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Posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
I cnat say how miserable my mind will get during hte day, i try to take naps, nothing! my brain wave pattern stays on a "plane" it doesnt slope down to sleep pattern waves.
I try to focus very hard to get to sleep, i think im doing it! yes its almost here, but then .................. im still waiting. THen UGHHHHGHH, forget it!
I am not having siezures, but i dont know why my pattern waves dont shut down. When something really hard hits in the day, i cant explain but i stay in emerency mode the rest of the day, the feeling of that adrenaline soaked in your abdomin is beyond reality. How do i get the hell rid of this!!
my thoughts seem to lose their "connected" order, they go random, some familiar images from my memory, some RANDOM from no where. I dont know at the time, i think it is best to get on an moderte potency anti-psychotic for a while.
Suicide comes not from just oh sorrow hopelessness for not doing anything, it feel relieving that it will be over, all this mental chaos that is megapanic mode will be over. I think this and i actually sigh in relief. But i dont have plans..... first of all i need to get SCANS. Giving up is treason.
Restoril and Ativan i belive i have adapted to, i dont know. I have been having a problem with waking up at around 3:45 and i cannot go back to sleep. I got maybe 6 hour sleep, which is at least some rest. I hope i dont have fatal insomnia. I stay up for the rest of the time, trying to occupy myself.
I know barbiturates do not have good names, but i may ask about phenobarbital during the night because of its long duration 10-12 hours. this hopefully should keep me asleep all night, until 7:00am which is when i get dressed. Phenobarbital i dont belive has "pronounced" tolerance problems, and less addictive of all the barbiturate class, i 'belive'. Does anyone with some knowing, will tell me if this may help?
Please, i have got to go, i AM in a rush mode right now, i am going to my pdoc tommorow. I have informed him and discussed this long time but its getting miserable.
Please tell me something.
take care
matt
Posted by ed_uk on June 2, 2005, at 15:53:37
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
Hi Matt!
>I dont know at the time, i think it is best to get on an moderte potency anti-psychotic for a while.
Have you ever tried one???
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by jay on June 2, 2005, at 17:22:03
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
Hi....well my first concern is, if the benzos aren't working alone, could or have you tried a good sleeping antidepressant? If you still have problems, you can add a low dose of an atypical antipsychotic, but to avoid further depression, I would suggest taking an antidepressant with the combo. Low dose Remeron may be good...combined with an atypical antipsychotic *if* the Remeron doesn't do it alone. Just a note...that you may feel quite cruddy for a few weeks until your system adjusts, but stick with the meds, and you will adapt. And man, what a GREAT feeling it is once you get some balance. You could also try a tricyclic a.d., but remember again it is going to take time. These meds will work *with* your benzos, but it really takes time to find that delicate balance.
Best wishes,
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2005, at 18:23:12
In reply to Re: Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen » rjlockhart98, posted by jay on June 2, 2005, at 17:22:03
I've always had to take a second dose of the benzo during the night when I woke up to get back to sleep. I'm staying up late now so when I wake up it's morning for most people. It helps psychologically. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jakeman on June 2, 2005, at 20:55:36
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
You experience sounds like mine. I tried Lunesta, it gave me about 5-6hrs sleep. But still woke with racing thoughts etc. I started taking Elavil with it, (small dose 25 to 50 mg). It seemed to help calm the mind a bit and be less jumpy. Now I get 7-8 hours sleep. Don't know how long this will last, but at least now I'm functional.
good luck, -J (ps I also take Wellbutrin and a variety of vitamins).
Posted by Maxime on June 2, 2005, at 21:56:33
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
Hi. Considering your problem with anxiety and your insomnia, have you ever had your cortisol levels checked? Maybe something is out of whack there? You might also want to try a sleep clinic. At least you are getting 6 hours of sleep. That's more than I get on a normal night!
Elavil will knock you out and it's very inexpensive and not addictive.
I hope you find something soon.
Maxime
> I cnat say how miserable my mind will get during hte day, i try to take naps, nothing! my brain wave pattern stays on a "plane" it doesnt slope down to sleep pattern waves.
>
> I try to focus very hard to get to sleep, i think im doing it! yes its almost here, but then .................. im still waiting. THen UGHHHHGHH, forget it!
>
> I am not having siezures, but i dont know why my pattern waves dont shut down. When something really hard hits in the day, i cant explain but i stay in emerency mode the rest of the day, the feeling of that adrenaline soaked in your abdomin is beyond reality. How do i get the hell rid of this!!
>
> my thoughts seem to lose their "connected" order, they go random, some familiar images from my memory, some RANDOM from no where. I dont know at the time, i think it is best to get on an moderte potency anti-psychotic for a while.
>
> Suicide comes not from just oh sorrow hopelessness for not doing anything, it feel relieving that it will be over, all this mental chaos that is megapanic mode will be over. I think this and i actually sigh in relief. But i dont have plans..... first of all i need to get SCANS. Giving up is treason.
>
> Restoril and Ativan i belive i have adapted to, i dont know. I have been having a problem with waking up at around 3:45 and i cannot go back to sleep. I got maybe 6 hour sleep, which is at least some rest. I hope i dont have fatal insomnia. I stay up for the rest of the time, trying to occupy myself.
>
> I know barbiturates do not have good names, but i may ask about phenobarbital during the night because of its long duration 10-12 hours. this hopefully should keep me asleep all night, until 7:00am which is when i get dressed. Phenobarbital i dont belive has "pronounced" tolerance problems, and less addictive of all the barbiturate class, i 'belive'. Does anyone with some knowing, will tell me if this may help?
>
> Please, i have got to go, i AM in a rush mode right now, i am going to my pdoc tommorow. I have informed him and discussed this long time but its getting miserable.
>
> Please tell me something.
>
> take care
>
> matt
>
>
Posted by temoigneur on June 4, 2005, at 14:31:39
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
Posted by temoigneur on June 4, 2005, at 14:34:51
In reply to Insomnia Misery leading to a mental crisis emergen, posted by rjlockhart98 on June 2, 2005, at 15:23:45
Hi I don't want to give false hope, but I had terrible insomnia, there were circuits that weren't shutting off. I was on 3 x 7.5 mg tabs of immovane = ~6-9 mg of lunesta, (same molecule). I found something, (legal and healthy) that seems to allow me to sleep perfectly in conjunction /w the medicine. I can’t talk about alternative treatments here, but please do email me at bentley79 at hotmail I'm still having problems with the other meds, but I sleep wonderfuly. If it's a coincidience it's an interesting correlation, because I've tried everything.
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