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Posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 9:12:13
It's my 4th day on 150 mg moclobemide, and for the last two days, I coudn't sleep.
Do you think a benzodiazapine like Ativan would help?
cem
Posted by paulb on April 18, 2002, at 15:49:58
In reply to insomnia, posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 9:12:13
nm
Posted by paxvox2000 on April 18, 2002, at 17:51:01
In reply to insomnia, posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 9:12:13
It depends. For the most part, yes, benzos will get you some sleep. However, it's not so cut and dry, there are so many variables. Because benzos are addictive, they should be used responsibly. Abuse and self-medication is very common with benzos, especially among those who drink a lot or abuse other drugs (street or prescribed). Have you tried "all" the alternatives yet? Because you will have to go that route in many cases unless you have a good personal relationship with your doc (i.e. he/she TRUSTS you). There are alternative that may work for you, such as Trazadone, which is not addictive, and has only a few side effects (none too bad for MOST people).
Then there are meds like Ambien and Sonata, which are non-benzo hypnotics (sleep aids). There is debate about developing tolerance or "addiction" to these meds as well, but I can tell you that you will eventually get less favorable results.
Now, as far as benzos go, there are many different "flavors" varying mostly by the med's half-life (i.e. how long it stays in your system).
Personally, I have found Ativan, Diazepam (Valium) and Xanax to be effective, but, as you will see posted here "your mileage may vary". So....that's a start for you, what else do you want to know?PAX
Posted by Will_Hung on April 18, 2002, at 17:59:10
In reply to insomnia, posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 9:12:13
I'm currently taking moclobemide at 600mg/day. When I started on 150mg/day I had insomnia and a pesky upset stomach for about three weeks before both side effects gradually disappeared. Each time I increase the dose the side effects return for about a week and then disappear again. They don't appear to get any worse as the dose goes higher, but the positive effects do get stronger.I should give it a couple of weeks more before you start reaching for the benzos as I personally think you'd be much better off without them.
Good luck,
Will
Posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 18:12:38
In reply to Re: insomnia » turalizz, posted by paxvox2000 on April 18, 2002, at 17:51:01
> It depends. For the most part, yes, benzos will get you some sleep. However, it's not so cut and dry, there are so many variables. Because benzos are addictive, they should be used responsibly. Abuse and self-medication is very common with benzos, especially among those who drink a lot or abuse other drugs (street or prescribed). Have you tried "all" the alternatives yet? Because you will have to go that route in many cases unless you have a good personal relationship with your doc (i.e. he/she TRUSTS you). There are alternative that may work for you, such as Trazadone, which is not addictive, and has only a few side effects (none too bad for MOST people).
> Then there are meds like Ambien and Sonata, which are non-benzo hypnotics (sleep aids). There is debate about developing tolerance or "addiction" to these meds as well, but I can tell you that you will eventually get less favorable results.
> Now, as far as benzos go, there are many different "flavors" varying mostly by the med's half-life (i.e. how long it stays in your system).
> Personally, I have found Ativan, Diazepam (Valium) and Xanax to be effective, but, as you will see posted here "your mileage may vary". So....that's a start for you, what else do you want to know?
>
> PAXI took 100 mg Trazadone tonight, hopping it might help. It's 2 am now, and I still can't sleep.
In the past, I took 30 - 60 mg mianserin for both sleep and depression; however the sedative effect of mianserin faded out after one month. After that, I tried remeron, but it was like candy after mianserin. Somehow, I feel like all these sedative drugs have lost their effects on me.
Anyway, I will discontinue moclobemide tomorrow, wait for a few days untill my sleep patern returns to normal.
cem
Posted by beardedlady on April 18, 2002, at 19:43:44
In reply to Re: insomnia Will_Hung , posted by turalizz on April 18, 2002, at 18:12:38
If you have insomnia, this is the last place you should be. I know it sounds cliche, but try to do something quiet and non stimulating.
insomnia beardy : )>
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