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Posted by melspinyards on March 31, 2005, at 21:38:33
Hello, everyone, hugs, i am new to this board. I found it through google.com about a medication question.
I have been with my bf, Tony, we have been together for about 1 year 2 months. It seems i dont know where we are going, i am stuck with anxiety and paranoia with him. He was a nice funny person, that i just loved. He drank occationally at first, it didnt bother me, he was just so hilarious!. 2-(1/2) months ago his personality became alot more passive and much more irrtible when i would just ask a simple question what is wrong?
He storms out for no apparent reason, i do not know where he goes out at night, im with friends, i mean were basically seperated for now. Reasons Unknown. If your seeing someone else, i would know trust me.
I found many prescriptions which i was unaware of besides Zoloft, in his bedroom which are the following:
Zyprexa 5mg
Triazolam .25mg
Alprazolam .5mg (2 X daily), i am aware of this. Many of my friends abuse this. XANAX, i do not approve of this medication at all.
Zoloft 100mg (1 X daily)
Dexmethylphenidate 30mg (2 X daily)
I would apprieciate any advice if this can be effecting his behavior.I do not know even if now im another number of his, he tells me to get out when i am trying to ask what is going on?
Many times at night he will go into absolute delusional rages, out of control, furniture is smashed, i have to leave quickly for my own sake.This is sinking, i dont know what to do.
I am scared to call his doctor, and report what is happening.
I dont want this continue, he was a normal complely normal, funny guy that worked at chilies. What did i not know?
I would much apprieciate any guidance. Thank you
-Melody-
P.S: thank you for having a site like this.
Posted by FredPotter on March 31, 2005, at 22:26:33
In reply to A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by melspinyards on March 31, 2005, at 21:38:33
Melody I'm sorry to hear about this. I don't know what's going on with him. I don't think there's any reason to blame Xanax though. 0.5 mg twice a day is nothing. Perhaps the drugs aren't the cause of any of the behaviour. I hope you sort it out. Keep safe
Fred
Posted by HappyGirl on April 1, 2005, at 0:04:51
In reply to A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by melspinyards on March 31, 2005, at 21:38:33
Hi:
>>> Many times at night he will go into absolute delusional rages, out of control, furniture is smashed, i have to leave quickly for my own sake. <<<<--- Sounds like your bf has Bipolar Disorder(manic depression). There are several different types of Bipolar, then it's hard to say which type of Bipolar your bf has. However, one thing I can say is that he has DEFINITEFLY 'Dysphoric mania' which has 'intense' anger/rage as you described above.
Although you're a lot of reminiscece in his 'nice' and 'funny' character before this happened, his 'current' violent behaviour is because of his mental illness, Bipolar Disorder. Judging by his med. combo., he might have also 'sleep' problem that might cause MORE 'rage/anger.' Also, he seems to like a 'night life,' that also aggrevates his condition, because of a lack of sleep and some 'stress.'
I truly understand your great fear/concern over his behaviour/violece, ... however he needs 'support,' 'understanding' and along with 'uncoditional love' from you.
In my suggestion, ... if you know his psychiatrist/doctor, try to inform/explan about his current mental-state. Because, his med. combo. might NOT be working on him. He may need some med. adjustment or different class of meds., particularly Zoloft which often make 'manic'/rage get worse in some of Bper's. Try to talk your bf when he is in a good mood. I'm pretty ascertain he loves you more than anything else in the world. Just his Bipolar(seems to me,...) causes a lot of 'havoc' in the relationship.
H.G.
Posted by lunesta on April 1, 2005, at 7:39:55
In reply to A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by melspinyards on March 31, 2005, at 21:38:33
OUCH!
2 possibilities :
he either has some major drug problems
OR
because of the zyprexa, he could have schizophrenia or a related disorder, the methlphenidate is sustained released ritalin which is for ADHD OR ADD but can be abused...the zoloft is for depression or social anxiety..... and all those benzos(the rest) are either for sleep or anxiety or abuse.
with alcohol some of these drugs are crazy.
It sounds like the problem is on his end. Sorry to hear this. I would confront but be careful he could be insane.
Posted by BP2TreadingWater on April 1, 2005, at 10:56:52
In reply to A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by melspinyards on March 31, 2005, at 21:38:33
> Hello, everyone, hugs, i am new to this board. I found it through google.com about a medication question.
>
> I have been with my bf, Tony, we have been together for about 1 year 2 months. It seems i dont know where we are going, i am stuck with anxiety and paranoia with him. He was a nice funny person, that i just loved. He drank occationally at first, it didnt bother me, he was just so hilarious!. 2-(1/2) months ago his personality became alot more passive and much more irrtible when i would just ask a simple question what is wrong?
>
> He storms out for no apparent reason, i do not know where he goes out at night, im with friends, i mean were basically seperated for now. Reasons Unknown. If your seeing someone else, i would know trust me.
>
> I found many prescriptions which i was unaware of besides Zoloft, in his bedroom which are the following:
>
> Zyprexa 5mg
>
> Triazolam .25mg
>
> Alprazolam .5mg (2 X daily), i am aware of this. Many of my friends abuse this. XANAX, i do not approve of this medication at all.
>
> Zoloft 100mg (1 X daily)
>
> Dexmethylphenidate 30mg (2 X daily)
>
>
> I would apprieciate any advice if this can be effecting his behavior.
>
> I do not know even if now im another number of his, he tells me to get out when i am trying to ask what is going on?
> Many times at night he will go into absolute delusional rages, out of control, furniture is smashed, i have to leave quickly for my own sake.
>
> This is sinking, i dont know what to do.
>
> I am scared to call his doctor, and report what is happening.
>
> I dont want this continue, he was a normal complely normal, funny guy that worked at chilies. What did i not know?
>
> I would much apprieciate any guidance. Thank you
>
> -Melody-
>
> P.S: thank you for having a site like this.Melody,
Sounds like Tony is a Bipolar-I. I know you feel concerned for him and that you wish your relationship could go back to normal. I don't want to browbeat you, but I think you'll need to question yourself if you've idealized Tony. This means that you've made an image of Tony in your mind, a very positive image, that you need to hold on to emotionally even if it is not validated by reality.
The bottom line here is this: Tony may be a nice guy with a nasty problem -- but you CAN'T dismiss the problem. You CAN'T tear Tony down the middle, take the good half, and leave the bad half behind. Tony is both the funny boyfriend and the irritable manic. Meanwhile, you have to decide not to put up with any abuse. You do NOT have to suffer on his account. It's not your fault that Tony isn't managing his bipolar well (and it's not your fault that his doctor is a f***-up for not catching it). All I can say is that you need to get clear of Tony before you get hurt. Give it some thought, think about how you will approach him (maybe after you leave, as opposed to before, on account of his rage). You can relate helpfully from a distance, but you don't need to a victim on his account.
How do I know all this? I'm a bipolar-II who, instead of having rages, missed being properly diagnosed for many years. I basically slouched my way through a relationship to the point where the other person couldn't take it anymore. It isn't the same as your case, and I was very hurt by him leaving me. But after a few months, I came to realize that he was essentially a good person -- as am I -- and my problems and his perception of my problems made things impossible and caused us to be hurtful to one another.
Don't fall into this trap. Save yourself!
Good luck,
BP2TreadingWater
Posted by Justy on April 1, 2005, at 11:52:17
In reply to Re: A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by BP2TreadingWater on April 1, 2005, at 10:56:52
My girlfriend was in a relationship with a man with BP1. He could charm the birds out of the trees but when he was manic he smashed her furniture and one time he smashed every window out of her car. She really loves him but the last time he went balistic he grabbed her (he had never done that before). She finally had to take a protection order against him as his violence was now being directed at her. He was not med compliant.
First and foremost you MUST protect yourself.
It's hard when you love someone as much as you love him but you cannot fall into the cycle of domestic violence, especially in the "honeymoon phase" when he will be very apologetic and sorry.
I can't tell you how much she tried to help him and he is such an intelligent person, but he is the one who has to work very hard with a doctor to stabilize himself.
I know how much BP's need the support of their loved ones, but not at the cost of escalating violence.
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2005, at 13:11:09
In reply to Re: A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by Justy on April 1, 2005, at 11:52:17
It's very hard to look at things objectively when you are emotionally involved with someone. Especially if you love him. I get the impession that you are both young. I would never stay with a man who is abusive. I know your intellectual side is telling you this but the emotions? He also sounds like he has a problem with alchohol. I say this as I was married to one, and always manage to pick the same kind of men. Lucky for me my husband now, and I gave up alchol 8 years ago, and even though life is not as much "fun" now as it was then it's for the best. I've seen him especially "grow" since quitting. I don't think you can speak with his pdoc without his permission what with all the privacy laws. You of course, could call and just relay the person's name and what is going on and that you are concerned. Maybe the doctor will get the message and act on it accordingly. Most of all as the others have said your safety is number one even if it "hurts" to ge alone. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by sukarno on April 11, 2005, at 23:21:49
In reply to Re: A violent relationship... are medications causing?, posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2005, at 13:11:09
He needs to see another psychiatrist or be thoroughly reevaluated by his existing one.
Triazolam is Halcion, which has been linked to violent behaviour in some people. Alprazolam is excellent for anxiety and panic attacks, but can provoke hypomania and mania in some patients.
Zoloft can also aggravate mania, as can the stimulant (Ritalin? I've heard of methylphenidate, but not dexmethylphenidate).
I think an increase in the Zyprexa and/or a reduction in Zoloft would be in order.
He really needs to see his psychiatrist and I would move somewhere where he can't find you until he can get things sorted out with his doc.
Next time he might not be smashing furniture and might harm you.
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