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Posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 15:58:08
Hi folks,
I'm back as Squiggles. Congrats. to Dr. Bob
on his new book - that's on my list; i just
ordered a history of psych. "The Invisible Plague"
by Dr. Fuller Torrey, and i have so many others
to catch up to. I would like to read the Jamison
one the medical one on bipolar disorder
(OUP) or order it. OUP books are very expensive;
You can order many US books
2nd hand, which is what i do and now that the Cdn.
dollar is rising that's good; i have not been able
to do that with Amazon Cdn.Anyway, i have VERY good news on Remeron. It seems
to be the best drug yet for my friend who has very
deep, unremittant unipolar depression. Sleep is ok,
no anxiety, no depression, just a bit of a hangover,
which we hope will go away - maybe the previous
drug should have been washed out.And she is only taking 15mg; her dr. may raise it who knows;
we will see. But this drug, unlike the others
(MAOI, imipramine, just about all the SSRIs, lithium,
and some others) hits the anxiety AND the depression;
so for some of you chemists it may have something
to do with a different structure - it is a NASSA
drug.I am very optimistic, and i confess tired -
imagine how she feels after 20 or so drug
trials, all of them sucky. I think this is
the greatest problem in psychiatry today - matching
the drugs with the condition - it really must
give fuel to the fires of the anti-psychiatry
desperados.So, that's it for now.
Take care
Squiggles
Posted by jack smith on May 5, 2003, at 16:34:28
In reply to Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar, posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 15:58:08
> I'm back as Squiggles.
who were you before?
>the greatest problem in psychiatry today - > matching
> the drugs with the condition -More like matching the drug to the PERSON. Seems like people with exact same symptoms can react totally different to same drugs. Congratulations to your friend. What dose is she at? What were her symptoms?
JACK
Posted by CharlieL on May 5, 2003, at 16:37:22
In reply to Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar, posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 15:58:08
Yo, Squiggles!Great news there about your friend!
How many days has she been on the Remeron at 15mg?
PS: FYI, Here is also an update on my own Remeron usage, at this link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030505/msgs/224524.html
regards,
Charlie
Posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 16:54:48
In reply to Re: Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar, posted by jack smith on May 5, 2003, at 16:34:28
I was Squigglatrix for a while.
Well, matching the drug to the person - ok -
the person does have a condition which is
bothersome, and that is was what i meant -
that the drug is targetting that condition.Most of the drugs i mentioned more or less
targeted the depression (imipramine being the best)
but left the person with the side effects
ofinsomnia
anxiety
irritability
diarrhea
stomach aches
inability to concentrate
anger
social phobia- this is not to say that this drug will not
have side effects - but the most important
ones (anxiety and insomnia) are tackled.
That is a clear victory.Squiggles
Posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 16:59:57
In reply to Re: Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar » Squiggles, posted by CharlieL on May 5, 2003, at 16:37:22
Posted by CharlieL on May 5, 2003, at 17:24:49
In reply to Re: Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar (nm) » CharlieL, posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 16:59:57
Hey Squiggles, I think the message part of your latest reply to me got lost -regards,
Charlie
Posted by Squiggles on May 5, 2003, at 17:47:40
In reply to Re: Remeron better than many others for deep unipolar » Squiggles, posted by CharlieL on May 5, 2003, at 17:24:49
Yeah,
I must have pressed "no message" sorry -
OK - it has been a week and it is looking
good. I noticed your message about appetite -
definitely -- but it is a luxury to sleep and
have no anxiety even though you get chubby i
suppose - lithium has the same problem but
prob. because of the thyroid as well as
appetite. Have you noticed how drugs that make
you feel less anxious also increase appetite?Anyway, perhaps that is why i have seen combos
with Wellbutrin with Remeron - to level it out -
but as i have often said, psychopharmacology
is an art.I'll let you know if her dr. increases the dose
to 30mg. Initially that was too much of a
knockout, so it was reduced.Squiggles
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