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Posted by Maxime on January 8, 2008, at 19:39:55
In reply to Re: let's see how I respond to Wellbutrin! » Maxime, posted by tecknohed on January 8, 2008, at 18:58:19
I think it's because I am taking 200 mg of Seroquel. I think it is helping to keep the voices and paranoia away. When I took it before I took it with clonazepam.
I really hope it actually works!
xxx
Maxime
Posted by Phoenix1 on January 8, 2008, at 22:23:21
In reply to Re: let's see how I respond to Wellbutrin! » tecknohed, posted by Maxime on January 8, 2008, at 19:39:55
> I think it's because I am taking 200 mg of Seroquel. I think it is helping to keep the voices and paranoia away. When I took it before I took it with clonazepam.
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> I really hope it actually works!
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> xxx
> Maxime
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>Hi Maxime,
Glad to hear the Wellbutrin is going OK. I'm sure the Seroquel would help to prevent any psychotic reaction, etc. As you know, it may take a while for the wellbutrin to kick in. Stick with it and I hope it does the trick. In the meantime, keep us updated.
Phoenix1
Posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 19:53:55
In reply to Re: let's see how I respond to Wellbutrin! » Maxime, posted by Phoenix1 on January 8, 2008, at 22:23:21
Suicide. Suicide. Suicide. I can't get it off my mind. Today I waited in a Metro station trying to decide if I should jump or not. I was there at least an hour. I finally decided that it would too messy and I left.
Now it's almost 9 pm and I am still thinking of ways to end it.
I can't live like this much longer. I can't.
Maxime
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 10, 2008, at 21:18:33
In reply to Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 19:53:55
Maxime,
I hate to say this, but the Wellbutrin could be making things worse. I had a rough time switching from a tricyclic to Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin was a good drug for me, but the first few days were very rough and I would have been safer in a hospital.
MB
Posted by Phoenix1 on January 10, 2008, at 21:42:05
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by MidnightBlue on January 10, 2008, at 21:18:33
> Maxime,
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> I hate to say this, but the Wellbutrin could be making things worse. I had a rough time switching from a tricyclic to Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin was a good drug for me, but the first few days were very rough and I would have been safer in a hospital.
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> MBI also had a rough time with Wellbutrin from start to finish. Give it some time, and don't give up. You've made it this far, keep fighting! And if the Wellbutrin isn't right for you, you already have a "card up your sleeve"; another trial of Parnate. So don't despair, you have options. But I do certainly know what it feels like to be in your position, and it's not easy when nothing seems to be doing what it's supposed to. All I can say is that I'd be so disappointed to see you give up. To me, you're one of the more courageous people here at PB who keep on fighting under some very difficult circumstances. keep up the fight!
Phoenix1
Posted by Maxime on January 11, 2008, at 19:06:19
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Phoenix1 on January 10, 2008, at 21:42:05
Thanks Phoenix. You are right, I must continue to fight. I have to admit it's getting harder and harder.
Posted by Maxime on January 11, 2008, at 19:08:14
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by MidnightBlue on January 10, 2008, at 21:18:33
> Maxime,
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> I hate to say this, but the Wellbutrin could be making things worse. I had a rough time switching from a tricyclic to Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin was a good drug for me, but the first few days were very rough and I would have been safer in a hospital.
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> MBThat's interesting MB. I wish I was in hospital. I have returned to work too soon. I thought I was ready. Turns out I am not.
xxx
MAxime
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 11, 2008, at 19:53:28
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » MidnightBlue, posted by Maxime on January 11, 2008, at 19:08:14
You can still go and check in the hospital for a few days or a week to make the med change safer.
MB
Posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 12:06:50
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by MidnightBlue on January 11, 2008, at 19:53:28
> You can still go and check in the hospital for a few days or a week to make the med change safer.
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> MB
I can't do it. When I saw all the work that my colleagues didn't do while I was away I freaked out. I have to work.Also, I don't think checking in for a week is possible. They seem to check people in for MONTHS.
I just have to push myself.
xx
Maxime
Posted by yxibow on January 12, 2008, at 14:01:50
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » MidnightBlue, posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 12:06:50
> > You can still go and check in the hospital for a few days or a week to make the med change safer.
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> > MB
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> I can't do it. When I saw all the work that my colleagues didn't do while I was away I freaked out. I have to work.
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> Also, I don't think checking in for a week is possible. They seem to check people in for MONTHS.
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> I just have to push myself.
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> xx
> Maxime
Pushing yourself is great and if you can do that, all the more power to you. But if you really know that work will in effect cause you to dissociate or "freak out" from stress that's not such a good environment. And I'd be careful to compare yourself, I'd be careful to compare any of us struggling against odds to those who may be in a different position in time or have completely different things going on in their lives. It just demoralizes and gets one more upset. Just my view.
Posted by bulldog2 on January 12, 2008, at 14:53:01
In reply to ack. I am responding differently to every med!, posted by Maxime on January 6, 2008, at 21:10:46
> Yesterday I went snow shoeing and climbed a mountain. Today my muscles ache. But that's not the point. The point is I took an Adderall because I had no energy. That damn med gave me the worst headache. I don't understand. I was taking that med just two months ago and my system could handle it. How could my body change that much.
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> It's weird. I'm confused.
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> MaximeDid you find that climbing the mountain made your depression better? If so than maybe exercise and good nutrition would benefit you.
Posted by Phillipa on January 12, 2008, at 19:31:04
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by yxibow on January 12, 2008, at 14:01:50
Maxie wish I could check into the hospital for a med change supervised they no longer do that in my state unless you are immently suicidal with a plan or have OD'd 72 hours out the door. I remember when I could go in for a med switch was really nice. Now maybe if you have lots of money and a private hospital you can as sure the rich and famous do but not me on medicaire. Off to the state hospital I'd go. When had lymes in a month rationale was the Iv antibiotics and pic line. I was so lucky. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 20:57:45
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by yxibow on January 12, 2008, at 14:01:50
Hi I didn't understand the following from your posts.
"And I'd be careful to compare yourself, I'd be careful to compare any of us struggling against odds to those who may be in a different position in time or have completely different things going on in their lives. It just demoralizes and gets one more upset. Just my view."Did I write something wrong?
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 20:59:41
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Phillipa on January 12, 2008, at 19:31:04
Our hospitals are different than those in the US.
Maxime
Posted by tecknohed on January 12, 2008, at 21:34:40
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » yxibow, posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 20:57:45
> Hi I didn't understand the following from your posts.
> "And I'd be careful to compare yourself, I'd be careful to compare any of us struggling against odds to those who may be in a different position in time or have completely different things going on in their lives. It just demoralizes and gets one more upset. Just my view."
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> Did I write something wrong?
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> Maxime
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>I dont think it was anything you wrote. Think yxibow was trying to help. I think he/she was trying to say try not to compare yourself with others success/failures & that doing so may make you feel worse by making you feel more singled out & hopeless, hence making you more 'upset'. Thats how I decipher it. That right yxibow?
Posted by Racer on January 12, 2008, at 21:39:42
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » yxibow, posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 20:57:45
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> Did I write something wrong?
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> Maxime
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>I don't think so. I think yxibow was trying to say that it doesn't do anyone any good to compare ourselves to others -- in this case, to people who can manage to work regular jobs with regular hours. If you don't suffer from a mood disorder, if you have no major physical problems, no chronic diseases, it's a whole lot easier to do that.
I don't get the sense you do much of that sort of comparison, though -- I think your concerns are about survival, and I understand that. The problem is that you find yourself between a rock and a hard place -- if you go back to the hospital to get stabilized on meds, it may affect your job, and thus your ability to do silly things like pay bills. On the other hand, if you go to work, and do the best you can, while trying to get set up on meds, you run the risk of extending the time it takes to get you stabilized AND you run the risk of having a negative impact on your perceived performance at work. Neither of those is an optimal outcome.
It's a hard decision to make, Maxie -- I think the measurement that might work best in this case is your health: what path offers the best chance of an optimal outcome for you, vis a vis your mental health? And that might be the hospital -- or it might be that working a few days a week helps more, because of the structure it offers and because it offers you a chance to feel capable and productive. I don't know what to suggest to you.
Other than suggesting that I'm glad you're my friend.
Posted by Phillipa on January 13, 2008, at 0:16:02
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on January 12, 2008, at 20:59:41
Maxie they sound very good. I'm envious. Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on January 13, 2008, at 1:00:19
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by tecknohed on January 12, 2008, at 21:34:40
> > Hi I didn't understand the following from your posts.
> > "And I'd be careful to compare yourself, I'd be careful to compare any of us struggling against odds to those who may be in a different position in time or have completely different things going on in their lives. It just demoralizes and gets one more upset. Just my view."
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> > Did I write something wrong?
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> > Maxime
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> I dont think it was anything you wrote. Think yxibow was trying to help. I think he/she was trying to say try not to compare yourself with others success/failures & that doing so may make you feel worse by making you feel more singled out & hopeless, hence making you more 'upset'. Thats how I decipher it. That right yxibow?Yes, that is what I was attempting to get across, apologize if it wasn't more clearer. I guess I was thinking of my situation and how I compare myself to people around me which doesn't help. But this may not be what you're experiencing.
Posted by Maxime on January 13, 2008, at 17:30:36
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » tecknohed, posted by yxibow on January 13, 2008, at 1:00:19
Phew! I thought I had insulted someone.
What I do is than comparing myself to others. I place so much pressure on myself to reach certain standards that I really can't meet, so I am always a failure.
Maxime
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Posted by star008 on January 14, 2008, at 7:28:32
In reply to Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 19:53:55
maxime,,
That is a horrible way to feel.. Instesd of checking in for a few days at a hosp. why don't you call your p-doc and get a med change?? He/she could add something to it or change it.. I had the suicide thoughts daily last winter. Cymbalta made it go away in a matter of days.. I was still depressed but didn't have the constant suicide thing going on in my head. The waiting is so hard.. waiting to feel better and when you are in the middle of it, it feels like it will never come..Someone wrote about cymbalta and how it works more quickly than some if you have a serotonin problem.. It did work quickly for me..Just a thought.. You can make it through this one too maxime..I know how you feel and i hope you get a brak soon
Posted by Maxime on January 14, 2008, at 16:07:45
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » Maxime, posted by star008 on January 14, 2008, at 7:28:32
It has only been a week since I started the Wellbutrin. I have to stick to that before changing anything.
Cymbalta is not yet available in Canada.
Your post made me feel not as lonely. To know that someone understands how I feel really helps a lot.
Maxime
Posted by oldschool305 on January 14, 2008, at 23:31:19
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » star008, posted by Maxime on January 14, 2008, at 16:07:45
Wow. I felt suicidal when I came home today, after quitting my job... because I couldn't freaking SLEEP at all last night. I actually started googling "how to tie a noose". I just wanted to end it all, enough is enough. But I took a nap and all is well now... except for the fact that I am jobless but yah... Hope you're feeling a little better now too.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 15, 2008, at 3:49:09
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Maxime on January 13, 2008, at 17:30:36
> What I do is than comparing myself to others. I place so much pressure on myself to reach certain standards that I really can't meet, so I am always a failure.
I'm sorry things are difficult for you right now, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding comparing yourself to others to Psycho-Babble Psychology. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20080114/msgs/806640.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by FrequentFryer on January 15, 2008, at 22:40:58
In reply to Meanwhile I am ready to die, posted by Maxime on January 10, 2008, at 19:53:55
Yeah don't kill yourself. Me and the psycho bable team will help you get through.
I would say probably 90% of every human being has thought about killin em selves before (obviously some think about it more) In total I have seriously thought about doing myself in probably a total of 2 weeks 24/7 (streched out over my life.)
Ive taken all the major AD's myself and most of them mess me up worse then illicit substances (not that ive done that in a long while.)
Luckily Nardil has me feeling much better (but I have a strong resistance to the contradictions) and I dont know your med history so Ill stay out of that Im sure your getting the best advice possible here.Best of Luck
Freq
> Suicide. Suicide. Suicide. I can't get it off my mind. Today I waited in a Metro station trying to decide if I should jump or not. I was there at least an hour. I finally decided that it would too messy and I left.
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> Now it's almost 9 pm and I am still thinking of ways to end it.
>
> I can't live like this much longer. I can't.
>
> Maxime
Posted by star008 on January 16, 2008, at 22:57:24
In reply to Re: Meanwhile I am ready to die » star008, posted by Maxime on January 14, 2008, at 16:07:45
i tink they just approved it in canada but who is to say if it will work for you or not?? Waht works for some doesn't for others.. I usually call my p-doc and ask for something else if I am feeling that bad and waiting for something to work.. the wating is so hard.. i feel for you maxime..
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