will have your next appointment soon, you write february so I assume that's not so soon ;-(Well, i'm not feeling more good or less good...that's the same old story...I stop 3 days the Parnate, I was a lot tired and exhausted like I write to you last week, but at the same time, I realise that the Parnate had some good effects on my anxiety in general, I had to stop it before I realise this I think...
I had already cut my daily dosage of Valium from 20mg to 10-15mg...When I stop the Parnate for 3 days, I had to increase my dose of Valium again to the 20mg/day...so it was the first sign of the good effect of the Parnate on me. I also notice that I was a lot more anxious in social situation...to the point that I had some panic attacks in those 3 days...The Parnate work against the panic attacks...I don't know how, but it work...yes, I can feel sometimes more anxious in a social event or alone at my house, but I never reach the panic attack level on it.
So since yesterday, i'm back on the Parnate boat. I'm at a 30mg/day dose...
Last week, I meet my family doctor for others problems than my social anxiety and depression... He take my blood pressure and he found it a little bit high...I told him about my high blood pressure and things like that and he ask me to return to 30mg/day of Parnate, insistead of the 40mg/day I was taking. He said that I acted like a cowboy and he was not happy about the fact that I play with my blood pressure like it...and that I didn't listen to my body more...
My family doctor his not the one who prescribe my AD's now so he refuse to fill a new prescription at 40mg/day of Parnate for me...he said that he didn't interfer with my Psychiatrist...and he is right about this...And I understand now...
I have an appointment with my Psychiatrist this week, since i'm suppose to be only at 20mg/day, I will try to convince him to let me stay at the 30mg/day and get a fill of my prescription at this dosage...I hope he will not ask me to return to 20mg...that's a low dosage I think... I will see his reaction...but I will tell him the thruth...I have to listen to him, increasing my dosage like I do by my own is not suppose to happen...that's probably why I had so much side-effects also...I always try to go more fast but faster is not a better solution for me...but it seem that I didn't learn my lesson until recently... ;-)
A slow increase of the dose will be need to achieve the goal since I react always more than others people on every drug I try, I always have the rarest side-effects, not the regular ones ...I have to keep in mind that every little improve I can see in me is a step in the good direction, even if i'm not at the dosage I really want, even if my doctor don't want to give more MG each day and even if I not achieve a full remission state... I will take all the improves I can get for now and forget the rest...
Well, that's was my news...i'm just Ok but that's a positive OK... lol ;-)
I hope you are ok also? Being on the Nardil is maybe not your solution to your problems but that's better than nothing no?
Yeah, what happen with your appointment last week is maybe not very funny, but try to think that you will be on the Parnate soon and everything will be fine ;-)
For now, just relaxe your minds and try to keep in mind that some people are a lot more sick than us... At least, you and me are able to open a computer, come here and visit this website, read some threads, answer and talk with others people...
Some others people are completely disable and they canno't do anything...
Like my psychologist told me last week...that's true, I have a diagnosis of social anxiety, general anxiety, depression and panic disorder with agoraphobia, but I have a lot more social skills than a lot of people who don't suffer from all these diseases...So i'm not a lost case (french expression here, sorry...).
Well, for now take care of you ok ;-) Give me some news...I will be always happy to answer to your messages ;-)
Bye!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by SLS on January 21, 2009, at 7:04:05
In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo, posted by Vincent_QC on January 12, 2009, at 7:16:37
I had been on Nardil for 3 years with no effect on my iron or hemoglobin. No anemia.
- Scott
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