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Posted by panic_attack on January 17, 2004, at 17:19:57
In reply to Re: Neurontin, posted by Karen_kay on January 17, 2004, at 8:31:35
I took Neurontin for awhile and felt NOTHING. No good, no bad. I was only on 100mg. But I felt like i popped an aspirin. Didn't notice any effect but I only took it for 2 weeks at a very low dose.
Posted by Simcha on January 17, 2004, at 20:24:40
In reply to Neurontin, posted by panic_attack on January 17, 2004, at 17:19:57
I take 600mg of Neurontin at night in order to releive symptoms of Bruxism and restless legs. It works well. I still have a hard time sleeping sometimes and I have to take more. My pdoc gave me an extra prescription for 90 doses at 100mg each so that I can take more when I'm having trouble sleeping or for anxiety throughout the day. I've taken as much as a gram at night and it's helped me.
Neurontin provides me with a background of elevated mood. It's effects are very subtle with mood, I've found. I don't feel groggy on this medication at all.
For me Neurontin is a good treatment for my anxiety issues. I have Major Depressive Disorder. My anxiety is a bit above baseline but not out of the park enough for being considered for Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Neurontin seems to help me fight stress.
Blessings,
Simcha
Posted by jtevers on January 20, 2004, at 18:13:16
In reply to Neurontin, posted by panic_attack on January 17, 2004, at 17:19:57
hello all..
i have been on neurontin and seroquel ( an antipsychotic ) since being diagnosed bipolar in 2000.
i have consequently gained 60 lbs over two winters due primarily to my med. regimen... weight that has not responded to diet or exercise.
i am currently investigating alternatives to my present treatment schedule and a local doctor advised i switch from neurontin to lamictal because of a decreased propensity to cause weight increase. i have heard of only variable reports of weight gain on neurontin and wondered what your collective experience has been?
i must admit, the weight i gained seemed to coincide with a dose increase in my gabapentin / neurontin and makes me wonder, along with the doctor, whether neurontin is the culprit ... any insight?
Posted by platinumbride on January 21, 2004, at 1:41:46
In reply to Re: Neurontin / gabapentin weight gain?, posted by jtevers on January 20, 2004, at 18:13:16
I notice that when I take neurontin I want to eat like crazy! I know that for that reason, at least, I have gained a lot of weight. I have wondered, too, whether or not it slows the metabolism...
Unfortunately for me, lamictal was ineffective after a time. Neurontin always has been able to calm me down, and that is what I have relied on it for. Does it work as a mood stablizer? Well......I can't say, because I don;t know what having stable moods feels like LOL.I wish you luck with Lamicatal. My shrink thinks it is a great drug.....well, maybe for other patients, but not for me.....
Diane
Posted by jtevers on January 21, 2004, at 18:35:57
In reply to Re: Neurontin / gabapentin weight gain?, posted by platinumbride on January 21, 2004, at 1:41:46
> I notice that when I take neurontin I want to eat like crazy! I know that for that reason, at least, I have gained a lot of weight. I have wondered, too, whether or not it slows the metabolism...
diane, and friends,i too have had relatively good success with neurontin "smoothing things out." although not a a mood-enhancer for me, hence my future trial with lamictal, it has always dealt quite fine, in combination with my antipsychotic (seroquel), with releaving mania.
although seroquel is infamous for its ability to pack on the pounds, i must by a process of elimination determine whether, as it is with a few, neurontin is the culprit behind my weight gain ... i have only read irregularly that it is responsible for such grand weight increase as mine (60lbs.).
a doctor has proposed i temporarily replace neurontin with lamictal and gabatril / tiagabine and exercise (hopefully) some weight off ... if it does in fact respond to this switch.
i wonder... has the weight you once gained on neurontin responded at all to diet or exercise?
and are you aware that very often when any drug, including lamictal, "poops out" an increased dose is very often all thats necessary?
Posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 9:03:12
In reply to Re: Neurontin / gabapentin weight gain? » platinumbride, posted by jtevers on January 21, 2004, at 18:35:57
It did cause weight gain, and I believe it does this by affecting more than one system related to weight gain. We tend to forget just how many systems can be involved in weight gain---from insulin issues, filling up the excess fat cells that only some people have, increasing appetite, causing terrrible carbo cravings, slowing the rate of the body down so less energy is used 24/7 *where someone was previously reacting and figeting 24/7 they slow down and thus use less energy just to say alive than they used to---now this is a hard one to notice, but there is evidence that people who fidget a lot tend to carry less weight than people who fidget and move around less even in their sleep or when sitting...)
Nuerontin may affect you without causing too much gain. It also caused water retention in me--facial and stomach bloat. Unfortunately, the only advice is--stay active, eat healthily but don't overeat. good luck.
Posted by jtevers on January 22, 2004, at 16:15:42
In reply to Re: weight gain neurontin » jtevers, posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 9:03:12
ramsea,
do you mind my asking how much weight you gained on neurontin, and whether it was resistant to exercise and diet?
have you lost any of it, and do you remain on neurontin to this day or what did you switch to? what dose levels had you been on or are you on?
had you lost any weight immediately after reducing or dropping your dose of neurontin, i wonder whether there is a dose-related response with the weight gain?
thanx
Posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 18:13:52
In reply to Re: weight gain neurontin » jtevers, posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 9:03:12
In the past few years I have had an amazing array of med trials. I guess it is most telling to look at my experience of Neurontin-only trials. When at my normal weight, which is as a middleaged adult 145 lbs at approx. 5'7, I immediately had about ten lbs water retention by the end of a week. My jeans wouldn't zip up where seven days previously they fit. That was taking 300 mgs. 3x daily. Over a period of three months on up to 2800 mgs daily I gained just over thirty pounds. This scared me and I dropped the Neurontin.
It didn't cause severe carbo cravings for me, as did Celexa and Lexapro---which for me was way OTT. But it did increase appetite. And I believe it also changed something in my normal weight regulating system. Insulin? Weight regulator changing its cue for normal? Who knows?
I can't blame unusual gluttony. I need fewer calories than most people do to survive. They say the average woman needs 2000 cals a day. Lucky average woman! More than 1700 cals and I gain. To lose, we are talking very low calorie, starvation level. Even when I was bulimic as a teenager I didn't binge--I just ate the normal meal and threw that up. So I am not even sure it counts as bulimia. I have a body which my husband describes as very efficient--what it takes in, it uses or keeps. He is very thin and eats a lot, and I figure some of that calorie intake just whooshes out of him. With me, it stays on loyally.
I said all of that to give you a picture of my individual body-type. What type are you? Were you a chubby baby/child? Have you gone on starvation diets and dieted a lot?
Without psychotropic meds, I eat and drink and exercise in such a way to keep my weight normal at around 140-150 lbs. I appear hearty and hale!! But really, the shape is healthy and womanly and though I might long for my bulimic teenage 115 lbs I really was rather ill with all that fashionable thinness. Nature designed me to be "voluptuous." But as soon as the antidepressants, et al, come into me, almost immediately I change. It becomes an arduous task to keep weight off.
The last time I used gabapentin I was on lithium too. I exercised three hours daily (yes, true), and kept calories to about 1500. I didn't lose or gain.
I know some people don't gain on gabapentin. You may be one of them. Without a doubt, keep a well-primed diet/exercise program going and that may be enough for you to keep off the bloat. Watch out for edema, which is common enough. hope I helped a little.
Posted by jtevers on January 23, 2004, at 17:43:33
In reply to Re: neurontin weight » ramsea, posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 18:13:52
ramsea,
thanx for the insight.
i myself had outgrown my babyfat in the 80s and developed over the following decade into a marathoner and gym-rat...you see why this, the weight issue, is overwhelming to me.
getting my life back in order means my physical health as well as emotional and psychological.
i refuse to resign myself over to obesity, and too have investigated for some time the root cause of and possible remedies to the weight gain.
while many doctors insist that it is the seroquel (an antipsychotic) causing my weight to increase, there remain both doctors and experienced patients who exclaim they have gained weight like mine simply from neurontin / gabapentin.
i am currently following the advice of one such docor, prominent in the field of bipolar research and treatment, and will try to exchange neurontin for tiagabine / gabatril which has a decreased propensity to add fat...she insists though that i must add lamictal additionally, since tiagabine doesn't have the mood stabilizing effect of neurontin.
i have heard that many side effects of neurontin, including the weight gain, are dose-dependant and i'm hoping to see my weight respond before i've weaned completely off of it.
i have been following the Atkins Diet and begun exercising to no avail.
i pray this switch, either tiagabine for neurontin or abilify for seroquel, will show some results.
thanx again.
Posted by ramsea on January 24, 2004, at 12:16:17
In reply to Re: neurontin weight, posted by jtevers on January 23, 2004, at 17:43:33
Thanks for your reply, though it does sound as if you have been through the proverbial mill, and I am never glad to hear of a fellow sufferer. It amazes me that some of your doctors don't see or own up to the Neurontin weight gain potential. But as PopEye would say (I think?) "I knows what I knows." We do have excellent documentation to back this one up.
Seroquel in low dose isn't stopping me from weight loss, but the process is slow. It can be an added devastation coping with massive and inexplicable weight gain caused from psych meds either on their own, or maybe made worse in combination. But the good news is that we can deal with this.There's so much to try--different meds, different combos, different doses. And all the lifestyle things, like trying Atkins. An obese relative of mine has found Atkins to be the only diet that has allowed sustained weight loss.
Hope the Gabitril is just the thing for you. And I have heard that Lamictal can be very healing. Knock on wood, this could be the year you leave the rotten old mill and its dirty old pond behind, lol!!
Posted by LOKIsDREAM on January 24, 2004, at 21:40:29
In reply to Re: neurontin weight » ramsea, posted by ramsea on January 22, 2004, at 18:13:52
> In the past few years I have had an amazing array of med trials. I guess it is most telling to look at my experience of Neurontin-only trials. When at my normal weight, which is as a middleaged adult 145 lbs at approx. 5'7, I immediately had about ten lbs water retention by the end of a week. My jeans wouldn't zip up where seven days previously they fit. That was taking 300 mgs. 3x daily. Over a period of three months on up to 2800 mgs daily I gained just over thirty pounds. This scared me and I dropped the Neurontin.
>
> It didn't cause severe carbo cravings for me, as did Celexa and Lexapro---which for me was way OTT. But it did increase appetite. And I believe it also changed something in my normal weight regulating system. Insulin? Weight regulator changing its cue for normal? Who knows?
>
> I can't blame unusual gluttony. I need fewer calories than most people do to survive. They say the average woman needs 2000 cals a day. Lucky average woman! More than 1700 cals and I gain. To lose, we are talking very low calorie, starvation level. Even when I was bulimic as a teenager I didn't binge--I just ate the normal meal and threw that up. So I am not even sure it counts as bulimia. I have a body which my husband describes as very efficient--what it takes in, it uses or keeps. He is very thin and eats a lot, and I figure some of that calorie intake just whooshes out of him. With me, it stays on loyally.
>
> I said all of that to give you a picture of my individual body-type. What type are you? Were you a chubby baby/child? Have you gone on starvation diets and dieted a lot?
>
> Without psychotropic meds, I eat and drink and exercise in such a way to keep my weight normal at around 140-150 lbs. I appear hearty and hale!! But really, the shape is healthy and womanly and though I might long for my bulimic teenage 115 lbs I really was rather ill with all that fashionable thinness. Nature designed me to be "voluptuous." But as soon as the antidepressants, et al, come into me, almost immediately I change. It becomes an arduous task to keep weight off.
>
> The last time I used gabapentin I was on lithium too. I exercised three hours daily (yes, true), and kept calories to about 1500. I didn't lose or gain.
>
> I know some people don't gain on gabapentin. You may be one of them. Without a doubt, keep a well-primed diet/exercise program going and that may be enough for you to keep off the bloat. Watch out for edema, which is common enough. hope I helped a little.
>
> Anybody have a clue what my body's up to? I've been doing 2400mg/day Neurontin in conjunctio with 500mg/day Dilantin for several years and it has been keeping my epilepsy under control quite nicely with my weight holding steady around 125(I'm 5'10",age 36,Male,if it makes a difference). Due to recent events(ex#2), I have been put on Effexor 300mg/day and Remeron 60mg/at night(damn, I luv being able to sleep!), but while almost everyone on any of these meds gains weight, I lost about 30 pounds in the last 3 months! I have also, recently stopped taking the Effexor due to the unpleasant side effects and started having seizures again. Would be most appreciative of any answers. Thanx
Posted by jtevers on January 25, 2004, at 12:01:41
In reply to Re: seroquel, weight » jtevers, posted by ramsea on January 24, 2004, at 12:16:17
> Thanks for your reply, though it does sound as if you have been through the proverbial mill, and I am never glad to hear of a fellow sufferer. It amazes me that some of your doctors don't see or own up to the Neurontin weight gain potential. But as PopEye would say (I think?) "I knows what I knows." We do have excellent documentation to back this one up.
>
> Seroquel in low dose isn't stopping me from weight loss, but the process is slow. It can be an added devastation coping with massive and inexplicable weight gain caused from psych meds either on their own, or maybe made worse in combination. But the good news is that we can deal with this.There's so much to try--different meds, different combos, different doses. And all the lifestyle things, like trying Atkins. An obese relative of mine has found Atkins to be the only diet that has allowed sustained weight loss.
>
> Hope the Gabitril is just the thing for you. And I have heard that Lamictal can be very healing. Knock on wood, this could be the year you leave the rotten old mill and its dirty old pond behind, lol!!Thanx ramsea, i wish all who i've discussed my case with were both as informed, sensitive and sincere as you have been.
Posted by ramsea on January 27, 2004, at 7:08:30
In reply to Re: neurontin weight, posted by LOKIsDREAM on January 24, 2004, at 21:40:29
Although many meds ***can*** and often do cause weight gain, side effects on RXlist usually report some weight loss for some people, even if rare. I personally would want to have a GP give me the full works of blood tests, etc. to ensure I was not burdened by any other disorder. But paradoxical effects to occur. Some people lose weight even on the big gainer Zyprexa. So the concept of this great weight loss isn't shocking, but it is uncommon. Can you get a good physical done? Too much weight loss can be just as troubling aa weight gain gonemad. Let us know what you figure out??? Wishing you well, ramsea
Posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 6:36:36
In reply to Re: seeking help » LOKIsDREAM, posted by ramsea on January 27, 2004, at 7:08:30
This stuff works! I just switched from 45mg of Remeron to 100mg 3x daily. As with some people, it has a stimulating effect which is a nice change from the Remeron. Or, it could be the fact that it keeps me from feeling anxious which allows me to act 'normal'(which is somewhat hyperactive).
Nerontin almost has the same effect as Adderal has on me, but without the insomnia. It also helps the thoughts associated with SP by allowing me to let go of them instead of getting stuck, as did the Adderal. It lets the thought process proceed to the next item and levels out the whole process. It literally feels level, especially when compared to everyone else.
I'm trying to find a chemical explination of these medications and their effects so I can tell which freegin part of my head is screwed up! lol......
Posted by SandyWeb on January 28, 2004, at 11:20:53
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 6:36:36
We seem to almost be in the same situation. I keep bumping into you! Lol!
Yes, I've found Neurontin to be very stimulating. It is funny how you are supposed to start at bedtime due to the fatigue it causes. Well, it has never made me one bit sleepy.
I used to drag through the day with very little energy. Since taking the Neurontin, I find that I can tolerate the entire day without going through huge tiredness slumps. I am very thankful for that!
It is interesting that you mentioned ADD. I am inattentive myself, but I never considered Neurontin as a med for that particular situation. I will have to experiment some and see what results I get. I'm not sure if it helps me to focus, like you were saying. But it certainly wakes me up. Hmmmm....maybe if I take my doses closer together. Do you find that it helps on a continuous basis, or just a burst and then it's gone?
I take 800mg, two times per day. My prescription is actually for three times per day, but I haven't had the need to do that. Maybe I should. I truly need help with my focus! It is impacting very negatively on my life, and I just can't seem to get it together for any length of time. Sigh.
Anyways, let me know how it goes with the Neurontin. I also had quit Remeron, but I've gone back to it last night. I'm going to try and tolerate 45mg, when the NE is most prominent. Like I said, I really am in a bit of a crisis situation now in terms of my inattentiveness. I need to get myself focused!! Argh!
Take care! I'm so glad for you that you've found Neurontin to help! It is a wonder drug, isn't it?
Sandy
Posted by SandyWeb on January 28, 2004, at 12:52:34
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 6:36:36
Chemical Effect: Unknown; although structurally related to gamma-amino butyric acid (GABA), drug doesn't interact with GABA receptors and converted metabolically into GABA or a GABA agonist.
Absorption: bioavailability isn't dose proportional but averages about 60%
Distribution: drug circulates largely unbound to plasma protein
Metabolism: not appreciably metabolized
Excretion: excreted by kidneys as unchanged drug
Half-life: 5-7 hours
Pharmacologic class: 1-aminomethyl cyclohexoeacetic acid
Posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 14:06:09
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user » thinkfast, posted by SandyWeb on January 28, 2004, at 11:20:53
Haha..Yes, we do keep bumping into each other. Your inattentive ADD is very interesting. There seems to be some conncetion in all of this. The doc's don't believe I have it, but I disagree somewhat. There are too many symptoms that apply to me. I also love reading your posts on the subject.
The Neurontin does seem to be the best med I've tried so far. It takes about an hour to kick in and lasts about 5 hours or so. I may play around with the dosage times a little, but every 4 hours seems to do get the best results. Jeez, I don't know what a higher dosage would do. Your 800mg is quite a bit more compared to my 300. The only prob that has came up is the insomnia. The doc said it would knock me out...ha! It takes something 'extra strengh' to put me out!
Does it help you sleep? Mine wears off before I go to bed, but the stimulation would keep me awake anyway. I just stopped the damn Remeron, which helped me sleep, but I felt I had been sedated for long enough. Do you have any reccomendations for a good sleep aid that doesn't have a long half-life that which you a zombie in the morning? God, it would be nice to find just one med that would take care of all of this, wouldn't it?
Posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:26:28
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 6:36:36
Hi again, Is anyone using neurontin for bipolar or [besides seizures] what does it treat? thanks for any response. theresaM
Posted by thinkfast on January 29, 2004, at 15:57:23
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by terrics on January 29, 2004, at 15:26:28
anticonvulsant, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders, pain disorders, migraine
Here's a good link for meds
http://sl.schofield3.home.att.net/medicine/psychiatric_drugs_chart.html
Posted by jtevers on January 29, 2004, at 16:22:34
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 6:36:36
to all current posters:
i have been on neurontin / gabapentin for several years along with an antipsychotic for treatment of bipolar.
i have gained 60 lbs over the two previous winters and each time i gained it seemed to correspond to dose escalations in my neurontin...
this makes me believe, despite that many doctors insist my antipsychotic is to blame, that neurontin is the culprit behind this weight gain.
i'm about to begin a trial with gabatril / tiagabine to replace neurontin, but wonder whether any others have experienced profound gain while taking this drug ... the weight does not respond to diet or exercise?
i'd appreciate your input.
thanx.
Posted by SandyWeb on January 29, 2004, at 16:44:49
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user, posted by thinkfast on January 28, 2004, at 14:06:09
Hey there!
I've been experimenting with my Neurontin the past 2 days. I've been taking my 800mg doses FOUR times per day.
Normally I feel the effects wear off around three hours. So, in hopes of seeing if it would help with my focus problems from ADD, I've been taking 800mg at 8am, noon, 3pm, and 6pm. I don't know about focus, but it sure makes me buzzed!
I'm going to continue for a few more days. The buzz will probably calm down once my body adjusts to the new dosage. If it continues to make me buzzed, I'm going to have to go back to just two doses per day. I need to be able to concentrate without a body buzz! *wink*
Yes, just like you I can not take Neurontin for insomnia. It is much too activating a med for me! I've "met" only a handful of others who are stimulated by this med. The norm is to calm and make sleepy. I wonder why it's the complete opposite for us??
Hmmm....no, I do not have a remedy for your insomnia. I have BAD insomnia myself. I've been this way for years, and I guess I've just adapted to it. But it would be wonderful not to wake up constantly all night long. I just can't imagine!!!
You mentioned that Remeron made you tired. That didn't work for me. I was so excited to try it, especially when my doctor told me that it makes people "profoundly tired". Pshaw!! It didn't do a thing, from 7.5mg up to 60mg. Oh well.
Let's see....I've tried Nozinan, and my pdoc couldn't believe that it didn't "touch me", as she said. Trazadone did nothing other than give me a massive migraine for the entire next day!!! The benzos didn't even work. Zopiclone did nothing. I can't remember what else I've tried. I think maybe I need to work in the other direction.....meds that help me to stay alert and awake during the day since we can't seem to get my brain to settle down enough to sleep properly.
Have you tried Wellbutrin for your ADD? I'm going to hopefully suggest this to my doc the next time I see her....if I can get a backbone to do that.
Anyways, the Neurontin makes me very awake at these 4 doses. But it comes with the disadvantage of a buzz. I don't like that because I'm in classes and labs all day, and I'm scared someone will notice! I feel like I'm doing something bad! Lol! But I'll give it a shot and see what happens once my body adjusts. Fingers crossed that it helps my focus.
Have a great day!!
Sandy
Posted by thinkfast on January 29, 2004, at 18:23:02
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user » thinkfast, posted by SandyWeb on January 29, 2004, at 16:44:49
I havn't been 'professionally' diagnosed with ADD, but I seem to have a lot of the symptoms and meds for it calm me down, mentally anyway...hehe
Posted by contemplative1 on January 29, 2004, at 20:07:28
In reply to Re: Neurontin--new user » thinkfast, posted by SandyWeb on January 29, 2004, at 16:44:49
I am one of the fortunate ones. Neurontin 900Mgs makes me sleep like a baby. However, my wife has had severe insomnia most of her life and she tried Neurontin (kept her up all night) and the following to help her sleep (none of which worked)
- Celexa
- Paxil
- Trileptal
- Provigil (during the day to help her wake up earlier)
- Lexapro (had to talk her out of jumping off the nearest building on this one)
- Luvox
- Remeron
- Seroquel
- Ambien (made her hallucinate for an hour before helping her sleep, but she felt like rotten egs in the morning)
- Halcion (too addictive)
- Clonazepam (made her relaxed and happy so she did not want to sleep)Until she went to a sleep specialist who has cured her in 2 visits:
Specifically she made my wife (something I have tried unsuccessfully for years) do the following:
- Wake up between 730-8AM no matter what
- Go outside and sit and bathe her senses in natural sunlight for a minimum of 15 minutes
- Eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at the same time every day
- No caffeine whatsoever (can stay in system for up to 20 hours)
- No alcohol
- No snacks after 9PM
- No citrus with or after dinner (including tomatoes)
- High protein, low fat meals
- Exercise before noon
- No nap except 30 minutes or less before noon and none after
- Bed is for sleep and sex ONLY (no reading or watching TV or eating)
- Wind down at about 10:30AM (to match her desired wake up time) which means relaxing reading or TV, no mind activating activities.This has been a miracle cure for her. She had also tried all the herbal stuff as well and these were more harm than good.
> Hey there!
>
> I've been experimenting with my Neurontin the past 2 days. I've been taking my 800mg doses FOUR times per day.
>
> Normally I feel the effects wear off around three hours. So, in hopes of seeing if it would help with my focus problems from ADD, I've been taking 800mg at 8am, noon, 3pm, and 6pm. I don't know about focus, but it sure makes me buzzed!
>
> I'm going to continue for a few more days. The buzz will probably calm down once my body adjusts to the new dosage. If it continues to make me buzzed, I'm going to have to go back to just two doses per day. I need to be able to concentrate without a body buzz! *wink*
>
> Yes, just like you I can not take Neurontin for insomnia. It is much too activating a med for me! I've "met" only a handful of others who are stimulated by this med. The norm is to calm and make sleepy. I wonder why it's the complete opposite for us??
>
> Hmmm....no, I do not have a remedy for your insomnia. I have BAD insomnia myself. I've been this way for years, and I guess I've just adapted to it. But it would be wonderful not to wake up constantly all night long. I just can't imagine!!!
>
> You mentioned that Remeron made you tired. That didn't work for me. I was so excited to try it, especially when my doctor told me that it makes people "profoundly tired". Pshaw!! It didn't do a thing, from 7.5mg up to 60mg. Oh well.
>
> Let's see....I've tried Nozinan, and my pdoc couldn't believe that it didn't "touch me", as she said. Trazadone did nothing other than give me a massive migraine for the entire next day!!! The benzos didn't even work. Zopiclone did nothing. I can't remember what else I've tried. I think maybe I need to work in the other direction.....meds that help me to stay alert and awake during the day since we can't seem to get my brain to settle down enough to sleep properly.
>
> Have you tried Wellbutrin for your ADD? I'm going to hopefully suggest this to my doc the next time I see her....if I can get a backbone to do that.
>
> Anyways, the Neurontin makes me very awake at these 4 doses. But it comes with the disadvantage of a buzz. I don't like that because I'm in classes and labs all day, and I'm scared someone will notice! I feel like I'm doing something bad! Lol! But I'll give it a shot and see what happens once my body adjusts. Fingers crossed that it helps my focus.
>
> Have a great day!!
>
> Sandy
>
Posted by justjustine on January 29, 2004, at 22:52:59
In reply to Neurontin, posted by panic_attack on January 17, 2004, at 17:19:57
anyone have any experience using neurontin in effexor or paxil withdrawal? or in any other withdrawal situations?
thank you.
Posted by thinkfast on January 30, 2004, at 15:46:30
In reply to Neurontin in SSRI withdrawal, posted by justjustine on January 29, 2004, at 22:52:59
Neurontin seems to be helping with the withdrawl from the Remeron, although it's not a standard SSRI. It took about 3 days to get over the anxiety and mood swings with the help of Neurontin.
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