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Posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
Don't have p-doc, just GP, but she will prescribe stuff.
I took seroquel but it made me too sleepy and make me WAY WAY too hungry.
It DID quieten my mind.
I have alot of internal conflict and my head gets noisy and I am so perpertually confused.
My T wants me on meds.
I know there are others in this 'family' of meds. Is eg risperidal less sedating? Do they all make you SO hungry all the time?
I tend to take low doses as meds are strong for me.
Thanks for any help.
Muffled
Posted by Phillipa on November 7, 2007, at 9:18:08
In reply to Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
Hi Muffled how high was your dose of the seroquel. Could it have been too high? Phlllipa
Posted by Racer on November 7, 2007, at 9:51:05
In reply to Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
Abilify might be an option.
I don't know all that much about AAPs, so I don't think I am much help. Seroquel is the one I always hear of as weight neutral -- although, Abilify is considered more activating, so it is less likely to cause the sedation, and probably the appetite changes, too.
Good luck.
Posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 11:55:34
In reply to Re: Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Racer on November 7, 2007, at 9:51:05
Thanks racer and Phillipa.
Its so hard to know.
There are so many out there.....
My T keeps harping on me, so I spose i should try SOMEthing...
M
Posted by B2chica on November 7, 2007, at 13:57:53
In reply to Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
hi muffled. my doc had suggested risperdal at one time. it didn't do much for me, but it works great with some.
and zyprexa worked good for me before and i will get on it tomorrow again.
it seemed to fix most everything for me. just becareful of weight gain. silly thing is, the first time i was on it (zyprexa alone) i didn't gain Anything. the next time i was on it i gained a lot, but my T says she thinks it was actually the zoloft that made me gain weight.just some thoughts.
Posted by bleauberry on November 7, 2007, at 18:25:22
In reply to Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
Generally speaking, seroquel is probably the most sedating of the atypicals APs. I was on zyprexa for many years and liked it. I took it at 4pm, which allowed me to mellow out nicely between 6pm and bedtime. Most people take it closer to bedtime. I think it needed a couple hours to get going first. There was always a slight hangover fuzzy feeling at waking, though slight compared to most meds I've tried, and I did not have any daytime sedation from it.
I tried seroquel and it knocked me for a loop. the sedation, foggyness and fuzzyness was heavy and lasted all day. Talk about sedation. That stuff would be good to shoot at elephants or tigers if you wanted to walk among them safely.
Risperdal is another choice. It is slightly activating at real low doses and then becomes more like an atypical AP is meant to be at doses higher than that, but usually not heavily se dating.
Those two seem to have the best odds of success for most people, with zyprexa probably being best liked and tolerated.
Abilify is popular and when someone likes it they really like it. But, those people are few and far between. Over the years here at pbabble I've seen a lot of people with strange troubles and dislikes on abilify.
All have downsides. With risperdal it is the prolactin raising effect, which increases potential for sexual side effects and other weird hormonal things. Zyprexa has diabetes type risks related to pancreas. That risk can likely be minimized to nothing by keeping your food choices super low in sugars.
In the world of natural medicine, kava kava is similar. It blocks dopamine receptors, it is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, and it somehow interacts with the gaba system similar to benzos, all with the effect of being calming yet not very sedating. Though most recommend it not be used for longterm, that can be said of antidepressants and especially antipsychotics as well.
Posted by nellie7 on November 10, 2007, at 11:25:05
In reply to Re: Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by bleauberry on November 7, 2007, at 18:25:22
Hi bleauberry,
If not mistaken, I recall having heard warnings about kava-kava several years ago. Something about liver or kidney damage...
Nellie.
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> In the world of natural medicine, kava kava is similar. It blocks dopamine receptors, it is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, and it somehow interacts with the gaba system similar to benzos, all with the effect of being calming yet not very sedating. Though most recommend it not be used for longterm, that can be said of antidepressants and especially antipsychotics as well.
Posted by bleauberry on November 10, 2007, at 18:35:38
In reply to Re: Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's? » bleauberry, posted by nellie7 on November 10, 2007, at 11:25:05
> Hi bleauberry,
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> If not mistaken, I recall having heard warnings about kava-kava several years ago. Something about liver or kidney damage...
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> Nellie.I remember that. Those theories have since been disproven. The toxicities had something to do with contaminated batches and other confounding factors with the people involved. The number of cases involved were few, but as usual the media, pharmaceutical, and medical communities went into overdrive to shoot down a natural competitor to their high priced powerful drugs, which are more proven than kava kava to not be friendly to the liver.
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> > In the world of natural medicine, kava kava is similar. It blocks dopamine receptors, it is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, and it somehow interacts with the gaba system similar to benzos, all with the effect of being calming yet not very sedating. Though most recommend it not be used for longterm, that can be said of antidepressants and especially antipsychotics as well.
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Posted by Zyprexa on November 12, 2007, at 13:16:02
In reply to Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Muffled on November 7, 2007, at 9:01:57
Geodon, Abilify. Abilify will lose weight, in my case, even if you eat more. Geodon, most people don't gain on this. I didn't gain much on Geodon, but I was also getting lazy at the time. I did become diabetic while taking geodon? Not sure why.
Posted by Muffled on November 12, 2007, at 13:26:35
In reply to Re: Can anybody help here?Re:AAP's?, posted by Zyprexa on November 12, 2007, at 13:16:02
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