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Posted by suebird on May 9, 2007, at 16:56:21
well i went back to the p-doc today because I was not getting any better i was crying a lot more so he took my Paxil from 40mgs to 60 mgs and wellbutrin sr he kept at 200 mgs and he lower the clonazpam down to 0.5 morning in 0.5 night so i hope this gets me out of this whole that ive been in since my surgery. he wants me to take the 30 mgs of paxil in the morning with the200mgs welbutrin and 20mgs of paxil with the 0.5 before I go to bed. thanks PLEASE HELP
Posted by Racer on May 9, 2007, at 18:14:55
In reply to help meds, posted by suebird on May 9, 2007, at 16:56:21
What sort of help are you looking for? Knowing that will make a lot of difference in what gets offered...
As for the meds situation, the maximum dose of Paxil is either 50mg (according the RxList.com) or 60mg, according to our very own SLS's chart. As I recall, though, you only recently changed the medication, didn't you? I see a post entitled "Starting new med" dated 5/6/07, so you wouldn't be aware of any changes in that time. (http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20070502/msgs/756305.html)
Honestly, there's not much that can happen right now, while you're waiting for medications to kick in. The best you can do is remind yourself, over and over, that something will happen, and that there's nothing you can do to speed things along. It's hard, I know it's hard, but it can be done.
Good luck.
Posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 20:10:39
In reply to help meds, posted by suebird on May 9, 2007, at 16:56:21
I suggest following what your doc advises and, the most difficult of all, give it time.
I well understand, when struggling, patience is extremely hard. From someone who was not tolerant of the *getting through/start up* time & who did NOT give meds time to be effective over many years and many meds, only to discover FINALLY doing so put me into remission, I urge you give yourself TIME. Use your doc as your resource and maybe think if therapy could be helpful, if you haven't already done so. Too much time on internet boards was not good for me either - proactive and informed is good but researching and reading to an obsessive and hyperviligent level was counterproductive to me getting well.
Posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 21:57:55
In reply to Re: help meds » suebird, posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 20:10:39
Suebird I answered below and Intrepid really it was counterproductive to worry about upped doses? As that is what I'm doing to myself now. Love Phillipa
Posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 22:14:29
In reply to Re: help meds, posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 21:57:55
> Suebird I answered below and Intrepid really it was counterproductive to worry about upped doses? As that is what I'm doing to myself now. Love Phillipa
Pondering, dwelling, ruminating and what ifing were a large part of my life as I've been challenged with GAD for all of my life that I'm aware of. To some degree, innate to me and secondarily, re-enforced as a learned behavior. I'm assured doing all the fretting I've done did not effect outcomes. In the case of beginning a new med or making a change medwise, I am now assured it was harmful and delayed response.
Posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 22:19:37
In reply to Re: help meds » Phillipa, posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 22:14:29
So have you improved on your outlook or not? If so can I have your secret? Please begging on hands and knees. Love Phillipa
Posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 22:47:40
In reply to Re: help meds » Intrepid, posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 22:19:37
> So have you improved on your outlook or not?
Yes, very much so.
If so can I have your secret? Please begging on hands and knees. Love Phillipa
Meds helped, therapy helped. Being aware of how damaging the effects of worry are (mind and body), being aware of the fact I had made this behavior part of my day to day and very much wanting to change that behavior was key. I was sabotaging myself as I confused appropriate concern with detrimental dwelling. It was not something that magically went away, so there is no secret but hard work that happened in babysteps over time.
Posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 23:01:10
In reply to Re: help meds » Phillipa, posted by Intrepid on May 9, 2007, at 22:47:40
Oh I'm definitely taking babysteps did you see the movie? Anyway big step tomorrow for me I get to drive myself to get a new perm. Now isn't that ridiculous for an old lady like me. I used to work as an RN in a jail and in psych locked unit and wasn't afraid at all. What happened to that brave person? Oh I know she had to start taking meds. And her body failed her. Wasn't supposed to Love Phillipa ps I took a slightly larger dose of luvox cause of you.
Posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 7:49:25
In reply to Re: help meds » Intrepid, posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2007, at 23:01:10
> Oh I'm definitely taking babysteps did you see the movie? Anyway big step tomorrow for me I get to drive myself to get a new perm. Now isn't that ridiculous for an old lady like me.
No. Having a life happens in babysteps. The constant is life changes - we change in mind, body and circumstances. Adaptations are critical. I have read somewhere (may have been here) that some of roots of depression is lamenting or glorifying the past we thought we had - sometimes a case of focusing on the all the good stuff and sometimes a case of focusing on the bad stuff. And anxiety is rooted in dreading the future we imagine for ourselves. The task is living in the present - not recklessly but realistically seeing our lives and empowering ourselves to seek the changes needed and improvements needed and take steps to make them.I liked a recent N. Giovanni quote (paraphrased):
^I am stronger than I believe myself to be and not quite the person I’m wanting to become.^
Posted by gardenergirl on May 10, 2007, at 8:11:09
In reply to Re: help meds » Phillipa, posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 7:49:25
Posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 8:31:28
In reply to Wow! Excellent post (nm) » Intrepid, posted by gardenergirl on May 10, 2007, at 8:11:09
Thank you. It is nice when my ramblings appear to make sense to someone other than myself :)
Posted by Phillipa on May 10, 2007, at 19:37:54
In reply to Ah, I blush » gardenergirl, posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 8:31:28
Made sense to me too and I accomplished the goal was supposed to an hour was three. Love Phillipa
Posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 20:14:59
In reply to Re: Ah, I blush » Intrepid, posted by Phillipa on May 10, 2007, at 19:37:54
Small steps
Posted by johnnyj on May 10, 2007, at 20:35:02
In reply to Good for you » Phillipa, posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 20:14:59
Beautiful posts, thank you very much. I have come to the fact I sabotage myself as well in negative thinking. Changing takes time, lots of time.
cheers
johnnyj
Posted by Intrepid on May 10, 2007, at 21:28:21
In reply to Re: Good for you » Intrepid, posted by johnnyj on May 10, 2007, at 20:35:02
> Beautiful posts, thank you very much. I have come to the fact I sabotage myself as well in negative thinking. Changing takes time, lots of time.
>
> cheers
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> johnnyjThank you, johnnyj. Don't beat yourself up over it. In many respects, it is very much part of how these diseases speak to us and alter our preceptions. The first step is being aware of it. I wish you the best in this journey. We are all a work in progress - the good thing is when the progress heads in the correct direction.
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