Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 49069

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Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds - Cam? Anyone?

Posted by Kath on November 19, 2000, at 13:14:31

I just heard on the radio that pseudoephedrine is being taken off the market.

The one sinus medication that has been successful for me contains: 2 mg chlorpheniramine Maleate, 30 mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride & 500 mg of acetaminophen
It's Life Brand Extra Strength Allergy & Sinus Relief.

I've tried different sinus meds in the past, but this one actually works.

I wonder what med could successfully replace this, if I can't continue to get it.

Why is pseudoephedrine being withdrawn?

Thx, Kath

 

Re: Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds - Cam? Anyone?

Posted by stjames on November 19, 2000, at 13:50:46

In reply to Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds - Cam? Anyone?, posted by Kath on November 19, 2000, at 13:14:31

Why is pseudoephedrine being withdrawn?
Thx, Kath

James here....

Some are reporting cardiac problems. I suspect the fact you can
make methamphetamine from it has something to do with it.

james

 

Re: Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds

Posted by JohnB on November 19, 2000, at 14:15:10

In reply to Re: Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds - Cam? Anyone?, posted by stjames on November 19, 2000, at 13:50:46

> Why is pseudoephedrine being withdrawn?
> Thx, Kath

I have sinus problems and used to buy Sudafed (which was basically pseudoephedrine) in 100 tablet bottles. About five years ago these stopped being sold and you could only buy blister packs of 24 tabs. I found out later that people who had these underground meth labs where buying Sudafed in large quantities and using it to make methamphetamine, as James points out.

Interestingly, since I started Rebox, my sinus problems are gone, (some sort of histamine blocking action?), but I'll have to see if this effect lasts.

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine? » Kath

Posted by Cam W. on November 19, 2000, at 23:40:49

In reply to Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds - Cam? Anyone?, posted by Kath on November 19, 2000, at 13:14:31

Kath - Here in Canada the took phenylpropanolamine off the shelf, not psuedoephedrine.

In the U.S., phenylpropanoloamine is found in diet pills and some people were taking to many of them and I believe it was causing heart irregualrities. In Canada, we don't have a prepartion that is straight phenylpropanolamine, as the products were have are cold and allergy related products.

If they ban pseudoephedrine, then we would have no decongestants to use for colds (okay, we have those crappy sprays that don't clear all sinus cavities). If this is the case, but stock in steam vaporizer companies. I doubt both would be banned so close together.

There has been one death attributed to phenylpropanolamine and this was 18 years ago. Another example of the government protecting me from myself (Hell, Dimetapp was the only thing that works for me when I have colds).

Hope this helps - Cam

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by stjames on November 20, 2000, at 1:13:10

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine? » Kath, posted by Cam W. on November 19, 2000, at 23:40:49

I think it is important to note we are talking about 2 medications
here, PPA or phenylpropanoloamine and pseudoephedrine or ephedrine.
PPA is being pulled volentarlary. No one has banned either PPA or ephedrine,
I suspect ephedrine may be pulled OTC as it is a precursor to amphetamine.
Personally I hate all the oral decongestants, they make my heart race and I climb the
wall on them. Much better is Afrin (generic is cheaper). It is a docogestant like PPA
but as a spray, applied directly to the problems areas (the nose) that lasts 12 hrs.
There is some systemic envolvment but muck less than taking something orally. Use no more than
5 days, lest you get rebound.

james

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by Noa on November 20, 2000, at 14:12:18

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine?, posted by stjames on November 20, 2000, at 1:13:10

I have heard about PPA being voluntarily withdrawn, but I have heard nothing about pseudoephedrine being pulled, and I imagine that if it were, we would be BOMBARDED with news about that, since so many OTC cold meds have it!

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by stjames on November 20, 2000, at 14:29:34

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine?, posted by Noa on November 20, 2000, at 14:12:18

> I have heard about PPA being voluntarily withdrawn, but I have heard nothing about pseudoephedrine being pulled, and I imagine that if it were, we would be BOMBARDED with news about that, since so many OTC cold meds have it!

James here.....

Noa, I don't think the DEA cares. At one point we almost lost many common herbs, do to their precursor statsis in making XTC and amphetamines.

James

james

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by Noa on November 21, 2000, at 7:53:33

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine?, posted by stjames on November 20, 2000, at 14:29:34

Perhaps the DEA doesn't care--I don't know. What I meant was if it were happening, we would be hearing about it because the companies who make all those OTC remedies would be sending out press releases left and right, don't you think?

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by LouF on November 22, 2000, at 0:20:44

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine?, posted by Noa on November 21, 2000, at 7:53:33

> Perhaps the DEA doesn't care--I don't know. What I meant was if it were happening, we would be hearing about it because the companies who make all those OTC remedies would be sending out press releases left and right, don't you think?

I'm very upset that they're pulling off phenylpropanolamine...I've used it in a prescription format with guafenisin (sp?) for at least l0 years, and have never had problems with it. I absolutely abhor pseudoephedrine and will not take it if I can help it (it makes my already fast pulse rate way too high). Will check out ephedra....but isn't it a precursor to pseudoephedrine? Without the PPA, it's an ugly sight (snot everywhere, lungs, chest, dripping) for me!

 

Re: Phenylpropanolamine?

Posted by Noa on November 22, 2000, at 14:19:45

In reply to Re: Phenylpropanolamine?, posted by LouF on November 22, 2000, at 0:20:44

Hi, LouF--nice to meet you ;0)

the one thing about epedra that worries me is that it is often sold in unregulated--nonstandard strengths, etc. so you don't always know what you are getting.

Your lovely description of the absence of PPA has just about convinced me.......

 

Re: Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds » JohnB

Posted by Lon on January 4, 2001, at 21:34:08

In reply to Re: Pseudoephedrine - sinus meds , posted by JohnB on November 19, 2000, at 14:15:10

I have just read all the posted messages regarding pseudoephedrine and also recently read that PPA is being pulled. I've used the pseudoephedrine a lot for constant sinus problems and 2 months ago I had a similar episode to a stroke with respiratory and heart problems, I've just turned 50. This really scared me, but luckily not to death. It took time to get my health back to normal, but I'm back to where I was - which was normal. None of the Dr's could tell me what happened and they knew I took sinus OTC meds. Are these 2 drugs related in the same way? I'm wondering if the pseudo could have caused my episode &/or if I can take sinus meds in the future. Help, Lon


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