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Posted by lara53 on April 2, 2005, at 21:39:48
i have alot of motivation which i love;last fri,sat,sun. worked at redoing house= 12hr dys-worked 4-12 hr.dys[at work] on 4 hrs sleep,and back to house stuff friday gung ho.did finally sleep 6 hrs friday night and 5 last night. been working all day at home and just got back from shopping. feel ok always anxiety-but when i stop like now;i am in tears and realize i am so depressed still; last night bad- almost cut,i thought since i finally got motivated since lamictal that i was doing good-this is the worst week for feeling depressed been on 100mg for [dont know] 10 dys? sorry this might be confusing;don't feel comfortable here yet but have no one else except my son who will listen, husband doesn't and daugt. not talking to me.sorry
Posted by Maxime on April 2, 2005, at 22:44:48
In reply to anyone that will listen?, posted by lara53 on April 2, 2005, at 21:39:48
I'll listen. :)
What other meds are you on other than the Lamictal? Your post read like a manic outburst! You have been doing a lot on not a lot of sleep.
Can you tell us more?
Maxime
> i have alot of motivation which i love;last fri,sat,sun. worked at redoing house= 12hr dys-worked 4-12 hr.dys[at work] on 4 hrs sleep,and back to house stuff friday gung ho.did finally sleep 6 hrs friday night and 5 last night. been working all day at home and just got back from shopping. feel ok always anxiety-but when i stop like now;i am in tears and realize i am so depressed still; last night bad- almost cut,i thought since i finally got motivated since lamictal that i was doing good-this is the worst week for feeling depressed been on 100mg for [dont know] 10 dys? sorry this might be confusing;don't feel comfortable here yet but have no one else except my son who will listen, husband doesn't and daugt. not talking to me.sorry
Posted by banga on April 2, 2005, at 23:58:44
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by Maxime on April 2, 2005, at 22:44:48
Hello,
I am glad you posted. Sorry that things are distressing right now! But hang around here, look through posts about Lamictal.
Do you know what diagnosis the doctor gave you?
What else have you noticed in your feelings? Is the cutting happen frequently?Lamictal seems like a strange drug. For many it is very helpful. But some need to play around a bit to get the dosage right....For some it works for a while at one dose, but then it loses the efffect and they have to increase; then works at the new dose for a bit, but again the effect wears off...but from what i hear people can eventually find the right dose.
Some people have noted here recently that they actually have an opposite reaction--reporting that Lamictal actually increased their anxiety.
Maybe try to keep a simple record of how much you are taking each day, and rate your mood each day...Record anxiety , on a scale from one to ten each day; and also depression from one to ten.
I am sorry your family is not supportive enough right now.
B.
Posted by jay on April 3, 2005, at 4:09:18
In reply to anyone that will listen?, posted by lara53 on April 2, 2005, at 21:39:48
> i have alot of motivation which i love;last fri,sat,sun. worked at redoing house= 12hr dys-worked 4-12 hr.dys[at work] on 4 hrs sleep,and back to house stuff friday gung ho.did finally sleep 6 hrs friday night and 5 last night. been working all day at home and just got back from shopping. feel ok always anxiety-but when i stop like now;i am in tears and realize i am so depressed still; last night bad- almost cut,i thought since i finally got motivated since lamictal that i was doing good-this is the worst week for feeling depressed been on 100mg for [dont know] 10 dys? sorry this might be confusing;don't feel comfortable here yet but have no one else except my son who will listen, husband doesn't and daugt. not talking to me.sorry
>
>Wowwwowww..slow down...really. You are really hurting. Lamictal has an activating profile, and may not be the best for anxious depressives. You must go back to your doctor asap and go over your symptoms and what med(s) may help them best. I have read many people become almost manic on Lamictal, so you are not alone. Please get to your doctor or any care asap.
Best,
Jay
Posted by lara53 on April 3, 2005, at 5:20:56
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by Maxime on April 2, 2005, at 22:44:48
maxine,
just the lamictal; I hope you're alright;I will post more later;up and can't sit still,going to try to finish this house before work tomorrow;thank you for responding feeling soooo alone.
Posted by Maxime on April 3, 2005, at 13:18:38
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by lara53 on April 3, 2005, at 5:20:56
Hi Lara - you really do seem hypomanic. Which the lamictal is suppose to prevent but as I am learning nothing works the say it is suppose to!
Take care of yourself. I am worried about how you are going to feel when you come down.
BTW, since you have so much energy can you come to my place and clean my room. It's a disaster and I haven't been able to clean it because it's such a mess that it scares me.
Maxime
> maxine,
>
> just the lamictal; I hope you're alright;I will post more later;up and can't sit still,going to try to finish this house before work tomorrow;thank you for responding feeling soooo alone.
Posted by Minnie-Haha on April 3, 2005, at 14:14:44
In reply to anyone that will listen?, posted by lara53 on April 2, 2005, at 21:39:48
I am Bipolar Type II and when I was on Lamictal (as monotherapy) I did get a fairly good anti-depressant effect on it, but I also felt I was becoming a little bit "activated" (agitated) on it... right about the time I developed a rash and had to get off it anyway. You might need to try a different mood stabilizer, like lithium, Depakote, or my favorite, Trileptal, and then add an AD. Unfortunately, these MSs aren't so good treating depression alone, but they shouldn't make you manic/agitated either!
Hang in there!
Posted by Phillipa on April 3, 2005, at 17:03:32
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 3, 2005, at 14:14:44
Yes you do sound manic. I'm so sorry that your family will not support you, especially your husband. Did something happen to cause them not to support you? Do you think your activity could be an attempt to run away from your feelings. Yes, you need to see your pdoc. It doesn't sound like your current tx is working. Try to relax, I'm sure your house is immaculate. I know that's easier said than done. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 3:24:36
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by banga on April 2, 2005, at 23:58:44
Thanks for responding,my diagnosis_?_ pdoc said "Im not saying you are BP but have cycling depression" Diagnosed 10 yrs ago with major depression, hospital x2 that year. Different doc. I was on numerous "cocktails". Quit taking meds the next year. About once a year primary would give me AD's due to my complaining about depression;celexa,effexor,prozac,zoloft,lexapro. Only took each one 4-8 months;didn't help and sometimes felt worse. In July after c/o again he said he would refer me to a "conservative"pdoc {because I complained about the "crazy" one I had before.{being on so meds at once} Now I realise they helped. This new pdoc is his friend. After a 40 minute consult,my subsequent appoints.are for 15 minute med check only. Had remeron,zyprexa,cymbata and latest lamictal since middle of Feb. All separtely. Has the least side effects but this not sleeping is nuts. Worked yesterday 6:30 till 7p,stayed up till 11 so I would sleep,here I am wide awake at 2:30. Still depressed. My next appoint. not for 2 weeks.When he put me on 100 he didnt tell me to increase or give me enough to do so.
Your suggestion of charting is a good one,never thought about it. I think I will remember but don't. As far as cutting I was appalled I even considered it again,been 10 years I have to look at these ugly scars! I think I will have to change meds;think I need new doc. who will give me a combination, one who knows more? Thanks again, sorry for the rambling,do feel better than over the weekend.
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 3:28:05
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen? » lara53, posted by jay on April 3, 2005, at 4:09:18
Just wanted to say thanks for posting back to me.
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 3:38:12
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen? » lara53, posted by Maxime on April 3, 2005, at 13:18:38
If I could,I would gladly come clean! I read your newer posts today,had no idea your health care system is like that.I don't know how to help,am learning from this board though. But my heart truly breaks from all your troubles. You have alot of people who truly care about you here. In all your despair,you help us also; I know you're a good person. I wish I could do more. Thank you for your kindness.
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 3:47:53
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 3, 2005, at 14:14:44
I have come to the conclusion I need a new doc!Would you mind telling me about your meds? Yes lamictal is to activating,maybe time will make it better? I am just so tired of trying new meds, as I'm sure you know. My doc. doesn't seem to want to combine anything. Am going to call today to try to find a new one.
Thanx for responding,you all made me feel better.
Posted by banga on April 5, 2005, at 9:35:29
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen? » banga, posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 3:24:36
Hi Lara,
It is great that you posted, I am sure you will get a bit of answewrs/help here. I am very glad you feel a bit better.
I do wonder a bit about your symptoms...it does feel like more of a mixed bipolar episode, or what some term "dysphoric mania".when you feel agitated and sleepless, what else ig going on? What are your thoughts, do they feel like your mind is working overtime? Have other people commented about this, what do they notice?
Having no response at all to the ADs is a little unusual for depressive symptoms...I was extremely reluctant to take several meds at once in the beginning...then I bagan to think, perhaps a little bit of several things is better than a ton of one--perhaps in the long run more balanced biocheically. I say this of course in my opinion, it is not necessarily substantiated.
100mg Lamictal really is not a lot.
Maybe write a separate post in a new topic heading here asking about people's Lamictral doses, and a rehash of what helped is you have not alread done so--so people notice the post more. As I said, I am taking 200mg, in combination with quite a few other meds.
**Do you remember what was in that original cocktail that had helped?
**When you were on Zyprexa, did you sleep better?
**Is the lack of sleep problem only recent--when did it seem to start in terms of when you took LAmictal?But if it seems to be the culprit then you may want to swithc to something else. Has it helped at all?
See you around the board!
Posted by CK1 on April 5, 2005, at 14:50:00
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen? » lara53, posted by banga on April 5, 2005, at 9:35:29
Lara,
I've been on Lamictal for a month (only 50mg bc can't seem to get higher). Every time I up the dose, my anxiety becomes intolerable. It also makes me very agitated, not sleeping, etc.
I would try another more "calming" mood stabilizer such as Lithium, Depakote, etc.
I know how it feels to feel bad! It's torture until you can get on the right meds.
Keep on trying!
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 16:04:53
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by Phillipa on April 3, 2005, at 17:03:32
My husband and I used to be really close;I didn't even get a haircut without him tagging along. He's had to work such long hours;leaves at 5 gets home around 8-9; depending on how much overtime. Alot of times not home till 10-12. This has been going on for about 5 yrs. In the meantime have had financial problems, every thing seemed to happen to house and cars plus some foolish things we did.Also I gave too much money to kids {you know how moms are] After they left home they became more needy! Anyway alot of it is my fault I don't handle stress well and would rather not deal with it and be alone.Another thing is last time I had a really bad time with cutting and hosp. he told me few yrs. later he couldn't deal with it again,so I think he's worried and ignoring it? I haven't been this bad in long time, think I was good at dealing with it, if I must say so myself!BTW just wanted to let you know,you are so kind to others. And I am extremely jealous of your surgery!Hope you are doing well.
Posted by lara53 on April 5, 2005, at 22:18:23
In reply to Re: anyone that will listen?, posted by CK1 on April 5, 2005, at 14:50:00
CK1
I wrote this afternoon but don't see it now;I don't want you to think I don't appreciate it. Can't find it on the board. I have to get up at 4 so I'll post tomorrow. thanx.
Lara
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