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Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect

Posted by jaby on March 22, 2004, at 15:11:28

I take about 2mg of Klonopin and have taken 1 at night and 1 at noon. This proved to be too much and I have found about 1 1/2mg works okay (I think). How are most people dosing their klonopin to avoid the dumb effect (I mean no memory). Would it be best to dose all at night?

 

Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect

Posted by KXo on March 22, 2004, at 23:22:58

In reply to Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect, posted by jaby on March 22, 2004, at 15:11:28

I have been taking 0,5mg two to three times a day. I have no side effect! You wrote: no memory. How is it??? I have never had it!
I would prefer to take all once a day as some people doo, but by now I don't want to change something that is working.
==KXo

> I take about 2mg of Klonopin and have taken 1 at night and 1 at noon. This proved to be too much and I have found about 1 1/2mg works okay (I think). How are most people dosing their klonopin to avoid the dumb effect (I mean no memory). Would it be best to dose all at night?

 

Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect » jaby

Posted by Viridis on March 23, 2004, at 3:48:07

In reply to Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect, posted by jaby on March 22, 2004, at 15:11:28

Have you been taking it for long? I found that those sorts of side effects disappeared after a couple of weeks, but at the beginning I divided my dose (just 1 mg/day total) first into 4X/day, then 2X/day. Then I just went to 1 mg all at once in the morning and don't notice anything at all (except much less anxiety!).

 

Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect

Posted by awatts on March 23, 2004, at 6:18:10

In reply to Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect » jaby, posted by Viridis on March 23, 2004, at 3:48:07

> Have you been taking it for long? I found that those sorts of side effects disappeared after a couple of weeks, but at the beginning I divided my dose (just 1 mg/day total) first into 4X/day, then 2X/day. Then I just went to 1 mg all at once in the morning and don't notice anything at all (except much less anxiety!).

About the same here. Slight tiredness gone in a few weeks. I dose 0.5mg at breakfast and lunch. 1.0mg at night. 2.0mg per day - total.

 

Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect

Posted by KXo on March 23, 2004, at 18:47:21

In reply to Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect » jaby, posted by Viridis on March 23, 2004, at 3:48:07

Tomorrow, I am going to try 1,5mg at once in the morning and see what happens.
==KXo

 

Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect » jaby

Posted by f l y on March 23, 2004, at 22:29:30

In reply to Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect, posted by jaby on March 22, 2004, at 15:11:28

i can't go over .5mg w/o experincing the "dumb effect" > memory loss and trouble finding the right words.

best to ya,

fly

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd

Posted by Pluto on March 24, 2004, at 22:02:10

In reply to Re: Klonopin dosing to avoid dumb effect » jaby, posted by f l y on March 23, 2004, at 22:29:30

Hi to all,

Can anybody explain this to me please. I was taking Rivotril/Klonopin (in U.S) for the past six years. Dosage was not much higher though not trivial. I took 3 mg sometimes but most of the times it was 1.5mg. Now I am off this drug for almost a month and surprisingly there is nothing I can notice. I was prepared to suffer all those horrible withdrawals but so far nothing means nothing. Here is how I did it.
First I cut that 0.5mg and stayed on 1 mg for five days.
Then another cut of 0.5mg and a stay of five days.
Lastly I quit it altogether when I was stabilized on 0.5mg. And that was exactly 28 days ago when I last took my 0.5mg.
Now I am on sulpiride 100 mg.

Can anybody explain this to me? Even after using it for years an quitting it almost cold turkey I have no withdrawals. Is there something wrong with me?
One more interesting thing. Rivotril worked in a unique way for me while I was on it. It acted as a stimulant in daytime and as a real sedative at night. If I took 0.5mg in the morning time, it gave me more energy and clarity on thinking. If I took the same dose at night, it made me sleep. Thus it proved quite heavenly.
Can any benzo experts exlain this to me. Or will there by any withdrawals soon, because it has only been a month since I am off it?

I think I will go back to the medication, because sulpiride is not proving to be that good for me. Besides my problems in thinking clearly and anxiety which led me to Rivotril first has come back. Means the original symptoms still persists. What should I do? go back to Rivotril/Klonopin or stay like this?
Please answer
PLS

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd

Posted by KXo on March 24, 2004, at 22:49:04

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd, posted by Pluto on March 24, 2004, at 22:02:10

Hi PLS!

I am not a benzo expert, but I want to say some things.

I think the reason for it acting like a stimulant in the daytime is because it is the time when I am anxious. Being anxious I can't think well. Taking it, regulates my thoughts so I can do things better.

If I take it when I am not anxious, I usually feel tired. That is what may be happening to you when you take it at night.

Another thought I have is that when I take it at night, I have the Clonazepam acumulated taken during all the day and when I take the night dose it would be the amount I need to feel tired (if I am not anxious at night). Adding to this that night is also the time of getting tired and sleepy.

Your questions interest me a lot. I want to see answers!

==KXo

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd » KXo

Posted by Pluto on March 25, 2004, at 9:59:11

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd, posted by KXo on March 24, 2004, at 22:49:04

Hi Kxo,

Thanks for your answer. But my basic question still remains. Why there were no withdrawal problems for me? I was actually prepared for some worst days and precautionarily stayed away from my office for a week anticipating something that is horrible. But even after a month and upto this moment, I am absolutely fine, though the original anxiety and thinking problems slowly begins to return. These are definitely not withdrawal symptoms because I started taking clonazepam six years ago for this purpose and that did the job well.
Thanks once again
PLS

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd

Posted by KXo on March 25, 2004, at 21:57:26

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd » KXo, posted by Pluto on March 25, 2004, at 9:59:11

I don't know, Pluto. I hope somebody comes with the answers.
If your anxiety is returning why did you stop taking it? Do you think you would be fine by now?
==KXo

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd

Posted by Damien on March 26, 2004, at 1:05:59

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd » KXo, posted by Pluto on March 25, 2004, at 9:59:11

Hi Pluto -

Although the half-life of clonazepam is fairly long for a benzodiazepine, it's all long gone from your body after 28 days. Based on my experience (with substance abuse), you'd have experienced a withdrawal syndrome within days. It would seem that you withdrew from Klonopin therapy the proper way - you slowly tapered the dosage down gradually, giving your body time to adjust to less and less of the medicine, then finally not having it present at all. According to a Certified Addictions Counseller associate of mine, benzo withdrawal can be as serious as alcohol withdrawal, especially is abused or taken at high dosages for long periods. You were on a modest dose and you withdrew properly. I'm certain you've no problems coming your way. Congratulations!
> Thanks for your answer. But my basic question still remains. Why there were no withdrawal problems for me? I was actually prepared for some worst days and precautionarily stayed away from my office for a week anticipating something that is horrible. But even after a month and upto this moment, I am absolutely fine, though the original anxiety and thinking problems slowly begins to return. These are definitely not withdrawal symptoms because I started taking clonazepam six years ago for this purpose and that did the job well.
> Thanks once again
> PLS

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd » KXo

Posted by Pluto on March 27, 2004, at 22:16:16

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd, posted by KXo on March 25, 2004, at 21:57:26

Hi Kxo and Damien,

Thanks for your answers. As KXo noted, I will be going back to Rivotril (Klonopin) soon if my anxiety becomes intolerable for me. So far I can live with the anxiety though it sometimes meddles up with my work because of poor concentration. Colleagues have begun to notice something unusual with me. The same sort of disorder that led me to Rivotril exactly six years ago but this time it is not severe. But I am waiting and if I can hold things together without a chemical, I will be proceeding this way. But I still have a valid prescription with me and I will never hesitate to fill it in case.
PLS

 

Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd » Damien

Posted by Pluto on March 27, 2004, at 22:25:42

In reply to Re: Klonopin Cold Turkey After Six years No Withd, posted by Damien on March 26, 2004, at 1:05:59

Dear Damien,

Thank you for your post. Do you think I was on modest of dose of klonopin? I was on 3mg initially which I could bring down to 2 mg after a month and since then I would take 2mg sometimes although most of the time it was 1.5mg(0.5mg three times daily). So it should be counted as 1.5mg to 2mg.
Again my tapering was not slow enough to educate my body. It took only 15 days to go off klonopin completely. Do you think it was sufficient?
Thanks
Percy Laham


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