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Posted by ace on February 25, 2003, at 21:46:13
I am one of the only 550 people here on Nardil. What are you fellow Aussies on?
Ace.
Posted by bluedog on February 26, 2003, at 6:28:57
In reply to Any Australian psycho babblers out there?, posted by ace on February 25, 2003, at 21:46:13
> I am one of the only 550 people here on Nardil. What are you fellow Aussies on?
>
> Ace.Another Aussie babbler here...there are at least 4 or 5 others here that I'm aware of.
I'm on Lovan (generic Prozac) and Valium for social anxiety (my primary diagnosis) and depression. I asked my Pdoc about Nardil but because my current combo is working well at the moment I'm not too keen to give Nardil a go yet unless my current combo "poops out".
Only 550 Nardil users in all of Australia hey?......it must be pretty damned expensive...or is it?
regards to you Ace
bluedog
Posted by ace on February 26, 2003, at 18:47:56
In reply to Re: Yep!! » ace, posted by bluedog on February 26, 2003, at 6:28:57
> > I am one of the only 550 people here on Nardil. What are you fellow Aussies on?
> >
> > Ace.
>
> Another Aussie babbler here...there are at least 4 or 5 others here that I'm aware of.
>
> I'm on Lovan (generic Prozac) and Valium for social anxiety (my primary diagnosis) and depression. I asked my Pdoc about Nardil but because my current combo is working well at the moment I'm not too keen to give Nardil a go yet unless my current combo "poops out".
>
> Only 550 Nardil users in all of Australia hey?......it must be pretty damned expensive...or is it?
>
> regards to you Ace
> bluedog
>
>
Blue dog,How are you fellow Aussie! I'm a Sydney boy, where are you?
Dude, you sound like a PRIME candidate for Nardil (ie - social anxiety, depression).
With Nardil my doc (NOT a pdoc, i hate them now)
had to send a form to Canberra for special access. It's basically called the Special Access Scheme. The Nardil is not on the PBS, but even so I only pay $8 for 100 tablets.If you couldn't make a deal with your pharmacy, assuming your doc is a cool dude, get the manafacturer (Link Pharmaceuticals) to send the tablets straight to your doc -- free of charge!
Even if it costed me $70 i wouls still pay it's that brilliant. i would just get my folks to help out.
Remember, not many docs like to prescribe them (ie they are lazy and are conned by the newer crappier meds (ie SSRIs). Try your doc, if not, try another.
I'm telling you dude, Nardil is so brilliant.
Keep in touch 'mate' (don't here that word much around here!!!)Ace.
Nardil, 90mg.
Posted by IsoM on February 27, 2003, at 0:53:30
In reply to Re: Yep!! » bluedog, posted by ace on February 26, 2003, at 18:47:56
Ace, have you found Nardil causes any problems with weight gain? I've been told by one doctor that MAO inhibitors are still some of the best ADs out there but due to weight problems & diet restrictions, they're rarely used any more. How long have you been on it?
Posted by ace on February 27, 2003, at 19:50:10
In reply to nardil ?ace, posted by IsoM on February 27, 2003, at 0:53:30
> Ace, have you found Nardil causes any problems with weight gain? I've been told by one doctor that MAO inhibitors are still some of the best ADs out there but due to weight problems & diet restrictions, they're rarely used any more. How long have you been on it?
Hey IsoM,
Boy, I share the same opinion in the above post. It's great to see people who want tolerate nonsense from jumped-up little pdocs who need major treatment themselves!
Now, on to Nardil...I have been on it 3 months and 4 days. Yes, I have gained weight, but by know means a tremendous amount. I used to have a very skinny belly, now it is, according to my flat mate, a pot-belly!! No, I drink NO alcohol ( I used too, but on Nardil I'm so happy I don't feel the need) The weight gain doesn't bother me at all. Not everyone gains a huge amount.
The doc who said MAOIs were some of the best AD's out there was wrong - They are THE best.
With Nardil I feel always very, very happy and motivated. At times I feel a lot of love for the world. It has, at times, made me forget my illness and focus on the lovely things in life. I had extreme Phobic Anxiety (very difficult to leave house a lot of the time), Derealization (VERY scary feeling which the phobic anxiety is centered around) moderate to major Social Phobia, moderated Generalized Anxiety Disoreder and moderate to, at times, very bad depression. I also have severe OCD. All except for the OCD has been cured 90%+, at times 100%. The OCD has been helped 50%, but right at the moment (in the past few days) it is seriously starting to fade away. I think 2/3 weeks I will see 80-85% reduction in OCD.If you are thinking about an MAOI - DO IT!
Are you in Australia, isoM? I'm in Sydney. If you are an Aussie I can give you all the details about how to get it.
Look foward to hearing from you.
Ace.
Nardil, 90mg.
Posted by IsoM on March 1, 2003, at 0:24:43
In reply to Re: nardil » IsoM, posted by ace on February 27, 2003, at 19:50:10
Nope, not from Oz but a Canuke. It's funny as I just had a conversation with y doc & he said he's even diagnosed schizophrenia in one patient. He says almost 50% of his practice is related to mental & emotional disorders. Hard to figure out disorders, or resistant to treatment always get referred to a pdoc, but he says that many times a family doc can do more of a "whole person" treatment as the doc normally treats the rest of the family so knows what the situation is like. He said that patients feel comfortable telling him what's really bothering them. Sometimes a problem can be more a situation in the home rather than a disorder in the person. Whereas people still feel leery of going to a pdoc, they don't mind being treated by a family doc & will admit problems easier to him. He's sure a lot saner than many pdocs I've seen.
I was just curious about Nardil as almost everyone has said they've gained weight on MAO inhibitors & the more people I hear from, the more balanced the info will be. I'm glad to hear the weight gain has been minimal though.
Currently, the combo I'm on is doing great. No problems with GAD, SP, or OCD. I have plain depression & SAD as it always has gotten very bad in winter, but not this winter since I've been using Provigil. You & bluedog are at opposite ends of the country. I hear it was a very bad summer with fires in Sydney. I love to keep up with all the international news.
Spring is starting here & it's only going to get better from now on. I live in a diff area than most of Canada. We only had snow for a day or two around Christmas. We can grow bananas here (but the fruit generally doesn't get a chance to ripen on them), though some winters, they need protection. Canada isn't all snow & ice!
Posted by Baxter on June 15, 2003, at 3:11:31
In reply to Re: nardil » IsoM » ace, posted by IsoM on March 1, 2003, at 0:24:43
After years of psychotherapy following sexual harassment and inherited depression, I went to a psychiatrist for drug therapy. Over the next 2 years I was given everything on the market and nothing worked. My doctor had saved Nardil for last given the severe dietary restrictions. It worked! I have continued taking it for the last 7+ years at 5 tablets/day with one exception. My doctor moved away and I decided to take myself off the medication. I worked the dosage down slowly. What I noticed within 2 weeks of arriving at a zero dosage was that my sugar cravings went away. I went to the aisles at the grocery store where I used to hang out (junk food and bakery); nothing looked good. I noticed that I was very thirsty.
When I started on Nardil, I gained 100 pounds in 2 years. During the brief time I stopped taking the drug I started losing weight easily. Unfortunately, when I went back on Nardil, the cravings came back full force.
It is not just about sugar; it is also about quantity. When I have a severe craving, it feels like there is not enough sugar in the whole store to satisfy it. I buy large quantities.
I have lost weight and gained it back. Now I am down 30. I wish I could find something that would reduce these cravings. I drink at least 100 ozs. of water/day and sometimes closer to 200. That does not seem to help. If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate them very much.
While Nardil is the only drug I take and I don't like taking drugs, I will stay on Nardil for the incredible relief it gives me. I pay $70+ a month and that is worth it also. I suffered from migraine headaches before I went on Nardil. The one great side effect is that the headaches stopped.
I used to be a marathoner and broke my foot just after I started taking Nardil. The combination of no exercise and the sugar cravings did not support my long distance running. I am walking regularly now so that I can be ready to run again when I have lost enough weight and it is safe to do so.
I look forward to messages that might give me suggestions about diminishing my sugar cravings.
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