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Posted by Michael Bell on January 17, 2005, at 18:51:12
The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing. But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.
Posted by smith562 on January 17, 2005, at 19:32:37
In reply to To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by Michael Bell on January 17, 2005, at 18:51:12
I found the safest and easiest remedy was simply coffee. One or two cups about 3 o'clock help with the afternoon sedation. Dr. Quitken told me I could try Dexedrine, but that left me in a hyperdopamanergic state where I felt "high" and almost in a stupor.
> The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing. But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
>
> So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.
Posted by johnnystats on January 18, 2005, at 6:29:36
In reply to Re: To all NARDIL users (past and present) » Michael Bell, posted by smith562 on January 17, 2005, at 19:32:37
> I found the safest and easiest remedy was simply coffee. One or two cups about 3 o'clock help with the afternoon sedation. Dr. Quitken told me I could try Dexedrine, but that left me in a hyperdopamanergic state where I felt "high" and almost in a stupor.
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> > The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing. But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
> >
> > So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.
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> Most of the medicaions available cause sedation, and i use the coffee solution too with nardil. I drink in moderation though...too much and it messes with the effects of the medicine.
Posted by djmmm on January 18, 2005, at 10:15:03
In reply to To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by Michael Bell on January 17, 2005, at 18:51:12
> The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing. But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
>
> So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.The daytime drowsiness does go away...for the most part. I would suggest you carefully monitor your blood sugar. This seemed to help me tremendously..and it prevented the weight gain associated with this med.
Posted by KaraS on January 18, 2005, at 16:58:20
In reply to Re: To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by djmmm on January 18, 2005, at 10:15:03
> > The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing. But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
> >
> > So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.
>
> The daytime drowsiness does go away...for the most part. I would suggest you carefully monitor your blood sugar. This seemed to help me tremendously..and it prevented the weight gain associated with this med.
>
>Would you mind elaborating on what you did to prevent weight gain on Nardil?
Posted by johnnystats on January 18, 2005, at 18:09:37
In reply to Re: To all NARDIL users (past and present) » djmmm, posted by KaraS on January 18, 2005, at 16:58:20
You can't get rid of this side effect. You can either decrease the dosage or go off of the med entirely.You can try with stimulants, but most likely you'll just end up with more anxiety. I've found that the only safe way to get rid of sleepiness is with caffeine...either in pill form or from coffee.
Sleep tight,
Johnnystats
Posted by tsirch on January 19, 2005, at 13:35:40
In reply to Re: To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by johnnystats on January 18, 2005, at 18:09:37
my daytime sleepiness did go away after a month, but untill it did, I drank some coffee.
Posted by Michael Bell on January 19, 2005, at 21:04:29
In reply to Re: To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by tsirch on January 19, 2005, at 13:35:40
Posted by smith562 on January 19, 2005, at 21:27:08
In reply to Re: So coffee is not a hypertension risk at all? (nm), posted by Michael Bell on January 19, 2005, at 21:04:29
Coffee/Caffiene is a reported risk. I only had one hypertensive crisis after eatting celery with blue cheese dip at a wedding. Otherwise I was lucky. I work at a hospital, so I knew if I felt symptoms, could get my blood pressure checked at anytime and get a dose of procardia STAT.
Smith
PS Glad to hear your feeling better
Posted by KaraS on January 19, 2005, at 23:31:53
In reply to Re: So coffee is not a hypertension risk at all? » Michael Bell, posted by smith562 on January 19, 2005, at 21:27:08
Someone in the Yahoo MAOI group reported that his sister had a horrible hypertensive crisis from caffeine. She was just starting out on Parnate though and had two cups of coffee.
Posted by ace on January 20, 2005, at 19:16:27
In reply to To all NARDIL users (past and present), posted by Michael Bell on January 17, 2005, at 18:51:12
> The Nardil, which I started about 2 weeks ago, is starting to kick in and do its amazing thing.
No suprise there!!! You wait to the 6 week mark! You will feel like Superman!!
But the daytime drowsiness is annoying and from what I've heard doesn't go away over time.
I disagree. I had EXTREME drowsiness when going up to 90mg...it did go away within 3/4 weeks...I believe that it will subside.
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> So my question is: to all who've used Nardil, what is the safest, most effective adjunctive med for getting rid of the daytime sleepines? Thanks.Nothing but patience I think. Time will heal the s/effect in my opinion. Please be patient.
Ace -- Nardil freak!
Posted by Willyee on January 21, 2005, at 0:54:02
In reply to Re: So coffee is not a hypertension risk at all? » Michael Bell, posted by smith562 on January 19, 2005, at 21:27:08
> Coffee/Caffiene is a reported risk. I only had one hypertensive crisis after eatting celery with blue cheese dip at a wedding. Otherwise I was lucky. I work at a hospital, so I knew if I felt symptoms, could get my blood pressure checked at anytime and get a dose of procardia STAT.
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> Smith
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> PS Glad to hear your feeling better
Not advocating it,but i have used caffiene pills plenty of times to augment parnate,as mentioned at times parnate can cause fatigue,the caffiene pills usualy worked extremly well,in fact it seems sedative type drugs came close to any hypertensive crisis than caffiene,and i did read simtulants are used carefully when hypertensive happens,dont they actualy use adrenaline,or am i all mixed up,either way caffiine for me has a positve effect on parnate.One thing i noticed,is i have to be careful what sedatives i take,benzos,betablockers,ghb are great with parnate to allieave anxiety,but there were some sedatives,nuerontion,thorazine,clonidine,that did not sink well with parnate,and simply made me high,a yapping non stop talking machine,a ugly high noticable to others and carries a bad chrash.
The others though once again,benzos,gabitril,ghb,bete blockers (nice) work fine when parnate alone aint hitting anxiety,in helps put togther a normal feeling,which for me is a high,when i have no anxiety,and can flirt with woman at work,approach people with confidence,brother thats as high as i wanna go!
psssst ,pssst kava in high doses also worked pretty well,dont tell dr bob cause its a herb,hell redirect me.Im joking!
Posted by tsirch on January 23, 2005, at 1:51:46
In reply to Re: So coffee is not a hypertension risk at all?, posted by Willyee on January 21, 2005, at 0:54:02
Nardil was the best, most effective anti dep. I have ever expreienced. Not so good, It only remained effective 10yrs, with increasing doses each year. Coffee may be a risk for some on nardil, for me, I learned it was a harmless kicker. It increased the benifit slightly. I will not recomend coffee, or say not to use it.
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