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Posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
Right now the only thing keeping me afloat is klonopin. Is see my Dr Tuesday. I'm in a irritable depression full of anxiety . I feel like I have a big empty hole in me and want to eat and eat. I feel flat . I know I'm depressed.
I just tried a trial of topomax didn't agree with me at all. I'm Bipolar II and SSRI's just make me worse. I'm 100 pounds overweight and feel like I could care less if I die. I'm 42 6ft1 female and the weight is taking it's toll .. my knees. back, feet swelling. I thought of asking about effexor but I'm scared about weight gain. I really am at my wits end I can't seem to find the will to just get better. anyone know of anyting to try? I don't know how much I can take I pray every night for God to take me.thanks,
Rainee
Posted by SLS on April 11, 2004, at 20:25:39
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
> I pray every night for God to take me.
I know that feeling only too well.
Don't give up just yet.
Why don't you let us know how your doctor visit goes? Maybe we can help you find some direction in your treatment plan.
I can guarantee you that you will get through this difficult period. Take things one step at a time. Do what you need to in order to survive in the meantime. That includes reaching out to people and not isolating. It's good that you posted here. The odds are in your favor that you can be successfully treated with the options that are currently available. Unfortunately, much of what comes between now and then is trial-and-error. I know how excruciating the wait can be. However, your investment of time and energy will eventually pay off. Believe it. Life is worth the wait. I'll say a prayer for you.
- Scott
Posted by Sooshi on April 11, 2004, at 21:27:28
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
Hi rainee,
I know how you feel, and hope you get to feeling better soon...all easier said than done, right?
I too had a tough time with Topomax, and switched to Zonegran and am having great success with it...maybe you could ask your pdoc about it? It's supposed to be very similar to Topomax without all the hairy side effects, and so far so good. I'm still experiencing the feelings of fullness soon after eating, just like I did on Topa, so I'm still not gaining any weight, and have even lost a few more pounds since starting Zonegran.
I also take Effexor Xr, 300mgs for the past 4 1/2 years...it's been the only AD that hasn't pooped out on me or had horrendous side effects. It hasn't caused me any weight gain.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Good luck to you,
Sooshi
Posted by fayeroe on April 11, 2004, at 21:39:20
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
Hang in there! It may take awhile to get things worked out but stay around here and we'll be as supportive as possible. We've all be on different meds, hunting for the elusive magic one, and we understand how frustrating it can be. Best, Pat
Posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 13:28:12
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
I don't care if you don't like veggis and lean protien. How much you hate the gym. Get to work right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:34:49
In reply to DIET AND EXERCISE RIGHT NOW!!!!, posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 13:28:12
Posted by KathrynLex on April 12, 2004, at 13:34:56
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
Hi Rainee,
Have you tried Wellbutrin? It's an antidepressant, but not an SSRI. It is in a class of meds all by itself. I'm on 150 mgs and have found it to be very helpful for depression.
K.
Posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:37:13
In reply to Go to hell I will never come here again., posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:34:49
Sebestian your cruel and have no understanding. the rest thank you for your help.
Posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:41:24
In reply to DIET AND EXERCISE RIGHT NOW!!!!, posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 13:28:12
> I don't care if you don't like veggis and lean protien. How much you hate the gym. Get to work right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said I didn't like veggies and protien or the gym. don't put words in my mouth.. thanks for making me feel worse.
Posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:43:14
In reply to further more Jerk., posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:41:24
thank you
Posted by man_oh_man1977 on April 12, 2004, at 14:50:06
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
Hey Rainee!
Don't leave just yet! There are many people here who are more than willing to listen and empathize w/ your predicament. Depression is so physically draining sometime the idea of even doing sit-ups is agonizing. I don't mean to speak for the rest of the board, but we care! Good luck w/ your new meds - let us know what your on.
Take care, and don't take this person's critiscm to personally!
Man-oh-man
Posted by rainyday on April 12, 2004, at 15:18:49
In reply to Re: really need some support, please » rainee, posted by man_oh_man1977 on April 12, 2004, at 14:50:06
Ditto to man-o-man. I am finding Wellbutrin to be working well for me. Stick with it and keep posting!
BTW I find that exercise is the absolute hardest thing to do. I have posted many times about it being impossible to get myself motivated when I feel so nad to begin with: crawling under a rock would be the only exercise I could fathom. It gets better - very slowly (for me), but it does.
Posted by Sad Panda on April 12, 2004, at 15:25:02
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
> Right now the only thing keeping me afloat is klonopin. Is see my Dr Tuesday. I'm in a irritable depression full of anxiety . I feel like I have a big empty hole in me and want to eat and eat. I feel flat . I know I'm depressed.
> I just tried a trial of topomax didn't agree with me at all. I'm Bipolar II and SSRI's just make me worse. I'm 100 pounds overweight and feel like I could care less if I die. I'm 42 6ft1 female and the weight is taking it's toll .. my knees. back, feet swelling. I thought of asking about effexor but I'm scared about weight gain. I really am at my wits end I can't seem to find the will to just get better. anyone know of anyting to try? I don't know how much I can take I pray every night for God to take me.
>
> thanks,
> Rainee
>Hi Rainee,
Hang in there!! With one glaring exception, the rest of us care how you feel & wish you to stay! :)
I know exactly how you feel, mornings were always bad for me. The realisation that I didn't die in my sleep & have to suffer another day was always the pits. I'm a 36yo male that is the same height as you & I have only got about 200 pounds to loose. Right now I don't care, but it's something I'll have to work on as I get happier. I take Voltaren for my buckling knees & if I don't walk enough, I get fluid builing up on my feet too. I wish I had the brain power to exercise some more, but it's in short supply.
Have you tried the TCA's? Some Amitriptyline might be good for your mood short term while you get on top of your mood stabilizer suitation. Ami would also give you some high quality sleep which you can never get too much of.
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 17:22:49
In reply to Re: really need some support, please » rainee, posted by Sad Panda on April 12, 2004, at 15:25:02
any one wishing to email I would greatly appreciate it I need the support and friendship so badly.. my email is rainwaters@cableone.net.
thanks for all the understanding the pain lessened for the moment because of you all.. thanks so much.Rainee
Posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 22:47:40
In reply to Go to hell I will never come here again., posted by rainee on April 12, 2004, at 13:34:49
Sorry.... Thats what my doctor said to me. It worked to. I wasn't trying to offend you.
Posted by Sad Panda on April 12, 2004, at 23:45:19
In reply to Re: Go to hell I will never come here again., posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 22:47:40
> Sorry.... Thats what my doctor said to me. It worked to. I wasn't trying to offend you.
>My doc says that to me all the time & it's very annoying, as you can tell that he doesn't know what it's like to have atypical depression. I barely have the mental energy to breathe some days, I do feel good while I am walking & after I have walked, but it so hard to take that first step. The more I try to do something, the more it becomes a feeling of inner turmoil & agitation rather than an actual physical movement. When I do actually do something, it's either on an impulse or I am in a truely good mood.
What ailment do you suffer from Sebastian?
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by rainee on April 13, 2004, at 5:15:58
In reply to Re: Go to hell I will never come here again., posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2004, at 22:47:40
> Sorry.... Thats what my doctor said to me. It worked to. I wasn't trying to offend you.
Thanks for the apology you just hit a raw nerve.
sorry for lashing out. I'm very angry these days.Rainee
Posted by Sebastian on April 13, 2004, at 11:57:27
In reply to Re: Go to hell I will never come here again. » Sebastian, posted by Sad Panda on April 12, 2004, at 23:45:19
my ailment is scitzo-affective disorder. I actualy had a full fight with my doctor befor I finaly took them serious and dieted real hard no slips and lost 30 lbs in a month while I was on 10 mg zyprexa. I told the doctor: I don't like those foods, I can't do it, never works.
Posted by Sebastian on April 13, 2004, at 12:02:42
In reply to Re: Go to hell I will never come here again. » Sebastian, posted by rainee on April 13, 2004, at 5:15:58
I was only hoping to give you motivation. I felt real helpless for 4 years: dieting, exercizing, and not lossing weight. Not to mention my girlfreind telling me not to lose weight because I would look like a crack head.? It took having my doctor tell me she was no good.
Posted by Stryker88 on April 14, 2004, at 15:54:29
In reply to Re: Go to hell I will never come here again., posted by Sebastian on April 13, 2004, at 12:02:42
DROP AND GIVE ME 50
Posted by 1980Monroe on April 14, 2004, at 19:52:15
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
I take wellbutrin, its a stimulating anti-depressant which is maybe what you need.
Serotonin sometimes makes depression worse, can be sometimes sedating.
Dopmaine is the pleasure arousal chemical that makes you feel peppy and motivated.
Noradrenaline also gives you energy and alertness.
Wellbutrin works on dopamine and noradrenaline. So ask your doctor. Hope gets better
Posted by shadows721 on April 14, 2004, at 23:32:00
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
I am so sorry that you are going through a really rough time. I totally can relate to your depressive feelings. When I went into the hospital, I felt like I lost my mind. I had a hard time putting together thoughts. I couldn't hardly feed myself. I couldn't even have the concentration of dialing a phone. I too asked Jesus to just take me. I felt like I just couldn't function anymore. Then, I would switch into hellish rages. I couldn't even stand for someone to be talking or laughing around me.
I got put on additional meds. My lexapro and Buspar was increased. Neurontin and Serquel were added. I tried lamictal too. The Serquel really helps me sleep, which is so important. I rather sleep that not sleep for days at a time like I use too.
Rainee, please don't give up. We have to hold onto each other's strength to get through this hellish disease called depression. It really sounds like you need some medication additions and adjustments. The other posts are giving really good suggestions for new medication management. Just do you best at any given moment. Don't be hard on yourself. You are going through a really rough time here. Recognize anything you are able to do for yourself right now that is positive. It may be as simple as just getting dressed, eating a meal, or brushing your teeth. Just those basic things are milestones to handle with major depression. Look at what you are doing for yourself to keep yourself safe right now. Write it down if you can. Try and fight every negative thing that you notice you say about yourself. Just keep saying I am doing my best and that's all I can do.
Sometimes we can not communicate with words the level of pain we are in on the forum. Remember, you have many people who care about you right here. No one is wanting you to suffer my friend. We all care about you Rainee. We are all in this together. Throwing a rope to Rainee ----X-------X--------X
From the shadows
Posted by Sebastian on April 15, 2004, at 12:25:33
In reply to Re: rainee, check out wellbutrin - no weight gain, posted by 1980Monroe on April 14, 2004, at 19:52:15
I will add that wellbutrin is an apatite suppresant. And an energy pill.
Posted by Michael D on April 16, 2004, at 14:19:35
In reply to really need some support, please, posted by rainee on April 11, 2004, at 19:46:52
> and SSRI's just make me worse.
Do you feel overstimulated - wired on SSRIs? That's what I experienced.
You may have PTSD or ADD - I'm serious. Just a thought.
Michael D
Posted by alohashirt on April 29, 2004, at 23:53:26
In reply to Re: really need some support, please, posted by Michael D on April 16, 2004, at 14:19:35
Wellbutrin seems to give me motivation to execise.
And then the exercise gives me energy / focus at work.
Only 9 weeks so see how this progresses.
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