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Posted by willyee on May 16, 2006, at 6:27:04
I know im posting a lot latly,its just an outlet for me,but i do have a question i have been wondering,if im doing really bad,is it possable to go on a opiod treatment?
Aside from ect,and maois which ive done,can i even toy the idea someone is willing to try this?
I ask cause i have a cousin who survived 9/11 only months later to be hit by a car and paralyzied from the neck down.
A young man,wit a full family including new born twins,i wondered how he can manage to live everyday,that was until i talked to him,they keep him so drugged up i dont think he knows his name.Of course i dont want this extreme,but im ready for that tank attachment to my back,and the iv in the arm and let me just live out my days with a opiod back pack lol.Seriously im wondering if any doc considers opiod treatment.
Posted by Phillipa on May 16, 2006, at 22:19:46
In reply to someone who might know...., posted by willyee on May 16, 2006, at 6:27:04
Asked my doc for one percocet a day when I was rx'd them my husband said I was laughting the doc said do you want to be a n addict no. Stupid fool the Ad's are addictive. Love Phillipa
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 16, 2006, at 23:01:01
In reply to someone who might know...., posted by willyee on May 16, 2006, at 6:27:04
> Of course i dont want this extreme,but im ready for that tank attachment to my back,and the iv in the arm and let me just live out my days with a opiod back pack lol.Seriously im wondering if any doc considers opiod treatment.
You should be able to find lots of info if you search this site for buprenorphine.
Lar
Posted by willyee on May 17, 2006, at 8:17:11
In reply to Re: someone who might know.... » willyee, posted by Larry Hoover on May 16, 2006, at 23:01:01
Thats the one ive been wondering on,thanks.I spoke to my pharmacist who is my age and my friend actualy,and he said here where we live that drug is very much IN BIG BROTHERS EYS and not just anyone gets it,he admiited knowing me for so long that even in my case he dident see me getting it,but thats not gonna stop me from pursuing it as an option,chairmans details of his success on it is very uplifting.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2006, at 9:09:12
In reply to Re: someone who might know...., posted by willyee on May 17, 2006, at 8:17:11
> Thats the one ive been wondering on,thanks.I spoke to my pharmacist who is my age and my friend actualy,and he said here where we live that drug is very much IN BIG BROTHERS EYS and not just anyone gets it,he admiited knowing me for so long that even in my case he dident see me getting it,but thats not gonna stop me from pursuing it as an option,chairmans details of his success on it is very uplifting.
Yes, it is uplifting.
This "war on drugs" mentality is so messed up. Alcohol prohibition got us gangs roaming the streets with automatic weapons (Al Capone, et al). Opiates *can* be abused. So what. They can also be the most therapeutic substance that there is, in all creation. Marijuana, the same. Do you know why marijuana became illegal? It's because the alcohol distillers didn't want their monopoly disrupted by competition. They didn't want to compete with something that grows like a weed. So they made movies like Reefer Madness. And they lobbied the government (read paid the politicians) to retain the monopoly on relaxation aids.
So, what do we have today? We have people spending decades of their lives overcoming the adverse effects of growing in an alcoholic environment. We have horrific automobile accidents. We have massive medical costs. And the violence that arises through the facilitation of this drug, alcohol. And some real fat cats, rolling in money.
Sorry for the soapbox moment, willy.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2006, at 9:29:15
In reply to Re: someone who might know.... » willyee, posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2006, at 9:09:12
> > Thats the one ive been wondering on,thanks.I spoke to my pharmacist who is my age and my friend actualy,and he said here where we live that drug is very much IN BIG BROTHERS EYS and not just anyone gets it,he admiited knowing me for so long that even in my case he dident see me getting it,but thats not gonna stop me from pursuing it as an option,chairmans details of his success on it is very uplifting.
>
> Yes, it is uplifting.
>
> This "war on drugs" mentality is so messed up. Alcohol prohibition got us gangs roaming the streets with automatic weapons (Al Capone, et al). Opiates *can* be abused. So what. They can also be the most therapeutic substance that there is, in all creation. Marijuana, the same. Do you know why marijuana became illegal? It's because the alcohol distillers didn't want their monopoly disrupted by competition. They didn't want to compete with something that grows like a weed. So they made movies like Reefer Madness. And they lobbied the government (read paid the politicians) to retain the monopoly on relaxation aids.
>
> So, what do we have today? We have people spending decades of their lives overcoming the adverse effects of growing in an alcoholic environment. We have horrific automobile accidents. We have massive medical costs. And the violence that arises through the facilitation of this drug, alcohol. And some real fat cats, rolling in money.
>
> Sorry for the soapbox moment, willy.
>
> LarP.S. Do you know which drug is by far the most likely to be associated with suicide? It ain't Prozac. It's ethanol. Booze. Alcohol. There isn't another drug that even comes close. We're talking almost an order of magnitude greater than all others.
It really upsets me that so much attention is being paid to SSRIs, when right in front of our faces, alcohol is killing people. Willful blindness? WTF?
Lar
Posted by Bonnie_CA on May 18, 2006, at 14:27:22
In reply to Re: someone who might know...., posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2006, at 9:29:15
> > > Thats the one ive been wondering on,thanks.I spoke to my pharmacist who is my age and my friend actualy,and he said here where we live that drug is very much IN BIG BROTHERS EYS and not just anyone gets it,he admiited knowing me for so long that even in my case he dident see me getting it,but thats not gonna stop me from pursuing it as an option,chairmans details of his success on it is very uplifting.
> >
> > Yes, it is uplifting.
> >
> > This "war on drugs" mentality is so messed up. Alcohol prohibition got us gangs roaming the streets with automatic weapons (Al Capone, et al). Opiates *can* be abused. So what. They can also be the most therapeutic substance that there is, in all creation. Marijuana, the same. Do you know why marijuana became illegal? It's because the alcohol distillers didn't want their monopoly disrupted by competition. They didn't want to compete with something that grows like a weed. So they made movies like Reefer Madness. And they lobbied the government (read paid the politicians) to retain the monopoly on relaxation aids.
> >
> > So, what do we have today? We have people spending decades of their lives overcoming the adverse effects of growing in an alcoholic environment. We have horrific automobile accidents. We have massive medical costs. And the violence that arises through the facilitation of this drug, alcohol. And some real fat cats, rolling in money.
> >
> > Sorry for the soapbox moment, willy.
> >
> > Lar
>
> P.S. Do you know which drug is by far the most likely to be associated with suicide? It ain't Prozac. It's ethanol. Booze. Alcohol. There isn't another drug that even comes close. We're talking almost an order of magnitude greater than all others.
>
> It really upsets me that so much attention is being paid to SSRIs, when right in front of our faces, alcohol is killing people. Willful blindness? WTF?
>
> Lar
>
lol Lar, you're so right. our country accepts all the wrong things. I mean, have you ever heard of a person that is only on mj beating their wife, or doing anything violent for that matter? no, but you hear about it all the time with alcohol. blah.
-Bonnie
Posted by shasling on May 18, 2006, at 21:30:37
In reply to someone who might know...., posted by willyee on May 16, 2006, at 6:27:04
> I know im posting a lot latly,its just an outlet for me,but i do have a question i have been wondering,if im doing really bad,is it possable to go on a opiod treatment?
>
> Aside from ect,and maois which ive done,can i even toy the idea someone is willing to try this?
>
> I ask cause i have a cousin who survived 9/11 only months later to be hit by a car and paralyzied from the neck down.
>
>
> A young man,wit a full family including new born twins,i wondered how he can manage to live everyday,that was until i talked to him,they keep him so drugged up i dont think he knows his name.
>
> Of course i dont want this extreme,but im ready for that tank attachment to my back,and the iv in the arm and let me just live out my days with a opiod back pack lol.Seriously im wondering if any doc considers opiod treatment.You could start here: "http://www.buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/bwns_locator/index.html" to find a local doc licensed to treat with it. I know of a guy whose depression is treated with it, he says it works great for him. Good luck
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