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Posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 0:38:29
I don't feel right. My moods are so off I am scared. I quit Effexor-XR cold turkey 2 months ago, and now I feel like I still need a mood stabilizer as I posted in my first post, I haven't felt good since stopping the Effexor-but it made me way too manic. Now I am having restless legs in the morning. Lamictal did wonders for me at only 100 once at night, but I am thinking of starting Topomax for the first time because I have heard of the weight loss side effect. But should I stick with what worked? I am so scared. I am in school trying to succeed while my mental health deteriorates again-I was doing so well, and now I am really not doing so good. PLease help.
Posted by zeliva on February 23, 2003, at 0:53:09
In reply to I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 0:38:29
I know how you feel. I was just diagnosed with cyclothymia which is a milder form of bipolar. I am also in school but I am on a leave with just 2 weeks left to finish. I needed to figure out my meds before I take school on again. I left school in Nov. I too am on Seroquel. I take it for sleep and I also take prozac during the day. I think the Seroquel has been making me VERY depressed lately and I need to see my Doc on Tuesday about it. Try what you think might help. If something worked before it will probably work again. Talk to your Doc. and be honest about your concerns with the weight loss/gain issue. You will find something that will work. Stay possitive, this too shall pass. That is what I try and tell myself.
Zeliva
Posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 1:16:49
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by zeliva on February 23, 2003, at 0:53:09
> I know how you feel. I was just diagnosed with cyclothymia which is a milder form of bipolar. I am also in school but I am on a leave with just 2 weeks left to finish. I needed to figure out my meds before I take school on again. I left school in Nov. I too am on Seroquel. I take it for sleep and I also take prozac during the day. I think the Seroquel has been making me VERY depressed lately and I need to see my Doc on Tuesday about it. Try what you think might help. If something worked before it will probably work again. Talk to your Doc. and be honest about your concerns with the weight loss/gain issue. You will find something that will work. Stay possitive, this too shall pass. That is what I try and tell myself.
>
> ZelivaI was actually diagnosed with "mild bipolar" I guess that's bipolar 2???? I am so messed up, Isee my doc monday I pray I make it til then-I am not good and haven't been thank you for your reply
Posted by Tony P on February 23, 2003, at 2:13:38
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 1:16:49
I have seen Klonopin recommended for restless leg/akathisia and it also helps with anxiety and insomnia. There are some very recent posts here that suggest it also acts as an antidepressant for some people.
Tony
> > I know how you feel. I was just diagnosed with cyclothymia which is a milder form of bipolar. I am also in school but I am on a leave with just 2 weeks left to finish. I needed to figure out my meds before I take school on again. I left school in Nov. I too am on Seroquel. I take it for sleep and I also take prozac during the day. I think the Seroquel has been making me VERY depressed lately and I need to see my Doc on Tuesday about it. Try what you think might help. If something worked before it will probably work again. Talk to your Doc. and be honest about your concerns with the weight loss/gain issue. You will find something that will work. Stay possitive, this too shall pass. That is what I try and tell myself.
> >
> > Zeliva
>
> I was actually diagnosed with "mild bipolar" I guess that's bipolar 2???? I am so messed up, Isee my doc monday I pray I make it til then-I am not good and haven't been thank you for your reply
Posted by whitman on February 23, 2003, at 11:50:43
In reply to I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 0:38:29
I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thing right now. The meds I was taking aren't working anymore so now I am starting all over again and after so many years of this I am so frustrated that I have thoughts of just giving up on all of it. But I will struggle through and find another good combo that will work for me. So maybe you should go back to what worked before and if that doesn't work then keep trying! Topamax is also a good med, it can have bad affects on your IQ though.Good luck and stay strong.
Posted by male34 on February 23, 2003, at 15:31:59
In reply to I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 0:38:29
> I don't feel right. My moods are so off I am scared. I quit Effexor-XR cold turkey 2 months ago, and now I feel like I still need a mood stabilizer as I posted in my first post, I haven't felt good since stopping the Effexor-but it made me way too manic. Now I am having restless legs in the morning. Lamictal did wonders for me at only 100 once at night, but I am thinking of starting Topomax for the first time because I have heard of the weight loss side effect. But should I stick with what worked? I am so scared. I am in school trying to succeed while my mental health deteriorates again-I was doing so well, and now I am really not doing so good. PLease help.************hey my friend realx your ok and feelings are normal dont let them get bigger though control your fear ,get to doc big borrow or deal get a DR appt, a.s.a.p. then get dr's choice but you may be going througha tough time in life bringing on stress and fear etc,, take it easy stay busy and exercise,pray im on lexapro my fear is down ,but ask your dr ,for you hang in there good luck ill pray for you
Posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 22:49:48
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by male34 on February 23, 2003, at 15:31:59
> > I don't feel right. My moods are so off I am scared. I quit Effexor-XR cold turkey 2 months ago, and now I feel like I still need a mood stabilizer as I posted in my first post, I haven't felt good since stopping the Effexor-but it made me way too manic. Now I am having restless legs in the morning. Lamictal did wonders for me at only 100 once at night, but I am thinking of starting Topomax for the first time because I have heard of the weight loss side effect. But should I stick with what worked? I am so scared. I am in school trying to succeed while my mental health deteriorates again-I was doing so well, and now I am really not doing so good. PLease help.************hey my friend realx your ok and feelings are normal dont let them get bigger though control your fear ,get to doc big borrow or deal get a DR appt, a.s.a.p. then get dr's choice but you may be going througha tough time in life bringing on stress and fear etc,, take it easy stay busy and exercise,pray im on lexapro my fear is down ,but ask your dr ,for you hang in there good luck ill pray for you
Yes! I am so fearful, especially of success. I don't exercise, but I do pray. I had an episode today, I flew off the handle AGAIN. I get so angry and so depressed. I know this is partly due to the fact that I am not on any meds. Why do I go off them-thinking I don't need them? It is apparent that I do, I don't see my doctor until Firday, and I am still debating between Topomax or Lamictal. I think I will start back on Effexor-XR myself tomorrow am. This cannot go on and something has to change. I feel like I am rapid cycling. I thought about suicide today and now I am not-I am just so down and I haven't felt this way in a long time. I tried to find a quiet place to pray, and I couldn't. I am out of control and I want it to stop.
Thank you everybody for your considerate posts, I am just hurting and numb
Posted by male34 on February 24, 2003, at 8:23:57
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 22:49:48
hey my friend hang in there shake it off your life your friend and your family are all waiting go ,do it turn over a new leaf for good, all the love is here for you , god blees good luck & keep the faith!,male 34 I BELIEVe in you
Posted by noa on February 24, 2003, at 20:14:20
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 23, 2003, at 22:49:48
How did your pdoc appointment go to today?
Posted by KrissyP on February 24, 2003, at 20:51:48
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » KrissyP, posted by noa on February 24, 2003, at 20:14:20
Thank you so much for those of you who replied to my heartache-believe it or not, it helped a lot. I started back on 75mg Effexor-XR this morning, and I start back on 50mg Lamictal tonight. A few hours after taking that first pill of Effexor-XR again, I got a bad headache. I was thinking that, yes, the med had been out of my system and that was a sign that my body is now getting introduced to it again. I'm wondering how my body will react to the 50mg of Lamictal tonight. I am so done with going off and on these meds. I am trying so hard to realize that I do need them, and I do have a mood disorder. My pride gets in the way, and I only end up hurting myself, and those that love me, especially my mom. I don't want to sound self-centered-that's another issue, a comment I got from an ex-friend in the heat of her anger and her issues. Anyway.... I will never forget the "attacks", "lashing outs", the severe mood swings after going off of Lamictal last March, and the huge, deep depression I have felt since and moreso lately-so severe after going off Effexor-XR in December. I am not saying that I am doing great after only 1 dose of starting it again, I'm not. I still felt a little sad throughout today, but all I can do now is wait, and wait, be patient, and persist. I am a big believer on realizing medication isn't going to "fix it", but it helps me personally cope a little better, calms me down a little better. At 32, I am at a point where I am really thinking about what makes me feel worthwhile in life, and I am working towards getting the courage to spread my wings and fly again. It has been many years. I thought about yoga, and some kind of involvement with others besides the psychiatric realm alone. My life has had no meaning for a long time and I feel better when I am interacting among people. I see my Psychiatrist again just 4 days from now on Friday for a check up on how these meds are doing with me. These feelings that are happening are really, really tough, and I have sincere empathy for those who suffer not only what I am feeling and what I have been through but what THEY are feeling and what they have been through also! I can't say it enough.
Posted by noa on February 24, 2003, at 21:10:17
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by KrissyP on February 24, 2003, at 20:51:48
I think it is a hard process to come to a realization that you want to stick with the course of treatment. It took courage and I am glad you did. Even if Effexor isn't "THE" med for you, it is worth trying again. Clearly, you don't like the way you feel off of it.
A lot of us have been through the process. I did not want to accept the idea of long term meds, but I was not doing well at all when I went on and off meds, which was actually recommended to me in the beginning (over a dozen years ago) but the on and off may make responding to meds harder.
Hopefully Effexor and Lamictal will work for you. If not, don't get discouraged. Work with your pdoc to tweak the dosage, or substitute another med or add a med to augment.
In some ways I hate having to take all my meds, but I also know that I need them because I have a serious depressive disorder that is hard to treat and I feel good that it finally is under control, not perfect, but under control.
You are right, meds alone might not be enough. But you might need the medication to provide a basic "floor" under you that you can stand on to pursue the other parts of your healing path.
Posted by KrissyP on February 24, 2003, at 22:18:16
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by noa on February 24, 2003, at 21:10:17
I am so happy that you feel as if your depressive disorder is under control!
Thank you for your post, I appreciate your support and kind words. Yeah, I guess it did take courage, but I just know I have been absolutely miserable off the Effexor (more recntly) AND the Lamictal. That med did wonders for me. May I ask what meds you are on or have tried and your experience with them? I have been thinking a lot lately about "other" issues that need to be worked through and gotten over so I can work towards the life I want and deserve. I believe you never get over things, they happened, but what is anyone's views on being able to put it in perspective so these "issues" don't have an ever-lasting impact on our lives??? We deserve the best.
Posted by noa on February 26, 2003, at 4:39:55
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » noa, posted by KrissyP on February 24, 2003, at 22:18:16
I take the following meds:
Adderall XR 30 mg
Synthroid 50 mcg
Cytomel 12.5 mcg 2x/day
Effexor XR 262.5 mg
Serzone 500 mg
Ativan .25 mg
Fish oil
Daily vitamin
Chromium Picolinate
Folic Acid
Posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 12:56:31
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » KrissyP, posted by noa on February 26, 2003, at 4:39:55
> I take the following meds:
>
> Adderall XR 30 mg
> Synthroid 50 mcg
> Cytomel 12.5 mcg 2x/day
> Effexor XR 262.5 mg
> Serzone 500 mg
> Ativan .25 mg
> Fish oil
> Daily vitamin
> Chromium Picolinate
> Folic AcidAnd does it help you? What does the fish oil do?
Posted by noa on February 26, 2003, at 18:50:35
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » noa, posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 12:56:31
Krissy,
Yes, the cocktail does help. Not perfect both in terms of AD effect and side effects, but good enough for now. The fish oil I added just back in December. It improves my mood. I'm also hoping to see other benefits, like better cholesterol numbers. But mainly, for depression.
Posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 19:32:15
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » KrissyP, posted by noa on February 26, 2003, at 18:50:35
> Krissy,
>
> Yes, the cocktail does help. Not perfect both in terms of AD effect and side effects, but good enough for now. The fish oil I added just back in December. It improves my mood. I'm also hoping to see other benefits, like better cholesterol numbers. But mainly, for depression.***********May I ask what kind of fish oil? Are they capsules? Where can I get them-it sounds worth a try.
Thank you for replying,
Kristen
Posted by male34 on February 26, 2003, at 22:12:24
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » noa, posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 19:32:15
omega 3 fish oils taken 3 times or 4 times a day, give it 3 weeks to work , i read an article why fish are happy, it works good luck
Posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 23:37:49
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED, posted by male34 on February 26, 2003, at 22:12:24
> omega 3 fish oils taken 3 times or 4 times a day, give it 3 weeks to work , i read an article why fish are happy, it works good luck------------------------------------------------------------Thank you so much I am going to think about it. I just recently started back on Effexor and Lamictal after thinking I could go off of it, so I don't want to introduce too many things into my body at once. Thanks for the info:0)
Kristen
Posted by male34 on February 27, 2003, at 7:58:34
In reply to Re: I AM REALLY SCARED » male34, posted by KrissyP on February 26, 2003, at 23:37:49
if it makes you feel at ease any omega 3 fish oil capes are derived ( taken sqeezed) from the actuall fish of course so its just like eating tunea samon mackeral etc... , so its 100% natureal and safe , to take with meds, good luck get out there and enjoy life dont think to hard and let it flow , ill pray for you my friend good luck
ps there are 2 paperback books cheap 5.99 by auther earl mindell (vitamin bible) & ( supplement bible) read them tons of all natureal stuff can take with meds to enhance and help your problem every little bit helps.
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