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Posted by Psycho D on September 2, 2003, at 0:52:02
Hi,
I have been researching and talking to people and I am very optomistic about some of the meds available to treat my Social anciety, ADD, and atypical depression. However, i have had the sad experience of a med (paxil cr) stop working effectively for me and the memory of this is a cloud that over shadows my hopefulness. I still havn't recovered from the paxil going out on me and as a result i have my first psychiatrist appointment in a week. My questions are:What meds most commonly poop-out, i mean is there a trend? My blind assumption would be that the more selective, gentler meds would stay effective for longer and the less-selective, generally older meds like Maoi's and tryciclis would poop-out more
Also, what actually causes the med to poop-out and which mental illnesses are less treatable in the long term. I've heard that bipolar tendencies has something to do with it but i'm pretty much in the dark. Knowledge is power so if any one could help me out here i would be very very grateful
Posted by galkeepinon on September 2, 2003, at 3:28:44
In reply to The dreaded med POOP-OUT: questions concerning, posted by Psycho D on September 2, 2003, at 0:52:02
Hi, here's the start of a whole thread right here on PB back in 2001:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20011015/msgs/81909.html
Hope this helps:-)
> Hi,
> I have been researching and talking to people and I am very optomistic about some of the meds available to treat my Social anciety, ADD, and atypical depression. However, i have had the sad experience of a med (paxil cr) stop working effectively for me and the memory of this is a cloud that over shadows my hopefulness. I still havn't recovered from the paxil going out on me and as a result i have my first psychiatrist appointment in a week. My questions are:
>
> What meds most commonly poop-out, i mean is there a trend? My blind assumption would be that the more selective, gentler meds would stay effective for longer and the less-selective, generally older meds like Maoi's and tryciclis would poop-out more
>
> Also, what actually causes the med to poop-out and which mental illnesses are less treatable in the long term. I've heard that bipolar tendencies has something to do with it but i'm pretty much in the dark. Knowledge is power so if any one could help me out here i would be very very grateful
>
Posted by Sebastian on September 2, 2003, at 12:29:13
In reply to The dreaded med POOP-OUT: questions concerning, posted by Psycho D on September 2, 2003, at 0:52:02
I wonder if the meds actualy poop-out or if the side-effects out weigh the positive effects hence poop-out?
Posted by galkeepinon on September 3, 2003, at 2:12:21
In reply to Re: The dreaded med POOP-OUT: questions concerning, posted by Sebastian on September 2, 2003, at 12:29:13
That's a thought. I think after so long being on a medication, maybe one gets *used* to it, and after increasing the dose as high as one can go safely, with decreasing and ultimate disappearing benefit, I would then call it *poop-out*
I would say if the side-effects out weigh the positive effects of a medication like these types, I'd call that *throw-out* ;)
Take care:-)
> I wonder if the meds actualy poop-out or if the side-effects out weigh the positive effects hence poop-out?
Posted by cubbybear on September 4, 2003, at 2:04:51
In reply to The dreaded med POOP-OUT: questions concerning, posted by Psycho D on September 2, 2003, at 0:52:02
> Hi,
> I have been researching and talking to people and I am very optomistic about some of the meds available to treat my Social anciety, ADD, and atypical depression. However, i have had the sad experience of a med (paxil cr) stop working effectively for me and the memory of this is a cloud that over shadows my hopefulness. I still havn't recovered from the paxil going out on me and as a result i have my first psychiatrist appointment in a week. My questions are:
>
> What meds most commonly poop-out, i mean is there a trend? My blind assumption would be that the more selective, gentler meds would stay effective for longer and the less-selective, generally older meds like Maoi's and tryciclis would poop-out more
>
> Also, what actually causes the med to poop-out and which mental illnesses are less treatable in the long term. I've heard that bipolar tendencies has something to do with it but i'm pretty much in the dark. Knowledge is power so if any one could help me out here i would be very very gratefulYou ask some questions that loads of us would like answered. First off, I believe that poop-out has been linked, though not definitively, to a depletion of dopamine.
Second, although I myself do not suffer from social anxiety or ADD, I have had decades of experience with major depression and anxiety.
So I can speak only from my own experience.
I have had total success with MAO Parnate for nearly 20 years and THANK GOD, no poopout.I have experienced the horrors of poopout with Remeron.
The tricyclics have fallen out of favor and the MAOIs Parnate and Nardil have been vilified and unfairly withheld from many people who might benefit from them, but it seems to me that the MAOIs, which have been around for decades, poop out far less frequently than the SSRIs.
If anyone has done a complete study of poopout rates among all the ADs on the market, from A-Z, I'd love to see it.
Good luck and may you never have to speak the dreaded words "poopout" again.
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