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Posted by Janelle on March 26, 2002, at 1:17:05
I've heard this anecdotally but would like to know if anyone out there with depression experiences what I'll call "day-to-night syndrome," meaning that you basically feel crappy all day, dragging around, tired, unmotivated, lethargic and all the wonderful symptoms of depression but then at NIGHT, particularly later at night, you seem to perk up and feel better?
Posted by pedr on March 26, 2002, at 3:48:09
In reply to DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression, posted by Janelle on March 26, 2002, at 1:17:05
Hi Janelle,
I experienced the "worse-than-shit during the day, but not too bad late on" scene every day for years. I still don't know why it occurred. My mood would lift about 10p.m. and stay okish till I went to sleep.I'd go to bed thinking, well, perhaps this will last into tommorrow, but, like Groundhog day, I'd experience exactly the same crash in mood again the following day.
There've been several posts on this subject late last year I think. In addition, people have posted about not sleeping and how it helps their mood stay up. I wouldn't recommend this for too many days though!
Best wishes,
pete.
Posted by Zo on March 26, 2002, at 3:50:43
In reply to DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression, posted by Janelle on March 26, 2002, at 1:17:05
Yes, for *decades*. . .and then, turns out it's a symptom of BP II. Would anybody listen to me? Nooooo.
Zo
Posted by BarbaraCat on March 26, 2002, at 12:17:47
In reply to Re: DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression, posted by pedr on March 26, 2002, at 3:48:09
Yes, my experience for as long as I can remember. My depression is the worst in the morning, gets better throughout the day and then I'm usually OK at night. Perk up around 10pm and then have trouble sleeping. Some theories say that it's a dysfunction in the cortisol/DHEA cycle, or primarily, that cortisol rises and peaks at night instead of in the morning.
Zo, you've been very helpful in confirming my BPII diagnoses. Anything you'd like to add to the pieces in the puzzle would be appreciated. - Barbara
Posted by christophrejmc on March 26, 2002, at 16:54:07
In reply to DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression, posted by Janelle on March 26, 2002, at 1:17:05
Did you see the question I asked you not too long ago re whether this might be ultradian (ultra-ultra-rapid) cycling? You have BPII, right? Have any mood stabilisers made a difference in the day & night differences?
Posted by Zo on March 26, 2002, at 17:50:42
In reply to Re: DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression - Zo, posted by BarbaraCat on March 26, 2002, at 12:17:47
Posted by trouble on March 26, 2002, at 22:56:38
In reply to DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression, posted by Janelle on March 26, 2002, at 1:17:05
Yes! This is my whole big problem w/the way of the world. My day starts at 5pm, always has, gets better hour by hour, peaking around 10 to midnight. This is totally unacceptable, I go to a sleep clinic when my survival's at stake and they get me back to human people's schedules, in bed at 11, up at 9am, braindead all day, zero imagination or problem solving skills, but what are you gonna do, ya gotta work.
trouble
Posted by Mags on March 26, 2002, at 23:29:06
In reply to night-time-is-the-right-time, posted by trouble on March 26, 2002, at 22:56:38
Ditto for me....I find this an interesting thread as I have ALWAYS hated mornings, even when I wasn't too depressed. I was a night owl as long as I can remember. As a kid I would sneak out into the lit hallway so I could read into the wee hours of the morning.
My husband always thinks the same, that I must be getting better...he will comment as he is going to bed at ten that now I am going to have some fun....read, play on computer etc. almost feel human...and THEN the morning comes...sigh....
Mags
Posted by Janelle on March 27, 2002, at 0:13:46
In reply to Re: DAY-to-NIGHT SYNDROME: depression » Janelle, posted by christophrejmc on March 26, 2002, at 16:54:07
Posted by Zo on March 27, 2002, at 4:43:03
In reply to night-time-is-the-right-time, posted by trouble on March 26, 2002, at 22:56:38
Remind me to post my pdoc's protocol for resetting one's clock. . .I gotta go to bed. It's pushing 3 a.m.. . .[And someday I'm going to follow it.]
Zo
Posted by lolly on March 27, 2002, at 19:47:42
In reply to Re: night-time-is-the-right-time » trouble, posted by Zo on March 27, 2002, at 4:43:03
> Remind me to post my pdoc's protocol for resetting one's clock. . .I gotta go to bed. It's pushing 3 a.m.. . .[And someday I'm going to follow it.]
>
> ZoZo,
Wow, this thread is so familiar. I can't remember when I felt like getting up at a "decent hour". I've bartended for the last 12 years because I wake up around 10-11pm. I finally have a great job(day) and I can't get out of bed in time. I love daybreak but only get to see it from the other side. I would really appreciate your "reset" info. Also, a basic description of the BPII symptoms. My sister was just recently diagnosed but it's not definate. Thanks!
Lolly
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