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Posted by Denise528 on June 14, 2002, at 8:48:06
Also, does anyone know where I can get a list of good psychiatrists in the UK from?
Denise
Posted by JonW on June 14, 2002, at 12:19:48
In reply to Does Dr Martin Jensen have a website?, posted by Denise528 on June 14, 2002, at 8:48:06
Hi Denise,
His web site is http://www.drjensen.com/ . It is not illogical to think that our medication responses might guide treatment, but I'm very skeptical of the idea that any conclusion about a medication can be drawn in just a few days. His book has some interesting information here and there, but in my opinion, this guy is just in it for the money! Maybe some others have some first hand experience with him and know otherwise...
Jon
Posted by JahL on June 14, 2002, at 22:11:22
In reply to Re: Does Dr Martin Jensen have a website? » Denise528, posted by JonW on June 14, 2002, at 12:19:48
> Hi Denise,
>
> His web site is http://www.jensen.com/ . It is not illogical to think that our medication responses might guide treatment, but I'm very skeptical of the idea that any conclusion about a medication can be drawn in just a few days. His book has some interesting information here and there, but in my opinion, this guy is just in it for the money! Maybe some others have some first hand experience with him and know otherwise...I have met the guy (almost 2 yrs ago). Lost interest in me when he couldn't 'cure' me in 24hrs. Bit of a glory-hunter IMO. He appeared on Jerry Springer once over here. Need I say more?
Denise, I am UK. Can't post specific names here but IME both Oxford & Newcastle teaching hospitals have some good staff, particularly if you are very T. R. Couldn't find anyone decent in the private sector.
J.
Posted by amber_spirit on June 16, 2002, at 1:07:10
In reply to Does Dr Martin Jensen have a website?, posted by Denise528 on June 14, 2002, at 8:48:06
I have some personal experience with Dr. Jensen and have only good things to say so far! He's the only doctor (pdoc, general practitioner, etc) who's been willing to look at thyroid and ADD for me so far. I'm not sold yet, but he's much more thorough, logical, and willing to listen than anyone I've found up to this point. I've only met with him twice so far, so I'll keep you informed...
I got to him through a chain of people (family and friends) who have been helped in a short time after many years of failures. One of them is my uncle who's looking for a job after 15 years of being unable to work and about 40 years of trying to deal with his depression.
AS
Posted by Denise528 on June 17, 2002, at 10:41:35
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jensen , posted by amber_spirit on June 16, 2002, at 1:07:10
Hi,
Thanks for that, please keep us informed. I'd really like to book an appointment with him myself, thing is I live in the UK. Do you know if he has a web site or how I could contact his office, I've been going through hell for over a year now and if it were possible would be prepared to travel to the States if I thought it would help.
I am interested in the fact that he is prepared to look at thyroid treatment for you, do you have thyroid problems?
Denise
Posted by amber_spirit on June 25, 2002, at 13:46:49
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jensen , posted by Denise528 on June 17, 2002, at 10:41:35
Hi,
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble. I think someone already posted his web address but if not here it is...
www.drjensen.comYou asked if I have thyroid problems and the answer is I have all the symptoms and have had my thyroid gland swell but labs always come back in the "normal" range. So, my other drs have pretty much told me its all in my head. Maybe it is, but I'm feeling much less fatigued on the thyroid meds.
I can't tell you that Dr. Jensen is the only doc to see or that his approach is the only way. I will tell you that he's the best pdoc I've found. There are a number of reasons why I like him. He's willing to look at ALL my symptoms without dismissing half of them as "in my head". He's willing to discuss the reasoning behind a certain treatment choice. He gives me some control over my medications - if it makes me miserable stop taking it, compare these two meds and decide which one works best, etc. Also, I like the idea of comparing different medications. In my experience, the medications that helped started to make me feel better within a few days and the ones that made me really sick to start with never got better. I agree that side-effects often diminish with time and it can take a while for a medication to have its full effect. But, by allowing me to compare different meds, the idea is to a) find the BEST match and b) garner more information from how I react so that he can narrow down the choices.
I like him and his approach. However, that is my opinion and experience and I'm sure there may be others who feel differently. I'm on synthroid (T4) right now and testing tofranil (which seems to be working well so far). I'll let you know as things progress.
Best of luck to you in finding a great pdoc.
AS
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for that, please keep us informed. I'd really like to book an appointment with him myself, thing is I live in the UK. Do you know if he has a web site or how I could contact his office, I've been going through hell for over a year now and if it were possible would be prepared to travel to the States if I thought it would help.
>
> I am interested in the fact that he is prepared to look at thyroid treatment for you, do you have thyroid problems?
>
>
>
> Denise
Posted by Denise528 on June 25, 2002, at 14:21:07
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jensen , posted by amber_spirit on June 25, 2002, at 13:46:49
Hi,
Thanks for the info and I couldn't agree more with you. In my experience when drugs have worked for me they have worked within the first 4 days or at the very least the first 2 weeks and I've experienced very few side effects (well none that bothered me). I too like the idea of comparing different drugs in short succession to find the best match. I've wasted the past year giving certain drugs lengthy trials, knowing all along that they weren't going to work.
Denise
Posted by denise528 on August 3, 2002, at 13:19:14
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jensen , posted by amber_spirit on June 16, 2002, at 1:07:10
> I have some personal experience with Dr. Jensen and have only good things to say so far! He's the only doctor (pdoc, general practitioner, etc) who's been willing to look at thyroid and ADD for me so far. I'm not sold yet, but he's much more thorough, logical, and willing to listen than anyone I've found up to this point. I've only met with him twice so far, so I'll keep you informed...
>
> I got to him through a chain of people (family and friends) who have been helped in a short time after many years of failures. One of them is my uncle who's looking for a job after 15 years of being unable to work and about 40 years of trying to deal with his depression.
>
> ASHi again,
Are you still seeing Dr Jensen? Has he been of any help?
Denise
Posted by denise528 on August 3, 2002, at 13:23:07
In reply to Re: Does Dr Martin Jensen have a website? » Denise528, posted by JonW on June 14, 2002, at 12:19:48
> Hi Denise,
>
> His web site is http://www.drjensen.com/ . It is not illogical to think that our medication responses might guide treatment, but I'm very skeptical of the idea that any conclusion about a medication can be drawn in just a few days. His book has some interesting information here and there, but in my opinion, this guy is just in it for the money! Maybe some others have some first hand experience with him and know otherwise...
>
> JonJust wanted to thankyou for the link.
Denise
Posted by amber_spirit on August 5, 2002, at 13:32:58
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jensen , posted by Denise528 on June 25, 2002, at 14:21:07
Well, I reached the 6 week mark with Dr. Jensen
and am currently on Synthroid 50 mcg, Depakote ER
1000 mg, and Seroquel 100 mg. I use 0.25 mg of
Xanax as needed for anxiety. Also, I have Stelazine
2mg for what I'll call "suicidal impulses" (it
seems to instantly take away the impulse). I found
that, for me, there was a response within 3-4 days
for each of the medications that I tried. Also, Dr.
J seemed to narrow in on "better" choices each time
and much more quickly than other doctors I'v worked
with. Whether that indicates the skill that Dr. J
has or the lack of skill of my previous pdocs is
something I'm still not sure of. I do know that he
was much more willing to look at all the classes
of medication as well as other causes (thyroid,
immune system, etc) than other pdocs I've seen.When I started the Depakote, the suicidal thoughts
were gone, within a day. It didn't really up my mood
but definitely made me feel more stable and made
suicide seem less "rational" than it had for months.
Unfortunately, because of job issues etc, I had to
leave CA right after we found the depakote. So, I'm
back in VA trying to do some "adjusting" on my own
while I wait to find a pdoc out here. I'm doing ok,
and feel very calm and stable (as opposed to anxious,
irritable, agitated, and suicidal) but need to find
something to help with the mood and energy. I'm
going to start adding lamictal today to see if it
helps. The lamictal was somewhat energizing and
subtly increased my agitation and anxiety when I
tested it. The thinking is that with the stabilizing
effect of depakote, the lamictal may give the mood
lift and energy that I still need with less liklihood
of being destabilizing than an AD.I definitely think it was worth it for me to take
6 weeks and go to CA to work with Dr. Jensen. I
don't feel I had the time to spend months on med
trials with doctors who dismissed all of my
physical problems as "psychosomatic" and made me
feel like it was my fault the meds weren't working.
I was getting increasingly fed up with medications
that made me feel worse and the liklihood of
suicide was great. I really felt that Dr. J or
ECT were my only other options.I just hope that you find a doctor who can work
with you effectively whether it be Dr. Jensen or
someone else. I do believe that he has a way of
analyzing medication responses that allows him to
narrow down the cause more effectively than the
standard approach and would recommend him highly.Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Amber Spirit
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