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Posted by Edgefield on April 11, 2003, at 18:15:46
Please can some one tell me which one is better for depression? I read a post that said Fish Oil has helped with their derealization and depression. I just need to know what I should ask for at the health food store...also how does Seriphos and Phosphatidylserine figure in with all of this....yes, I'm a bit confused..
God Bless - Edgefield
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 12, 2003, at 9:14:20
In reply to Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Edgefield on April 11, 2003, at 18:15:46
> Please can some one tell me which one is better for depression? I read a post that said Fish Oil has helped with their derealization and depression. I just need to know what I should ask for at the health food store...
The simple answer is fish oil. Flax oil is a distant second best.
>also how does Seriphos and Phosphatidylserine figure in with all of this....yes, I'm a bit confused..
>
> God Bless - EdgefieldPhosphatidyl serine, or PS (I'm presuming Seriphos is a brand of PS?), is both a component of neuronal membranes and something like a hormone, i.e. it blocks the effects of cortisol. It's rather pricey, but it's effective.
Fish oil and PS should work together nicely.
Lar
Posted by Edgefield on April 12, 2003, at 16:49:35
In reply to Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Larry Hoover on April 12, 2003, at 9:14:20
Thanks Larry...I purchased the fish oil today. How much should I take? I ordered the Seriphos from The Vitamin Shoppe and it will be delivered in a couple of days.
God Bless
Edgefield> > Please can some one tell me which one is better for depression? I read a post that said Fish Oil has helped with their derealization and depression. I just need to know what I should ask for at the health food store...
>
> The simple answer is fish oil. Flax oil is a distant second best.
>
> >also how does Seriphos and Phosphatidylserine figure in with all of this....yes, I'm a bit confused..
> >
> > God Bless - Edgefield
>
> Phosphatidyl serine, or PS (I'm presuming Seriphos is a brand of PS?), is both a component of neuronal membranes and something like a hormone, i.e. it blocks the effects of cortisol. It's rather pricey, but it's effective.
>
> Fish oil and PS should work together nicely.
>
> Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2003, at 9:03:48
In reply to Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed » Larry Hoover, posted by Edgefield on April 12, 2003, at 16:49:35
> Thanks Larry...I purchased the fish oil today. How much should I take? I ordered the Seriphos from The Vitamin Shoppe and it will be delivered in a couple of days.
> God Bless
> EdgefieldStart out reasonably slowly with the fish oil. Some people need to build up their tolerance to it. I'd start with 2 grams a day, with your biggest and fattiest meal of the day. Go up 1 more gram every week. Some people think that 5 or 6 grams a day is an effective maintenance dose. Others need less or more. You'll just have to try it out, and see what your tolerance is, and how it benefits you (or not).
Lar
Posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 11:44:19
In reply to Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2003, at 9:03:48
Larry, when you refer to grams in the previous post, I assume you are referring to grams of fish oil rather than grams of EPA--am I assuming correctly?
Thank.s.
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2003, at 11:46:20
In reply to Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed » Larry Hoover, posted by noa on April 13, 2003, at 11:44:19
> Larry, when you refer to grams in the previous post, I assume you are referring to grams of fish oil rather than grams of EPA--am I assuming correctly?
>
> Thank.s.Correct.
Posted by McPac on April 13, 2003, at 20:42:06
In reply to Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2003, at 9:03:48
"with your biggest and fattiest meal of the day"
Larry, what kinds of foods would be considered 'good', healthy fats to eat when taking fish oil?
Thanks!
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 14, 2003, at 8:56:26
In reply to Larry, Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by McPac on April 13, 2003, at 20:42:06
> "with your biggest and fattiest meal of the day"
>
> Larry, what kinds of foods would be considered 'good', healthy fats to eat when taking fish oil?
> Thanks!The reasons I use that phrase are: a) the bigger the meal, the less likelihood of "rancid fish burps" (which totally suck); b) the presence of other fats in the meal help stimulate the secretion of substances into the gut, which emulsify and enhance uptake of the fats. A little fish oil in a meal that is mostly carbs may not be sufficient to signal the body to "invest" its precious chemicals (bile).
The whole good fats/bad fats thingie leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Ever notice that obesity has become much more common since the "reduce calories of fat" philosophy has been brain-washed into us?
Good fats (I know, this is radical)....butter. Red meat. Just stay away from anything that has "hydrogenated" anywhere in the ingredients list, particularly if it comes near the top.
Lar
Posted by Katia on April 14, 2003, at 15:05:18
In reply to Re: Larry, Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Larry Hoover on April 14, 2003, at 8:56:26
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your info. I've got a few questions now too! One, where do you get your info/sources?I've been taking fish oil tablets from Costco - Kirkland Signatures(do you know this store) for about 9 months at 500mg-1000mg per day. I didn't realize that I needed so much. And it hasn't helped with my depression. Two, Do you recommend any particular brand? On the back of my bottle it says: natural fish oil concentrate 2000mg containing EPA 360 mg and DHA 240 mg. Whereas two tablets are 1000mg of fish oil. Does look like a good one?
And three, does 1000mg = 1 gram? :-)
how long before you notice anything?
Thanks so much.
Katia
Posted by Ed O`Flaherty on April 17, 2003, at 17:20:59
In reply to Re: Larry, Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed » Larry Hoover, posted by Katia on April 14, 2003, at 15:05:18
> Hi Larry,
> Thanks for your info. I've got a few questions now too! One, where do you get your info/sources?
>
> I've been taking fish oil tablets from Costco - Kirkland Signatures(do you know this store) for about 9 months at 500mg-1000mg per day. I didn't realize that I needed so much. And it hasn't helped with my depression. Two, Do you recommend any particular brand? On the back of my bottle it says: natural fish oil concentrate 2000mg containing EPA 360 mg and DHA 240 mg. Whereas two tablets are 1000mg of fish oil. Does look like a good one?
>
> And three, does 1000mg = 1 gram? :-)
>
> how long before you notice anything?
> Thanks so much.
> KatiaThe best dose of fish oil for depression seems to be around 1g (1,000mg) of EPA but some benefit from a higher dose.
Posted by lawrence S. on April 20, 2003, at 1:26:36
In reply to Re: Larry, Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by Ed O`Flaherty on April 17, 2003, at 17:20:59
I apoligize if I'm posting this twice. I tried to answer eailier but I think I was filtered out since I wasn't using my home computer.
No Costco stores around here yet but give it time.
How long till you notice anything? If memory serves correct, <spock eyebrow>I think I "felt" something after a few days but it wasn't nothing much, maybe a few minutes of calm. I think it will take several weeks to months to find out just how much benefit it gives you. I don't feel it working right now but if I stop taking it for a few days, the horrible thoughts start popping in my head. Then I start back on the fish oil and a few days later the intrusive, obsessive thoughts along with derealization, scarey deja' vu feelings go back into the corners of my mind where they came from. This is the only way that I know it's working. As far as brands, I feel safer when labels say 3rd party tested for contaminants or moleculaly distilled. It makes me feel a little more comfortable taking it. I think I take around 1500mg EPA and 800 DHA a day.
Posted by Katia on April 20, 2003, at 14:03:13
In reply to Re: Larry, Re: Fish Oil -vs- Flaxseed, posted by lawrence S. on April 20, 2003, at 1:26:36
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