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Posted by mystic on June 13, 2004, at 19:51:45
In reply to Re: Perfect! Sounds like I get it all!, posted by spoc on June 13, 2004, at 19:13:00
Spoc..You are ruthless...you cant have them all you know...We all need backups here...Mystic
Posted by spoc on June 13, 2004, at 20:14:49
In reply to RE::: spoc, posted by mystic on June 13, 2004, at 19:51:45
...ooooh but that Robert....! I've yet to try to peel that one off. I'm a fool for his characters who, even when they're Bad Guys, have these underlying principles and strength.
Oh my, but Vince is on right now!!! I'm two-timing! I better pay attention because he'll be phoning during the commercials (wants to discuss some twisted woman who is convinced he wants to figure her out).
Posted by karen_kay on June 13, 2004, at 22:42:44
In reply to Re: Perfect! Sounds like I get it all!, posted by spoc on June 13, 2004, at 19:13:00
SOLOMAN that is... did you ever see the episode where he bought a brand of condoms that was ribbed for her comfort, and he said he was going to turn it inside out? that was just too much! he reminds me of my old man so you can have him.
but, hands off the ones i mentioned..... you can have your deniro, your d'onofrio (though i highly suggest you give him to emmy or antigua) or who ever your heart desires. just keep your claws off my list, got it? i'm looking for a fight tonight, and i may find one if you even joke about my list.
Posted by spoc on June 14, 2004, at 8:14:24
In reply to speaking of dick... » spoc, posted by karen_kay on June 13, 2004, at 22:42:44
... you crafty under-the-radar flyer you! Almost hated to retire that title so soon, so you might want to revive it liberally (did we hear someone groan loudly just now?? ;)
OOH OOH OOOOH!!! I have some similar ones, where the context gives me immunity:
What did the fan say to the vacuum cleaner? (you s*ck)
What did the vacuum cleaner say back? (bl*w me)What did the cactuses (cacti?) say to the watermelons? (nice mel*ns)
What did the watermelons say back? (bunch of pr*cks!)....there are more, but they get worse/better, depending on how you look at it.
> SOLOMAN that is... did you ever see the episode where he bought a brand of condoms that was ribbed for her comfort, and he said he was going to turn it inside out? that was just too much! he reminds me of my old man so you can have him.
<<<< Physically or in his child-like selfishness? Ah, but it's tempered with such a unique undying devotion. And someone who is both a neurotic emotional mess yet somehow not taking any of it too seriously can really be fun. Not to mention all that goofiness, goofiness is good (but you can keep Three Stooges goofiness, I can live without that). Yes, saw that episode. How about the one where Dick has to take sensitivity training; or where Sally turns into a brooding, dark, goth rebel based on a guy she is dating...
A bevy of unique story lines. No formulas there, which I love! Used to hate the inevitable formula episode in all series where the characters had to participate in some musical talent show.
> but, hands off the ones i mentioned..... you can have your deniro, your d'onofrio (though i highly suggest you give him to emmy or antigua) or who ever your heart desires. just keep your claws off my list, got it? i'm looking for a fight tonight, and i may find one if you even joke about my list.<<<<<< I haven't reviewed your list, but from what I recall, you are QUITE safe... from me and almost everyone else in some cases (does that reduce want-a-bility factor??). But I'm so sorry I had apparently dozed off right when you needed a fight. What's my problem, we're supposed to be there for each other!
Posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 10:56:51
In reply to Sorry, posted by SandyWeb on June 7, 2004, at 11:38:32
Hi all:
I've been emailing Sandy daily the past couple of weeks. She tried to OD a couple of times, but didn't succeed. She did try again, cutting her wrists, last night. She is safely in the ER and doing okay. I spoke to her son and her Mom this morning. I couldn't stand not knowing what was going on. Since she'd given me her last name and I knew approx. where she lives in Halifax, I was able to get her phone number pretty easily!Anyway, they are waiting for a bed to open up in a local psychiatric hospital. Her family is hoping she will stay there long enough to get some longer lasting help and find some meds that work. She's a very proud, independent person and very ashamed of her situation & I'm sure would hate to know I've told everyone what happened. I say, "There but for the grace of God could go I!" We all need help some time in our lives, nothing to be ashamed of, and I hope she gets it. I hope she'll forgive me for sharing, but prayers are needed for her now :-). I'll keep you posted.
~ Lynne
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Posted by partlycloudy on June 14, 2004, at 13:33:11
In reply to Update on Sandy, posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 10:56:51
Posted by gardenergirl on June 14, 2004, at 13:57:46
In reply to Update on Sandy, posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 10:56:51
Thanks for the update. I was wondering how she was. I'm glad she is somewhere safe and hopefully will be accepting of help.
gg
Posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 14:38:36
In reply to Re: Update on Sandy **may trigger***, posted by gardenergirl on June 14, 2004, at 13:57:46
Thank you gg - I didn't even think about adding the triggering warning! I feel terrible not remembering to do that!
I'm so sorry if my post about Sandy caused anyone any ill feelings!!!
~ Lynne
Posted by gardenergirl on June 14, 2004, at 14:56:07
In reply to Re: thank you gg » gardenergirl, posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 14:38:36
'sokay. Got your back. Thanks for staying in touch with Sandy.
gg
Posted by Zena on June 14, 2004, at 15:49:14
In reply to Update on Sandy, posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 10:56:51
Lynne,
Thank you for the update on Sandy. I have been on vacation & the first thing I did when I got home was check on Sandy. When I saw she didn't post for quite sometime I got worried. I hope she gets the help she desperately needs. Please keep us posted & thanks again.
Zena
Posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 15:53:26
In reply to update on Sandy- thanks Lynne, posted by Zena on June 14, 2004, at 15:49:14
You're welcome, I'll be calling her mom again tomorrow to see how she's doing and will let you all know!
~ Lynne
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Lynne,
> Thank you for the update on Sandy. I have been on vacation & the first thing I did when I got home was check on Sandy. When I saw she didn't post for quite sometime I got worried. I hope she gets the help she desperately needs. Please keep us posted & thanks again.
> Zena
Posted by spoc on June 14, 2004, at 17:32:07
In reply to Update on Sandy, posted by LynneDa on June 14, 2004, at 10:56:51
> ... Since she'd given me her last name and I knew approx. where she lives in Halifax, I was able to get her phone number pretty easily!
>
> We all need help some time in our lives, nothing to be ashamed of, and I hope she gets it. I hope she'll forgive me for sharing, but prayers are needed for her now :-). I'll keep you posted.
>
> ~ Lynne
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Hi Lynne,I just wanted to vote for you not worrying about anything. Sandy had posted enough identifying info along the way that it was likely she could indeed be found. I think maybe that was the part of her talking that wants or knows she needs this kind of thing, as opposite of that as she may feel at other times. She seemed to want much privacy at times but the side of her that was aware that couldn't get her anywhere won out more often.
Thanks for demonstrating that exceptional compassion like yours exists! :- )
Posted by LynneDa on June 17, 2004, at 16:56:57
In reply to Re: Update on Sandy » LynneDa, posted by spoc on June 14, 2004, at 17:32:07
Thanks Zena and Spoc for your kind words!!!
She's still on a short-stay unit at a local p-hospital. I called the unit and left a message saying we're thinking about her and hope she's doing well. She didn't want to come to the phone, which I totally understood. Hopefully they'll be able to get through to her in a way that will convince her to get on a treatment plan and stick to it!
~ Lynne
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>
> I just wanted to vote for you not worrying about anything. Sandy had posted enough identifying info along the way that it was likely she could indeed be found. I think maybe that was the part of her talking that wants or knows she needs this kind of thing, as opposite of that as she may feel at other times. She seemed to want much privacy at times but the side of her that was aware that couldn't get her anywhere won out more often.
>
> Thanks for demonstrating that exceptional compassion like yours exists! :- )
>
Posted by gardenergirl on June 18, 2004, at 0:42:12
In reply to Re: Update on Sandy » spoc, posted by LynneDa on June 17, 2004, at 16:56:57
Posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
In reply to LynneDa is an angel! (nm), posted by gardenergirl on June 18, 2004, at 0:42:12
Hi everyone,
I know I promised not to post anymore, but this is not a suicidal message. *smile* I would like to thank everyone for standing by me during the past few months when I was going through one difficulty heaped upon another. You really did provide me with strength and wisdom to help me make it through to another day....even though my messages may not have conveyed that. But since I wasn't able to accept concrete help (long story about how I "tick", and I won't put you through that! Lol), we all knew that a final trigger would eventually push me over the edge. And that's exactly what happened.
I guess either PartlyCloudy or LynneDa told you that I had slit my right wrist multiple times in the early morning hours of June 14th. I had phoned the Mobile Crisis Line and they told me there wasn't much they could do because of the hour, and the next thing I remember is that I'm bleeding into the bathtub with the police banging on my apartment door. Apparently I had called 911 and hung up, but I don't remember that. In fact, I don't remember a lot about that night. Long story short, the police called the ambulance, the ER doctor committed me because he thought I would go back home and do it again, and I spent 5 days on the Short-Term Crisis Unit. I had a great team to work with me, and once I agreed to accept some help (which was a HUGE tug-of-war between my team and myself!), it has become easier to continue to accept help.
My team says that they have no doubt that I will slit my wrist again. The p-doc said that my attempts were escalating and becoming more lethal, and the next time I would die. The coping mechanisms that I've been using for the past 39 years just are not working for me anymore, so I need to find new mechanisms. I am willing to work on that. I'll be starting a 6-week Day Treatment Program in mid-August. It is a group experience, dealing with a variety of issues including relaxation, feelings, assertiveness, etc. I'm scared to death of it, but I *will* push myself. I've also been having follow-up sessions of counselling, just so I'm not left flailing on my own. My next appointment is this Thursday.
Again, thank you for believing in me and showing concern for me. I realize that my journey was rather exhausting for most of you. Like I've said before, I never would have been able to put up with someone like me....I would have been drained long before many of you were! You all have such an inner core of strength! I hope you are able to use that strength towards your own well-being. You really are all "angels".
Hugs,
Sandy
Posted by mystic on July 4, 2004, at 10:30:49
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
Sandy....Thank god you have found the help that you so desperatly needed...I pray that you will be able to get through this very difficult time and live a life that will bring you happiness..peace and joy again...We are all hoping for that for ourselves and sometimes it is very difficult but as you could see there were plenty of people that were there to help you namely Jlynne and lynda they are angels and never give up we are lucky to have them....I will continue to pray for you and your health..I and everyone else I'm sure would appreciate it greatly if you would post once in a while to let us know about your progress...Your friend Mystic
Posted by gardenergirl on July 4, 2004, at 10:38:56
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
Sandy,
I can't tell you how happy I am for you. What an ordeal you have been through. I'm so glad that you were able to make the decision to accept help. I'm so glad. It sounds like you have a good plan for recovery. I wish you all the best.((((((((((((Sandy)))))))))))))) big hugs!
Take care,
gg
Posted by partlycloudy on July 4, 2004, at 10:41:48
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
Sandy, your experiences have taught me a lot about myself. I am grateful that you let me stay in touch when you could have turned me and LynnDa away.
many hugs ((((SandyWeb))))
Posted by Simus on July 4, 2004, at 11:06:16
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
So glad to hear you are getting help. You do sound better. I know what it is like to push yourself through treatment, and I hope you hang in there.
jlynnes mother passed away, and she is out with her family right now. Tough time for her...
I believe LynneDa is on vacation for a few days.
But they will be glad to hear the news when they get back!
Posted by ghost on July 4, 2004, at 12:18:00
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
i'm proud of you for accepting help. that must've been a huge step. and i know what it's like to finally get to the point when you can't do anything more for yourself.
i hope the day program goes well-- i've heard good things about them, so i think you're doing the right thing.
be gentle with yourself and take care. please keep us posted, if you can,
ghost
Posted by trucker on July 4, 2004, at 13:14:39
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
sandy web... i am glad you are back.. we missed you and are glad you are recieveing help... we look forward to the new you as help will unveil a new healthy happy you!!!! GOD BLESS!!
trucker
Posted by SandyWeb on July 5, 2004, at 8:24:36
In reply to Re: Thank You..(Trigger), posted by trucker on July 4, 2004, at 13:14:39
Hi all,
Wow, it was so nice to see all your warm messages. I was quite hesitant about posting since I wasn't sure of the reaction I would receive. Has anyone told you lately how wonderful each and every one of you are?? Even with your own difficulties, you find the compassion to still respond in a selfless manner. I'm touched by you all.
When I begin the Day Treatment Program, maybe I'll post on the Psychology board. I know I was pretty worn out from my p-doc sessions while on the Crisis Unit, so I'm not sure if I'll have the energy to post after the Program starts. But it can't possibly be as intense as those darn meetings with my "team". I'm looking forward to the Program, though. Isn't that a change from the old "Sandra"? *smile*
I wish you all the best in your own journeys. Even with all the problems this world and our inner beings throw at us, it still is a magnificent place to be. My daughter had a squirrel running up her leg for peanuts yesterday. How can that not make you smile?
Hugs to all,
Sandy
Posted by mystic on July 5, 2004, at 13:08:52
In reply to Re: Thank You, posted by SandyWeb on July 5, 2004, at 8:24:36
Sandy...You my friend sound WONDERFUL...Well just positive and optomistic about the plan and I'm so happy for you..I knew you could do it.but it was mostly jlynne and lynda that helped the most and god bless them...
The story about your daughter was just precious and that you could be touched and feel that was wonderful also...
We love you and hope that you do keep posting and letting us know your progress you have touched our lives and even though some of us lost the way to help you it wasnt because we didnt feel you could do it...Take care sandy and best of luck ...Your friend Mystic
Posted by JohnDoenut on July 6, 2004, at 1:12:15
In reply to Thank You..(Trigger), posted by SandyWeb on July 4, 2004, at 9:02:00
> Hi everyone,
>
> I know I promised not to post anymore, but this is not a suicidal message. *smile* I would like to thank everyone for standing by me during the past few months when I was going through one difficulty heaped upon another. You really did
>This is a wonderful outcome to a series of not so happy events. I hope you to contine making progress.
I read this and I dont think you wanted to kill yourself because you are still here. I sometimes think
about killing myself but I dont think of it further
than that. I know it is an extreme expression of
deep frustration and anger etc. But I also know
that if I reached that state of mind that means
it, I would do it and that would be that. Thats
what they say, when people really want to do it,
they do.So people dont do it and get help and start to feel better. But how long does that last for?
I feel like its all some horrible dream
that cant possibly be happening and I want
to wake up from it but I cant and so called reality
is just a toy for them to control us. They "they"
try and make the illusion bearable and oh
everything will be ok when its all lies
and you just dont know how long its gonna be
before things get really out of hand.On the other hand, the human body and psyche seems to have a remarkable resilience to endure
pain and suffering and misery. Aided by drugs
that just dull it for some time. Because we were
born into the "caste" of society that doesnt
have any power or influence and cant get it and
are just pawns in some vast scheme to extract
whatever they can from the downtrodden masses. How do you overcome your genetic heritage to break out and make your own reality that works better?!
Posted by SandyWeb on July 6, 2004, at 8:06:45
In reply to Re: Thank You..(Trigger), posted by JohnDoenut on July 6, 2004, at 1:12:15
> I read this and I dont think you wanted to kill yourself because you are still here.<Oh no, John, I was perfectly willing to die that night. That being said, it also appears that I took the phone into the bathroom with me and dialed 911...of which I don't remember. And I was desparate to be dead when I heard the police pounding on my door. So even though I apparently left an opening to be "rescued", I really was trying to leave this world. I guess my conscious and subconscious had two different plans.
I think when a person finally attempts a suicide it is a last desparate cry for help. When all else fails, use a lethal means that will either take you away from it all or will demonstrate the degree of distress you are suffering in order to facilitate the offering of help (usually through being committed!). It is a LAST cry for help because you are more than willing to accept the alternative outcome of dying. And it is a DESPARATE cry for help because who is going to actually make a serious attempt on their own life unless they are overwhelmed and hopeless?
I also believe that a person doesn't just decide to kill themselves one day. I think that they have been suffering for awhile, wanting to die but just not being able to achieve that. Yes, they are not quite ready to do it yet....even though they may be talking about it and making half-hearted attempts. But one day a final trigger will arrive....and it may be a simple matter or a complex one....everybody is different. Regardless, it is the "last straw" for somebody....and that is when the point of no return is reached. It may have taken years to reach that point, or it may have taken only months. But the person finally reaches a point where the half-hearted attempts are a thing of the past, and the pain drives them to seriously attempt a suicide. For me, my thing is to cut my wrist....I would not want to die any other way. People seem to have their own ways in which they want to have the control of killing themselves....and they are not likely to attempt any other way. But with cutting your wrist, there is always the chance of being "rescued" because death is not instantaneous. Why did I call the police? I don't know. I don't know if I spoke or even when I called. I guess my subconscious, my SOUL, was not ready to give up on Sandra yet.
I've rambled enough for now. I apologize if I didn't make much sense. My brain still isn't clicking strongly yet. It's still pretty mushy from that night.
Hugs,
Sandy
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