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Posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 16:04:54
Like a mug I sent for it. It's basically, if the life you have isn't what you want, either change it or change what you want.
I may be missing something but that's what it seems to be saying, couched in gobbly language like "Eomotional Logical Operators or ELOs".
I don't feel disloyal in telling you all. If it had been a dramatic, ground-breaking work I might have. Besides this stuff is not new is it? It must go back to the dawn of time. It's certainly in "The Human Givens", which is pretty neolithic
Has anyone else tried the 3 min cure?
Fred
Posted by Ines on March 29, 2007, at 16:59:12
In reply to The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 16:04:54
Hi Fred,
Haven't heard of it, but it sounds a bit like gobbledygook to me... there's something to be said for changing what you feel is wrong in your life, or changing your expectations of life, but that's ignoring the basic premise that for some people there is some problem that won't be fixed by changes in living choices. I concluded that after 10 years of changing jobs, homes and just about everything around me in quest of happiness. Only to have it hit me in the face that it doesn't work because I always take my brain with me... then again, I was less unhappy in some places than in others, so it does work to a certain extend. Also I suppose taking an SSRI could be considered a way of changing what you want- you may still want the same things but not care so much if you don't get them....
Also, I can honestly say the only thing I really want is contentement. Maybe I should write to them to ask if I it's advisable that I change that goal? ;-)
Mind you, I also buy all sorts of depression cure kits and the like. The latest is a gaiam 'start and end your day with meditation' dvd. Hmmmm... can't believe I confessed to that!
Ines
Posted by Phillipa on March 29, 2007, at 19:35:25
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by Ines on March 29, 2007, at 16:59:12
Ines have done the same thing since I've been sick. Moved and it's better for a while but it always comes back. I think there is something I can't face or don't want to. I know one is my aging and I look around and see how little years I have to be active and maybe content. I used to be very happy. Love Phillipa
Posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 19:45:58
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by Ines on March 29, 2007, at 16:59:12
Ines Gaiaim what's that? I have spurts of meditation. I still believe it's probably the only route to contentment and our true desire is peace of mind. But this guy on the CD talks about wanting big red brrm brrm cars as if those are real requirements
Fred
Posted by Ines on March 30, 2007, at 16:38:03
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » Ines, posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 19:45:58
I know what you mean Philippa. I see some of my friends who just seem to take joy from day to day life and I panic I'll never have that, and panic at the thought that so much of my life has gone by wasted on depression. But then the fact that I have this problem has made me see so much more of the world than most people because of the whole moving issue. I like to think that when I'm old and happy I'll appreciate that. I have to hang on to something... :-)
Fred, Gaiam is an american yoga/pilates/meditation company. They produce quite good instructional videos. Here's teh link if you're interested http://www.gaiam.com/retail/YogaFitness
I must say I'm biased towards the yoga/meditation ones because I think the instructor is gorgeous and he sits half naked in the sand most of the time ;-). I love the idea of meditation, but in practice I just cannot manage it- I cannot quiet my mind no matter how much I try, and meditation sessions always seem to end up as torture sessions. I've only ever tried self-coaching though, I keep thinking I should try a proper course. A friend of mine who the most contagiously happy and bubbly person I know meditates regularly. She says she used to have mood issues before she discovered meditation, although I suspect her view of what would constitute mood issues is very different from mine or yours... Still, it clearly helps her stay in shape, mentally speaking .
Ines
Posted by Iansf on March 30, 2007, at 23:37:32
In reply to The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 16:04:54
So what's the highly-touted "brain switch" the originator brags about?
Have you asked for your money back? I know it comes with a money-back guarantee. I'm curious to know whether they honor it. I've found their marketing enticing, but the snake-oil aura around it has always bothered me, especially the warning that the site won't be available if you don't act now and the claims that the medical establishment is furious because it's taking customers away.
John
> Like a mug I sent for it. It's basically, if the life you have isn't what you want, either change it or change what you want.
>
> I may be missing something but that's what it seems to be saying, couched in gobbly language like "Eomotional Logical Operators or ELOs".
>
> I don't feel disloyal in telling you all. If it had been a dramatic, ground-breaking work I might have. Besides this stuff is not new is it? It must go back to the dawn of time. It's certainly in "The Human Givens", which is pretty neolithic
>
> Has anyone else tried the 3 min cure?
> Fred
Posted by rvanson on March 31, 2007, at 1:27:20
In reply to The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 16:04:54
No, but I tried Scientology.
Even worse the TMDC, they are much like the "Hotel California". Once you go in the door, they dont like you leaving too much.
I am surprised that so many famous people have fallen for thier peculiar brand of pseudo-science "religion".
Posted by FredPotter on March 31, 2007, at 21:48:14
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by Iansf on March 30, 2007, at 23:37:32
I don't know what the mind switch is. I'll ask him. Perhaps I haven't got the whole recording
Posted by FredPotter on March 31, 2007, at 21:52:18
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure', posted by rvanson on March 31, 2007, at 1:27:20
It doesn't seem much like Scientology to me. I don't understand about them not letting you leave. I can put them in my Spam filter, and I live in New Zealand, far away from Mike Freeman physically
Fred
Posted by Iansf on April 1, 2007, at 15:45:56
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » Iansf, posted by FredPotter on March 31, 2007, at 21:48:14
> I don't know what the mind switch is. I'll ask him. Perhaps I haven't got the whole recording
Perhaps we're talking about two different products. If what you bought is the 3-minute depression cure from Mike Freeman, his promos talk about a chemical "brain switch" that can be used to stop depression. In fact at some points he refers to it as "Bill's Brain Switch Depression Cure." His "video" promo (actually it's a slide show with sound) makes it seem as that turning this switch off is what you'll learn how to do. Does this sound like what you bought?
Posted by FredPotter on April 1, 2007, at 18:37:45
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » FredPotter, posted by Iansf on April 1, 2007, at 15:45:56
Thanks for the info. No that doesn't sound at all like what I bought. Perhaps he promises one thing then sends another. Basically it says you have life the way it is and life the way you'd like it to be. If you can't change the one change the other.
Fred
Posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 0:04:52
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » Iansf, posted by FredPotter on April 1, 2007, at 18:37:45
> Thanks for the info. No that doesn't sound at all like what I bought. Perhaps he promises one thing then sends another. Basically it says you have life the way it is and life the way you'd like it to be. If you can't change the one change the other.
> FredBut was it the Mike Freeman product?
Posted by FredPotter on April 2, 2007, at 16:09:09
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » FredPotter, posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 0:04:52
Yes Mike Freeman 3 minutes depression cure
Posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 16:36:44
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » Iansf, posted by FredPotter on April 2, 2007, at 16:09:09
Again, I hope you plan to take advantage of his money-back guarantee. And if he refuses to honor it, you should take the matter up with your credit card company, presuming that's how you paid. What a disappointment. There are so many hucksters out there.
Posted by FredPotter on April 2, 2007, at 20:31:15
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » FredPotter, posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 16:36:44
Thanks what can my credit card co do?
Posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 23:33:56
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » Iansf, posted by FredPotter on April 2, 2007, at 20:31:15
> Thanks what can my credit card co do?
First copy the money-back guarantee from his promos (and copy the web address). Then contact Freeman and ask for your money back. If he refuses, contact your credit card's customer service and challenge the charge, telling them he refused to honor his guarantee. Tell them you have proof that he offers such a guarantee and can provide it to them. They will suspend the credit temporarily until they see the offer and contact him to get his side of the story. But since you have proof of the guarantee, ultimately they WILL remove the charge from your bill. He will have to pay your credit card company back under threat of their refusal to accept all future charges from his company. Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discovery (and PayPal) are all very good about this. I have challenged charges several times and always won. Freeman's guarantee is clearcut, offering your money back if you are not satisfied. He cannot back down from it. It's stated in such a way that you don't have to prove anything - all you have to do is state you're not satisfied. If you paid by check, it's a more difficult situation, but if you paid by credit card or paypal, you should have no problem at all. Good luck.
Posted by FredPotter on April 3, 2007, at 4:26:09
In reply to Re: The Three minute Depression 'cure' » FredPotter, posted by Iansf on April 2, 2007, at 23:33:56
This is so informative. I'll print it off and stick it on my office wall. Very many thanks Fred
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