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Posted by Janet on February 24, 2000, at 20:51:54
Dear Harry, how did the appt. with the psychologist go? I think you should insist on going to hospital as now seems to be a good time and it's what you want. Take Care Jan
Posted by Noa on February 24, 2000, at 22:00:37
In reply to Harry b, posted by Janet on February 24, 2000, at 20:51:54
been wondering too.
Posted by harry b. on February 25, 2000, at 0:02:25
In reply to Harry b, posted by Janet on February 24, 2000, at 20:51:54
> Dear Harry, how did the appt. with the psychologist go? I think you should insist on going to hospital as now seems to be a good time and it's what you want. Take Care Jan
Actually, not too good. He accused me of having
a big 'pity party' for myself and kept asking
what the payoff was. I realize that some form
of direct confrontation like this is a part of
therapy, but I think the timing was wrong. My
questions about hospitalization and leave of
absence from work (short term disability) were
met with vague answers, refering to lack of
social interaction and such. It seems so
frustrating. I hurt, I feel wounded, and I want
and need a safe haven for awhile.I see my pdoc on Monday. I will try to keep it
together until then. After that I will have to
make a decision.On another note, I finally called my friend this
evening. He has become someone that I do not
know. The things we had developed, trust, care,
etc, are gone. Did I tell you that he isn't/wasn't
'only' a friend? He is 30 yrs older than I am
and he is/was also my father figure for the past
10 years. My father died when I was 5yr. I admired
him and tried to emulate him. His rejection of me
is a lot more complicated than I can explain.
And this complication, my friends, happened AFTER
I had begun therapy & ADs again.Wish me well, & I truly wish the best for all of you.
harry
Posted by Phil on February 25, 2000, at 7:07:49
In reply to Re: Harry b, posted by harry b. on February 25, 2000, at 0:02:25
Harry, I used to see a psychiatrist and psychologist in the same office. Their offices were separated by the lobby. I'd see this obnoxious psychiatrist who, before even closing the door, would boom out,"HOW'S THAT PROZAC DOIN FOR YA-WISH I HAD STOCK IN THAT COMPANY".
Then I'd go see the psychologist(10 minutes later)and he'd say,"You don't need that crap(Prozac), You've just been having these pity-parties".
If I wasn't mental going in, I was mental coming out. I saw Mutt and Jeff very few times...Phil
Posted by CarolAnn on February 25, 2000, at 8:21:05
In reply to Re: Harry b, posted by Phil on February 25, 2000, at 7:07:49
Harry, I haven't posted to you before, but I've been following your story. I'm so sorry you've been having such a hard time with the hospital thing. I know you have been worried about leaving your cat, if you do go to hospital. I'm a stay-at-home mom, and if you happen to live in the Orlando, FL area, I'd be happy to "cat"sit for you. I know what it's like to be in a situation where you need support and have none. Keep posting, no matter what, because we all worry if we stop hearing from "regulars". Blessings to you! CarolAnn
Posted by Noa on February 25, 2000, at 12:52:03
In reply to Re: Harry b, posted by CarolAnn on February 25, 2000, at 8:21:05
One of the most UNempathic phrases I have ever heard, hardly appropriate for use by a therapist (unless, of course it is brought into the therapy by the client, and is a word the client finds useful).
Posted by dj on February 25, 2000, at 15:03:31
In reply to Re: Pity Party, posted by Noa on February 25, 2000, at 12:52:03
Sometimes tough love and a hard dose of reality work. It all depends on the tone of the conversation and whether the words are expressed with empathy in such a way that the recipient is open to hearing. I haven't read the rest of this thread so possibly I've missed the context. The bottom line though is as one of my wisers sister's once noted to me when I was possibly being a bit sarcastic: "I don't care what you know as long as I know that you care."
> One of the most UNempathic phrases I have ever heard, hardly appropriate for use by a therapist (unless, of course it is brought into the therapy by the client, and is a word the client finds useful).
Posted by Noa on February 26, 2000, at 12:06:34
In reply to Re: Pity Party, posted by dj on February 25, 2000, at 15:03:31
Harry, I want to reiterate, I don't think the concept of pity party is useful. It conveys the message that you are electing to be depressed and that it is fun. HAH!
I also find it surprising that your shrink would discourage your exploring hospitalization given how strong your suicidal thoughts have been and your reports that you have guns at your disposal and that you have actually taken a gun in your hand. Yikes. Here you are finally agreeing to work toward LIFE, toward keeping yourself safe, and your shrink is discouraging you from going to the hospital?????
One caviat--is it possible that when you are talking to your shrink about it, you might be idealizing what the hospital might do for you? What worries me about this is that you might be disappointed to find, surprise (I know you know this intellectually, of course) no miracles in the hospital or anywhere else, and no escape from yourself (wherever you go, there you are). BUT, what the hospital can offer is safety for a while and within that safety you might be freed up to construct some plans for ways to help yourself with your depression and loniliness.
BTW, does your shrink even know how suicidal you were?
Posted by AprilA on February 26, 2000, at 13:20:40
In reply to Re: Harry b, posted by harry b. on February 25, 2000, at 0:02:25
Hi Harry. I hope you're managing to get through the weekend. I don't agree with your therapist at all. I can't imagine any circumstances under which that comment would have been appropriate or helpful.
Do you think the medicine is having any effect at all yet?
If you are not happy with the doctor's visit on Monday would you be able to ask for a consult with someone else for a second opinion?
I'm sorry your friend didn't come through for you when you were having hard times. It really concerns me that you don't have any support. I hope you'll be able to post and let everyone here know you're still hanging on.
I wish there was something more I could do, but at least I'm sending you lots and lots of good wishes ( and greetings to the cat ) AprilA
Posted by Noa on February 27, 2000, at 10:21:43
In reply to Re: Harry b, posted by AprilA on February 26, 2000, at 13:20:40
Where are you?
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