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Posted by Bekka H. on January 26, 2002, at 20:09:26
Hi. A few weeks ago, I posted a message inquiring about dawn simulators. I can't find my post, but I remember I got a reply from Noa, I believe, who said that he would respond when he had a chance to try out the dawn simulator. I'd like to hear how it is. Do you recommend it? Thanks.
Posted by Noa on January 28, 2002, at 17:22:41
In reply to Dawn simulators?, posted by Bekka H. on January 26, 2002, at 20:09:26
Hi. Yes, It arrived last week, and I hooked it up just the other night, so I've had about 3 mornings experience with it. So far, I like it. I have it set to take 30 minutes to "rise". I notice I wake up toward the end of that 30 minutes, when the light is fully or nearly-fully lit. I have no recall of having any awareness of the light before waking. I have to read the pamphlet about the pace if you set it for longer. It says something about starting off very gradually and then picking up speed, supposedly to mimic a real sunrise.
It also has a sunset feature which I like, meaning it dims gradually for the amount of time the sunrise is set for (I had it set at 30 min.). This is nice for getting ready for bed, etc.
It is not a replacement for bright light therapy, if you need that. But, for me, as an adjunct to the bright light therapy, since I have to get up before sunrise, it is nicer to get up to light than to sound, which is my back up, set on my regular clock for a few minutes after the sunrise, (the dawn simulator also has an optional sound alarm, but it rings the same time as the end of the sunrise, and I haven't use it because I wanted to test how it is waking up to light alone).
Posted by Bekka H. on January 28, 2002, at 20:37:04
In reply to Re: Dawn simulators?, posted by Noa on January 28, 2002, at 17:22:41
> Hi. Yes, It arrived last week, and I hooked it up just the other night, so I've had about 3 mornings experience with it. So far, I like it. I have it set to take 30 minutes to "rise". I notice I wake up toward the end of that 30 minutes, when the light is fully or nearly-fully lit. I have no recall of having any awareness of the light before waking. I have to read the pamphlet about the pace if you set it for longer. It says something about starting off very gradually and then picking up speed, supposedly to mimic a real sunrise.
>
> It also has a sunset feature which I like, meaning it dims gradually for the amount of time the sunrise is set for (I had it set at 30 min.). This is nice for getting ready for bed, etc.
>
> It is not a replacement for bright light therapy, if you need that. But, for me, as an adjunct to the bright light therapy, since I have to get up before sunrise, it is nicer to get up to light than to sound, which is my back up, set on my regular clock for a few minutes after the sunrise, (the dawn simulator also has an optional sound alarm, but it rings the same time as the end of the sunrise, and I haven't use it because I wanted to test how it is waking up to light alone).
*************************************************Hi, Noa. Thank you so much for the information! Would you tell me where you got it? I also have a sun box, which I purchased through Apollo Light Systems. I saw them advertise in a medical journal. I hear the Sunbox Company is good, too. Did you get your dawn simulator at either of those two places or someplace else?
Posted by Noa on January 30, 2002, at 18:16:10
In reply to Re: Dawn simulators?, posted by Bekka H. on January 28, 2002, at 20:37:04
I got my regular light box from Northern Lights, because they were having a sale on a soon-to-be-discontinued item (really no substantial changes in the new line, just changes in the external box).
The dawn simulator and the desk light I got from Apollo.
I got both the web addresses from the PB tips folder on SAD.
BTW, I adjusted my dawn time to 45 minutes and I like it better than at 30. It seems like it is easier for me to wake to light than to sound.
Posted by Bekka H. on January 30, 2002, at 22:13:53
In reply to Re: Dawn simulators? » Bekka H., posted by Noa on January 30, 2002, at 18:16:10
> I got my regular light box from Northern Lights, because they were having a sale on a soon-to-be-discontinued item (really no substantial changes in the new line, just changes in the external box).
>
> The dawn simulator and the desk light I got from Apollo.
>
> I got both the web addresses from the PB tips folder on SAD.
>
> BTW, I adjusted my dawn time to 45 minutes and I like it better than at 30. It seems like it is easier for me to wake to light than to sound.*************************************************
Thank you so much for the information. I think I'm going to get one. I'll try anything that might help me overcome my morning inertia.
Posted by Cecilia on February 2, 2002, at 0:40:55
In reply to Re: Dawn simulators?, posted by Bekka H. on January 30, 2002, at 22:13:53
> > I got my regular light box from Northern Lights, because they were having a sale on a soon-to-be-discontinued item (really no substantial changes in the new line, just changes in the external box).
> >
> > The dawn simulator and the desk light I got from Apollo.
> >
> > I got both the web addresses from the PB tips folder on SAD.
> >
> > BTW, I adjusted my dawn time to 45 minutes and I like it better than at 30. It seems like it is easier for me to wake to light than to sound.
>
> *************************************************
>
> Thank you so much for the information. I think I'm going to get one. I'll try anything that might help me overcome my morning inertia.I have a dawn simulator, but don`t bother using it much because I don`t wake to the light (though when the alarm goes off I find I`ve been dreaming about bright lights or sunlight). Cecilia
Posted by Cecilia on February 2, 2002, at 1:01:21
In reply to Re: Dawn simulators?, posted by Cecilia on February 2, 2002, at 0:40:55
> > > I got my regular light box from Northern Lights, because they were having a sale on a soon-to-be-discontinued item (really no substantial changes in the new line, just changes in the external box).
> > >
> > > The dawn simulator and the desk light I got from Apollo.
> > >
> > > I got both the web addresses from the PB tips folder on SAD.
> > >
> > > BTW, I adjusted my dawn time to 45 minutes and I like it better than at 30. It seems like it is easier for me to wake to light than to sound.
> >
> > *************************************************
> >
> > Thank you so much for the information. I think I'm going to get one. I'll try anything that might help me overcome my morning inertia.
>
> I have a dawn simulator, but don`t bother using it much because I don`t wake to the light (though when the alarm goes off I find I`ve been dreaming about bright lights or sunlight). CeciliaP.S. Mine is a "Verilux Rise and Shine Natural Alarm Clock"-good bedside reading light even if you find it doesn`t wake you up. You can wake to "pleasant" sounds instead of the light, but unfortunately it`s poorly designed in that you can`t set the pleasant sounds, only the alarm, to wake you if the light doesn`t. Cecilia
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