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Posted by blueberry on June 16, 2006, at 5:54:38
I wonder what dose of lithium orotate equals a dose of lithobid or other common lithiums? For example, 100mg lithium orotate = 300mg lithium citrate, or whatever.
What side effects could be expected from orotate lithium compared to other lithiums?
If there is to be any benefit for depression, what is the timeframe of onset of action?
Posted by cache-monkey on June 16, 2006, at 13:43:14
In reply to How to compare lithobid to lithium orotate?, posted by blueberry on June 16, 2006, at 5:54:38
I'm probably not representative of the general population, since I feel some effect of ridiculously low doses of lithium. But here's my story.
For lithium carbonate at a dose of 112.5 per day (a 450 mg tab quartered) is enough to keep the worst of my mixed states in check. But even at that dose I get a strong urinary tract (UT) reaction. (The feeling like I have to go #1 all the time; it seems to be due to irritation.)
I recently tried switching out in favor of lithium orotate. I think that 65ish milligrams is doing about the same for me, although I might need around 90 mg. So that's about a 1/2 or 3/4 to 1 equivalency (LiOr to LiCO3).
The orotate does seem to reduce the irritation in my bladder. Also, my vision has gotten decidedly less blurry. So those are improvements.
BUT, on the orotate my kidneys end up hurting instead, which I don't think is a good thing. I may have to go back to the carbonate (or the citrate).
Then again, I seem to have an incredibly sensitive system... If you've not been having UT problems on the carbonate, you may very well not experience any issues with the orotate. (Although, do keep in mind that some people end up not derived much benefit from the orotate.)
Good luck and be careful,
cache-monkey
Posted by yxibow on June 16, 2006, at 23:55:16
In reply to How to compare lithobid to lithium orotate?, posted by blueberry on June 16, 2006, at 5:54:38
> I wonder what dose of lithium orotate equals a dose of lithobid or other common lithiums? For example, 100mg lithium orotate = 300mg lithium citrate, or whatever.
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> What side effects could be expected from orotate lithium compared to other lithiums?
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> If there is to be any benefit for depression, what is the timeframe of onset of action?
Lithium orotate is basically a homeopathic level of Lithium. It has no FDA approved use and most preparations are unlikely to help. It is an "alternative" medication.
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