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Posted by linkadge on January 4, 2003, at 7:41:02
When you're depressed, you often don't
stretch when you get up in the morning.Stretching releases certain available
endorphins, which truely depressed people
don't have. It's a good indicator of
your level of depression.
Linkadge
Posted by bluedog on January 4, 2003, at 10:08:53
In reply to depressed people don't stretch, posted by linkadge on January 4, 2003, at 7:41:02
> When you're depressed, you often don't
> stretch when you get up in the morning.
>
> Stretching releases certain available
> endorphins, which truely depressed people
> don't have. It's a good indicator of
> your level of depression.
>
>
> LinkadgeHi Linkadge
I Hope Dr Bob allows this thread to remain on the med board . You did after all refer to "Endorphins". That's a biochemical topic ..Right?
Anyway, Your post probably explains why I feel worse during the holiday periods of my yoga classes and I don't have the motivation [due to depression of course :) ] to stretch without the guidance and motivation that my yoga teacher provides.
Just my thoughts on this topic!!
warm regards
bluedog
Posted by IsoM on January 4, 2003, at 17:12:07
In reply to depressed people don't stretch, posted by linkadge on January 4, 2003, at 7:41:02
Interesting thought, linkadge. It's something I notice about myself. There's a difference (for me) in voluntarily stretching to stretch your muscles (like yoga or pre-exercise warm ups), & in automatically stretching when one changes position or wakes up. That type of stretching is more the way a cat stretches. No amount of voluntary stretching seems to help me feel more limber & energetic if I have to force it - even a little. But when I automatically stretch (I make little grunting/sighing noises), I feel a release of tension & a surge of good feeling - almost like some hormones or neurotransmitters were suddenly released into my system.
I'm really curious to know what chemicals are released with a good heart-felt stretch. If anyone reading this knows, please tell us & provide a link if possible. I'm wondering if it's not some of the same chemicals released when one defecates. Honestly! I know some sort of hormone/neurotransmitter comes from releasing a full bowel that makes it somewhat pleasant. If it weren't so, I'd say most people wouldn't wish to do so. A good sneeze or a big yawn gives the same sort of relaxed but alert feeling.
An aside:
Something amusing is how one of my cats has taken to imitating the little sounds I make when I stretch. He never used to but now he's got his own little cat grunts & sighs when he stretches.
Posted by jay on January 5, 2003, at 1:42:03
In reply to stretching as a mood indicator » linkadge, posted by IsoM on January 4, 2003, at 17:12:07
Actually...I think a good stretch is similar to a bit of the tension release of a good orgasm. I know there is a sneezing-orgasm link...I am just too lazy to look around the web for the info. My mood is tied to my sex drive, and a really "feel good" powerful orgasm is a good indicator of my mood.
Also, I have read in "Noonday Demon" that for men, having nocturnal erections, and waking up with one, is a good sign of a positive mood-state. It is SO sad antidepressants often ruin these things. I often notice when I listen to a really powerful piece of music, sometimes the 'rush' is orgasmic-like. There aren't too many feelings in life that equal the powerful orgasmic feeling, and I wonder if we start treating peoples sex drives, if we would come (no pun intended;-) as close to a 'cure' for depression. Like...say the doc Rx's "6 powerful orgasms a day"..I think there would be a lot more smiling faces around. Some Viagra to start...adjust hormone levels...add say a Pstim when 'down'..and a benzo for the anxious moments...hmmmmm. Sounds like a plan to me. :-)
Jay
Posted by Alara on January 5, 2003, at 4:41:21
In reply to depressed people don't stretch, posted by linkadge on January 4, 2003, at 7:41:02
> When you're depressed, you often don't
> stretch when you get up in the morning.
>
> Stretching releases certain available
> endorphins, which truely depressed people
> don't have. It's a good indicator of
> your level of depression.
>
>
> Linkadge
This is an interesting observation, Linkadge. I have actually noticed that I have been stretching a lot since starting Celexa. And, yes, it does feel good! Where did you get this information?
Posted by beardedLADY on January 5, 2003, at 5:49:02
In reply to depressed people don't stretch, posted by linkadge on January 4, 2003, at 7:41:02
Posted by linkadge on January 5, 2003, at 7:44:07
In reply to probably the best observation I've seen here! (nm) » linkadge, posted by beardedLADY on January 5, 2003, at 5:49:02
I used to wake up and just sit there,
and after taking celexa for a while
I would wake up and stretch. I can't
remember the last time that happened,
since I was a kid I think. I saw people
stretch when they got up on TV but I thought
that was just some sort of TV thing.Sneezing is another thing. I absolutely love
sneezing. I thought it was just me. It starts
with a little tingley feeling in the nose,
and radiates through the head and body.
People stay in a good mood for at least 15
sec after sneezing.
Linkadge
Posted by beardedLADY on January 5, 2003, at 12:29:51
In reply to Re: probably the best observation I've seen here!, posted by linkadge on January 5, 2003, at 7:44:07
Posted by Alara on January 6, 2003, at 3:29:48
In reply to Re: probably the best observation I've seen here!, posted by linkadge on January 5, 2003, at 7:44:07
> > People stay in a good mood for at least 15
> sec after sneezing.
>
>
Not when they suffer from severe hayfever...Trust me on that one!
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