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Posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 13:50:29
Damn I'm confused!
Today I took a really low dose of Ritalin, 5mg I think.
I felt much calmer and happier for a while!
Why is this?
Do I really have ADD?I'd just convinced myself it was stupid of me to think I could possible have it.
I don't think Dexedrine made me calm, but maybe my dose was to high!
So confused!
Posted by linkadge on November 26, 2006, at 13:55:25
In reply to Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why?, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 13:50:29
Why did the doctor prescribe it? ADHD ?
Linkadge
Posted by crazy horse on November 26, 2006, at 13:56:50
In reply to Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why?, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 13:50:29
> Do I really have ADD?
This was my first guess. Think of it this way (if you are ADD) things could be much worse!-Monte
Posted by Declan on November 26, 2006, at 15:03:45
In reply to Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why?, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 13:50:29
Well Tom, if you were American you'd have ADHD, but as you are British you don't.
(I very much enjoyed the university library on Ritalin. The new building, the clean smell of books, the design in the carpet, it was all a delight.)
Posted by Iansf on November 26, 2006, at 15:08:50
In reply to Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why?, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 13:50:29
Ritalin helps calm many people. I sleep much better on it. I don't wake up during the night and toss and turn a lot less. In a sense, it shouldn't matter whether you have ADD or not. If a med helps and doesn't harm, then it makes sense to take it. Ideally, the decision to use or not use a medication should be based on its effectiveness, not on the diagnosis.
> Damn I'm confused!
>
> Today I took a really low dose of Ritalin, 5mg I think.
>
> I felt much calmer and happier for a while!
>
> Why is this?
> Do I really have ADD?
>
> I'd just convinced myself it was stupid of me to think I could possible have it.
>
> I don't think Dexedrine made me calm, but maybe my dose was to high!
> So confused!
Posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 16:03:58
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why? » Tom Twilight, posted by Iansf on November 26, 2006, at 15:08:50
Thanks for responses all :)
UK docs hate stimulants
So I'm afraid I had to order it over the net
Getting a script for it is just about possible in the UK, but not easy.
An NHS Psych at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge-Thats a teaching hospital for Gods sake!
Told me that "Ritalin is addictive and Neurotoxic"
I don't know what gave him the authority to say that
Posted by Quintal on November 26, 2006, at 17:14:56
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 16:03:58
I've always thought it was a delicious irony that the country that invented the 'War on Drugs' seems to have few qualms about feeding controlled substances such as Ritalin and Desoxyn (crystal meth) to its children.
Q
Posted by linkadge on November 26, 2006, at 17:41:56
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone, posted by Tom Twilight on November 26, 2006, at 16:03:58
"Ritalin is addictive and Neurotoxic".
There is some truth to that though.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on November 26, 2006, at 17:45:11
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone » Tom Twilight, posted by Quintal on November 26, 2006, at 17:14:56
Ritalin activates intermediate early genes, cFOS, delta FosB, in the neucleus accumbens, just like do harder drugs like cocaine (ie so called addiction switch)
Some studies suggest that these genes remain activated long after the drug is discontinued.
So, when a kid treated with an ADHD med growing up becomes addicted to cocaine, is it the ADHD or the previously activated addiction genes?
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on November 26, 2006, at 21:49:17
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone, posted by linkadge on November 26, 2006, at 17:45:11
I heard a lot grow up to become bipolar any truth in that? Love Phillipa
Posted by jealibeanz on November 27, 2006, at 14:40:28
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on November 26, 2006, at 21:49:17
I'd say bipolars who took Ritalin were predisposed. ADHD usually shows up much earlier than bioplor. People with ADHD are common seen with comorbid depression, anxiety, bipolar, addiction, tic disorders, Tourettes. A lot of people think stimulants cause tics in some kids. While this may be true in some cases, in others, it just uncovered the disorder that was yet to be fully manifested.
Posted by linkadge on November 27, 2006, at 18:28:46
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Thanks everyone, posted by jealibeanz on November 27, 2006, at 14:40:28
There are a lot of genes altered by stimulant treament. Some of the genes altered by stimulant treatment are the exact genes being studied as contributing to bipolar symptoms.
Linkadge
Posted by Morhoun on November 27, 2006, at 19:49:32
In reply to Re: Ritalin-Calmed me down!-Why? » Tom Twilight, posted by Iansf on November 26, 2006, at 15:08:50
> Ritalin helps calm many people. I sleep much better on it. I don't wake up during the night and toss and turn a lot less. In a sense, it shouldn't matter whether you have ADD or not. If a med helps and doesn't harm, then it makes sense to take it. Ideally, the decision to use or not use a medication should be based on its effectiveness, not on the diagnosis.
I second that, you don't have to be ADHD for Ritalin to calm you down. Stimulants are fantastic feeling drugs but they can be very hard on your system. Often times they make people much more emotional and even depressed after that initial 2-3 week high phase.
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