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Posted by Simus on October 31, 2004, at 1:13:41
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 10:26:09
http://www.ohsuhealth.com/pituitary/patients/hormone.asp
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> LarLarry,
First of all, it is wonderful to hear from you again!
That site you posted started me down another path of research, and I have found much to my amazement that I fit the Cushing's Disease profile to a tee. Now I am trying to figure out if what I thought was adrenal fatigue from some unknown cause could actually be a pituitary tumor releasing too much ACTH, thereby causing adrenal problems. Does that make any sense??? Now I have a question of lesser concern, but it could be related. I have had nasal blockage to some degree my whole life. At times I can easily breath through one nostril but the other air flow through the other nostril is almost completely blocked. But then it can switch to partial restriction of air through both nostrils. Could this possibly be from a pituitary tumor pressing on the sinuses/airways?
Also, if a person has Cushing's Disease, would taking the new cortisol-restricting supplement be beneficial or harmful?
Any help would be appreciated.
Simus
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 31, 2004, at 8:21:07
In reply to Cushings??? Help! » Larry Hoover, posted by Simus on October 31, 2004, at 1:13:41
> http://www.ohsuhealth.com/pituitary/patients/hormone.asp
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> > Lar
>
> Larry,
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> First of all, it is wonderful to hear from you again!Thank you. Back with a blast, eh?
> That site you posted started me down another path of research, and I have found much to my amazement that I fit the Cushing's Disease profile to a tee. Now I am trying to figure out if what I thought was adrenal fatigue from some unknown cause could actually be a pituitary tumor releasing too much ACTH, thereby causing adrenal problems. Does that make any sense???
It makes sense all right. Pituitary problems are often first diagnosed by the patient.
If Cushing's is associated with literal adrenal fatigue (one option in your intuitive response), then it has caused your adrenals to fail from overwork. However, bizarre as it may sound, both overactive and underactive adrenals cause fatigue.
What to do about it? Work your way around that site, as it is very well put together. Pay some attention to this link:
http://www.ohsuhealth.com/pituitary/patients/find_out.asp
The first investigation needs to be cortisol monitoring, both total urinary and sequential serum levels, to check diurnal output.
> Now I have a question of lesser concern, but it could be related. I have had nasal blockage to some degree my whole life. At times I can easily breath through one nostril but the other air flow through the other nostril is almost completely blocked. But then it can switch to partial restriction of air through both nostrils. Could this possibly be from a pituitary tumor pressing on the sinuses/airways?
Very unlikely. Pituitary tumours can have effects on vision, as the pituitary is close by the optical chiasm (an X-shaped (Greek for X is chi) structure where the optic nerve crosses over to the opposite side of the brain). You probably have sinuses with poor drainage. If you get head colds from hell, you should probably see an ENT doctor.
> Also, if a person has Cushing's Disease, would taking the new cortisol-restricting supplement be beneficial or harmful?
Probably would make you feel worse, if you're thinking about using licorice, for example. The adrenals would still be pumping out hormones, and the licorice would extend their half-life, making it seem like the adrenals were releasing even more hormones than they are.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> SimusFirst bit, is to consider a well thought out plan of action. Bursting into a doctor's office with the declaration that you have Cushing's may not be met with the enthusiasm you wish to see.
I propose, to the best of your ability, to consider each of the symptoms of adrenal/pituitary dysfunction separately, and write down when the symptom started, how it affects you, how it responds to increased stress in your life, and so on. You want to paint a picture that even a dismissive doctor will have to take into account.
Also, at the outset, you must consider that you want to soon find a doctor with extensive experience in treating this disorder, if it is verified. Pituitary tumours are almost always benign (non-spreading), and tiny (seldom as big as a pea), but they are very hard to reach (just in front of a line between your ears, directly in line with the tip of your nose). And there may be non-surgical options, too.
The treatment for Cushing's can be debilitating, as the body winds down from being under ACTH stress. ACTH does more than signal the adrenals to produce hormones. It is a systemic hormone.
I'm both relieved and saddened if you have found your answer. Solving your problem is itself a problem.
If you want to bounce some ideas around, I have babblemail on. I'll give you my email address there, rather than posting it.
Good luck,
Lar
Posted by JLx on October 31, 2004, at 10:14:46
In reply to Re: licorice, DLPA » JLx, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:25:28
Posted by JLx on October 31, 2004, at 10:38:21
In reply to Re: Vitamin D » JLx, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:23:00
> > Hi Lar,
> >
> > I read the links but didn't grasp much. You did mean 4000 and not 400 I presume which is way more than we've been recommended. I've always heard 4-800 IU per day.
>
> Absolutely. I meant 4,000 IU/day. What got people looking back at vitamin D was the link between sun exposure and multiple sclerosis. The link turned out to be vitamin D. There was also a concurrent examination of the link between vitamin D and osteoporosis, and voila! they figured out that the RDA was deficient altogether. Rickets, also known as vitamin D deficiency, is on the rise in the United States. Seriously.I'd heard that! And it's outrageous, isn't it? Makes you wonder just how much some parents are paying attention.
> > Is there a preferred type? Right now I'm taking a A and D combo, from fish liver oil, of 10,000 and 400 respectively but I don't want to just take more of that, do I? And increase the Vit A by that much?
>
> No, you don't want to increase the A any more. Just add in some more D. Any type will do.
> > I'm concerned about osteoporosis as I don't drink milk any more. I also take magnesium, boron, Vit. K and only a little calcium (because it makes me crazy!) with osteoporosis in mind. My mother has it, she's in her 70's.
> >
> > JL
>
> Maybe with extra vitamin D your response to calcium will diminish.
>
> LarHmm...really? That's interesting. It's not as pronounced as it was when I first quit taking/eating so much calcium and started supplementing with magnesium, but it's still bothersome at least by supplement. Eating calcium rich foods doesn't seem to bother me.
I'm going to start adding Vit D and I'll find out. Thanks, Larry.
JL
Posted by raybakes on October 31, 2004, at 10:52:10
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » raybakes, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:10:34
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> All enzymes work equally well in both directions. The limiting factors are the relative concentrations of the raw materials and the products. Your body makes most enzymes work in one direction only by near instantaneously removing the products.
>
thanks Lar, that's exactly what Jan said! I thought there had to be specific enzymes to go one way or the other..Ray
Posted by raybakes on October 31, 2004, at 13:13:19
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » raybakes, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 11:51:21
> > I'm finding there's not enough vitamin D in fish oil for me. I use halibut oil (not sure if it's liver or not) for vitamin A, but don't know if it's any better than cod? It's the mercury and PCB content that really concerns me more than the fish.
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> No mercury in fish oils. Mercury binds to protein, and all protein is removed from fish oils of all types. PCBs and pesticides etc. may or may not be an issue. Those are fat soluble, and different brands have different amounts.
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> http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/26diox.pdf
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> http://www.fsai.ie/surveillance/food/surveillance_food_summarydioxins.asp
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>
> Oh, off topic, but dietary measures to reduce inflammatory response:
> http://www.itmonline.org/arts/lox.htm
>
Thanks Lar, it was a fish oil supplier that told me that most brands have high levels of mercury! Thanks for the article on eicosanoids too, I found it yesterday too while looking up asthma links for a friend!! The theory about aspirin intolerance and asthma increasing leukotriene synthesis was interesting - do you think that's true - I wondered whether it was due to poor sulphation?
Ray
Posted by karaS on October 31, 2004, at 13:24:47
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » karaS, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 10:28:48
> > I'm still confused about my neighbor's condition. She doesn't have adrenal fatigue symptoms at all. She's thinking possibly hyperpituitary is her real problem. Maybe she's right.
> >
> > Kara
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> Hyperpituitary syndromes are really relatively common, usually due to benign tumours.
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> Lar
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>I passed that information on to her. Thanks.
K
Posted by karaS on October 31, 2004, at 13:26:58
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » karaS, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 10:43:49
Posted by raybakes on November 1, 2004, at 6:52:57
In reply to Re: Do conversions along pathways go both ways? » raybakes, posted by tealady on October 29, 2004, at 20:50:57
> >I'm a bit confused as to the link between glutamine and glucosamine? I had a quick look and couldn't see it.
>
> OK I found it I think..top line of this
> http://www.genome.jp/kegg/pathway/map/map00251.html
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> so that kinda has something to do with G6PD(or something close) I think?
>
Hi Jan, not sure if it's directly anything to do with G6PD but i'm more interested in it as part of of the extracellular matrix, to help with my gut wall. Also came across this when looking up something to send you...Recombinant human TSH is glycosylated with mannose, N-acetylglucosamine, fucose, galactose, and NANA.84 Higher levels of NANA confer longer circulatory life.84 Carbohydrate removal impairs TSH bioactivity.84 Patients with hypothyroidism have TSH with more NANA relative to sulfation.37 Patients with idiopathic central hypothyroidism have glycosylation changes in their serum TSH.85
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H286Bve glycosylation changes in their serum TSH.85It seems that TSH needs four saccharides attached for it to function efficiently - I wonder if TSH can rise to counter a saccharide deficiency?
What did you think about the ideas to do with nitrates, and sulphites and vasodilation? (acetylcholine/vaspressin thread)
Ray
Posted by JLx on November 1, 2004, at 17:32:49
In reply to Re: Vitamin D » JLx, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:23:00
> > Hi Lar,
> >
> > I read the links but didn't grasp much. You did mean 4000 and not 400 I presume which is way more than we've been recommended. I've always heard 4-800 IU per day.
>
> Absolutely. I meant 4,000 IU/day. What got people looking back at vitamin D was the link between sun exposure and multiple sclerosis. The link turned out to be vitamin D. There was also a concurrent examination of the link between vitamin D and osteoporosis, and voila! they figured out that the RDA was deficient altogether. Rickets, also known as vitamin D deficiency, is on the rise in the United States. Seriously.
>
> >
> > Is there a preferred type? Right now I'm taking a A and D combo, from fish liver oil, of 10,000 and 400 respectively but I don't want to just take more of that, do I? And increase the Vit A by that much?
>
> No, you don't want to increase the A any more. Just add in some more D. Any type will do.
>
> > I'm concerned about osteoporosis as I don't drink milk any more. I also take magnesium, boron, Vit. K and only a little calcium (because it makes me crazy!) with osteoporosis in mind. My mother has it, she's in her 70's.
> >
> > JL
>
> Maybe with extra vitamin D your response to calcium will diminish.
>
> LarI was so intrigued by your 4000 IU recommendation that I did a lot of looking around and started a board on Vit D and depression. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20041022/msgs/410247.html I hope you will check it out. Maybe you can answer my question on there as to why sunlight Vit D isn't toxic, but supplemental is -- assuming it is -- when it's the same kind, or is it?
JL
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 2, 2004, at 8:56:07
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » Larry Hoover, posted by raybakes on October 31, 2004, at 13:13:19
> Thanks Lar, it was a fish oil supplier that told me that most brands have high levels of mercury!
I could show you test results, where a dozen brands were tested independently, and no detectable mercury was found (at ppb detection).
> Thanks for the article on eicosanoids too, I found it yesterday too while looking up asthma links for a friend!! The theory about aspirin intolerance and asthma increasing leukotriene synthesis was interesting - do you think that's true - I wondered whether it was due to poor sulphation?
>
> RayRefresh my brain, Ray? Which article was that? I've got too many threads in my brain to keep track of it all.
BTW, google has a new program, in beta release. It's called desktop google. It searches on your own computer, using the google search engine. You'll never "lose" something again. It will remember every site you've visited, and what you looked at, as well as what you saved, or sent by email, etc. Just google "desktop google".
OK, at least that's the press blurb. I just installed it, and it takes a while to index everything before it's "set up" to search. Sounds excellento, though.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 2, 2004, at 9:03:40
In reply to Re: Vitamin D » Larry Hoover, posted by JLx on November 1, 2004, at 17:32:49
> I was so intrigued by your 4000 IU recommendation that I did a lot of looking around and started a board on Vit D and depression. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20041022/msgs/410247.html I hope you will check it out. Maybe you can answer my question on there as to why sunlight Vit D isn't toxic, but supplemental is -- assuming it is -- when it's the same kind, or is it?
>
> JLYou're good. Scary good. I'll just make a summary statement here, but the 4000 IU recommendation is based on solid research, and it's quite a new finding. It takes a while for the facts to filter through into what we know.
I think the oral toxicity of vitamin D is related to the bolus effect. What that is is the huge serum concentration spike that comes from uptake across the gut wall. Vitamin D synthesized in skin trickles out into the blood, via diffusion. The total amount made from acute sun exposure is not just suddenly dumped into the blood. It's the essence of a timed-release vitamin D repository.
Did you catch note of the positive effects arising from a single oral dose of 100,000 IU? I recall seeing that last night, as I was skimming. It gives one pause, with respect to oral toxicity.
Lar
Posted by JLx on November 2, 2004, at 9:33:24
In reply to Re: Vitamin D » JLx, posted by Larry Hoover on November 2, 2004, at 9:03:40
> > I was so intrigued by your 4000 IU recommendation that I did a lot of looking around and started a board on Vit D and depression. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20041022/msgs/410247.html I hope you will check it out. Maybe you can answer my question on there as to why sunlight Vit D isn't toxic, but supplemental is -- assuming it is -- when it's the same kind, or is it?
> >
> > JL
>
> You're good. Scary good.Thanks, Larry. That means a lot coming from you! :) I'm going to answer you on the other board, hope you don't mind.
JL
Posted by karaS on November 2, 2004, at 18:10:42
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » raybakes, posted by Larry Hoover on November 2, 2004, at 8:56:07
> > Thanks Lar, it was a fish oil supplier that told me that most brands have high levels of mercury!
>
> I could show you test results, where a dozen brands were tested independently, and no detectable mercury was found (at ppb detection).
>
> > Thanks for the article on eicosanoids too, I found it yesterday too while looking up asthma links for a friend!! The theory about aspirin intolerance and asthma increasing leukotriene synthesis was interesting - do you think that's true - I wondered whether it was due to poor sulphation?
> >
> > Ray
>
> Refresh my brain, Ray? Which article was that? I've got too many threads in my brain to keep track of it all.
>
> BTW, google has a new program, in beta release. It's called desktop google. It searches on your own computer, using the google search engine. You'll never "lose" something again. It will remember every site you've visited, and what you looked at, as well as what you saved, or sent by email, etc. Just google "desktop google".
>
> OK, at least that's the press blurb. I just installed it, and it takes a while to index everything before it's "set up" to search. Sounds excellento, though.
>
> Lar
>The best search engine is Copernic. I believe it is from the UK. You can download it for free (although there are fancier versions if you want to pay for them). It keeps your searches, it validates them to see if the links are still good along with some other bells and whistles. It culls from many other search engines (it shows you which ones) and provides you with the best reponses. You get about 40 links rather than 40,000 of them. Of course some of these links are phony sales pitches - but they have to pay for it somehow! All in all, it's definitely worth it. There are some instances where Google is better but most of the time this one is. You can download it at Copernic.com.
Posted by Simus on November 3, 2004, at 2:14:53
In reply to Re: Excuse me for elbowing my way in here.......... » Larry Hoover, posted by TeeJay on October 30, 2004, at 21:03:35
> I feel worse if I take a B100 supplement for example
Me too.
> Seems to me the more I experiment, the more confused I get!!!
Me too.
> Thanks anyway LAr........and nice to see your brain is back in top gear again :-)Me too.
Simus
Posted by raybakes on November 3, 2004, at 13:10:09
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » raybakes, posted by Simus on October 29, 2004, at 16:08:42
> Thanks, Ray. By the way, you say "a supplement is given". How is it given? I assume that you don't ingest it, or you could only do one test a day. So do you put it under your tongue, hold it against your skin...?
>
Hi Simus,The supplements are initially held against the body, or near to it - frequently biochemical markers (homeopathic) are used to diagnose a biochemical block. If homocysteine gave a positive muscle response (arm goes strong) then what would then make the arm go weak would help clear homocysteine - so folate, B12, betaine, niacinamide, B2, B6 or methionine, individually or in combination would be a good bet!
The person would then take the supplements once the testing had been completed.
Hope that's not too confusing!
Ray
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 4, 2004, at 9:39:35
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » Larry Hoover, posted by karaS on November 2, 2004, at 18:10:42
> > BTW, google has a new program, in beta release. It's called desktop google. It searches on your own computer, using the google search engine. You'll never "lose" something again. It will remember every site you've visited, and what you looked at, as well as what you saved, or sent by email, etc. Just google "desktop google".
> >
> > OK, at least that's the press blurb. I just installed it, and it takes a while to index everything before it's "set up" to search. Sounds excellento, though.
> >
> > LarUpdate on desktop google.....It caused Adobe to be unable to load inside IE, and that cause IE to crash. I'm in discussion with their tech support. At least they seem serious about trying to fix this bug.
Otherwise, it is a superb tool, so far.
>
> The best search engine is Copernic. I believe it is from the UK. You can download it for free (although there are fancier versions if you want to pay for them). It keeps your searches, it validates them to see if the links are still good along with some other bells and whistles. It culls from many other search engines (it shows you which ones) and provides you with the best reponses. You get about 40 links rather than 40,000 of them. Of course some of these links are phony sales pitches - but they have to pay for it somehow! All in all, it's definitely worth it. There are some instances where Google is better but most of the time this one is. You can download it at Copernic.com.Now you done it. And you were keeping this a secret? I already was a research addict. Now, how am I going to find time for food? Eh?
Lar
Posted by KaraS on November 4, 2004, at 14:01:58
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » karaS, posted by Larry Hoover on November 4, 2004, at 9:39:35
> > > BTW, google has a new program, in beta release. It's called desktop google. It searches on your own computer, using the google search engine. You'll never "lose" something again. It will remember every site you've visited, and what you looked at, as well as what you saved, or sent by email, etc. Just google "desktop google".
> > >
> > > OK, at least that's the press blurb. I just installed it, and it takes a while to index everything before it's "set up" to search. Sounds excellento, though.
> > >
> > > Lar
>
> Update on desktop google.....It caused Adobe to be unable to load inside IE, and that cause IE to crash. I'm in discussion with their tech support. At least they seem serious about trying to fix this bug.
>
> Otherwise, it is a superb tool, so far.
>
> >
> > The best search engine is Copernic. I believe it is from the UK. You can download it for free (although there are fancier versions if you want to pay for them). It keeps your searches, it validates them to see if the links are still good along with some other bells and whistles. It culls from many other search engines (it shows you which ones) and provides you with the best reponses. You get about 40 links rather than 40,000 of them. Of course some of these links are phony sales pitches - but they have to pay for it somehow! All in all, it's definitely worth it. There are some instances where Google is better but most of the time this one is. You can download it at Copernic.com.
>
> Now you done it. And you were keeping this a secret? I already was a research addict. Now, how am I going to find time for food? Eh?
>
> Lar
Well, maybe it will speed up your search time so you have more time for food. But don't waste too much time on food - you have to cure us all, you know!Let me know what you think of Copernic.
K
Posted by Jonathan on November 4, 2004, at 23:40:40
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on November 4, 2004, at 14:01:58
Scirus - http://www.scirus.com - is owned by the publisher Elsevier, so of course all Elsevier journals are exhaustively indexed, but it also covers at least abstracts (from Medline) of other publishers' journals, together with university and other relevant web-sites, including Psycho-Babble.
You can compare it against Google at
http://www.extranet.elsevier.com/listman/BMN/none.htm
Searching for "lithium orotate" (in the hope of avoiding a thread-killing redirect), Google found 3310 hits whilst Scirus found 118, of which 51 are journal references and the other 67 are web-sites. A feature I particularly like is that Scirus suggests a list of keywords for further refining the search: for "lithium orotate" it lists 16 including alcoholism, bipolar, carbonate, kava kava, magnesium, male (but not female!), mood swings, potassium orotate and stress relief.
Thanks, Kara, for posting about Copernic. It looks interesting but I haven't yet used it long enough to offer any useful feedback. The tracker looks useful; a few years ago I made frequent use of a similar service called Netmind, which is no longer available. Unfortunately the free version of Copernic Tracker is only a 30-day trial.
Jonathan.
Posted by KaraS on November 6, 2004, at 19:09:34
In reply to Good engine for scientific searches » Larry Hoover » KaraS, posted by Jonathan on November 4, 2004, at 23:40:40
> Scirus - http://www.scirus.com - is owned by the publisher Elsevier, so of course all Elsevier journals are exhaustively indexed, but it also covers at least abstracts (from Medline) of other publishers' journals, together with university and other relevant web-sites, including Psycho-Babble.
>
> You can compare it against Google at
>
> http://www.extranet.elsevier.com/listman/BMN/none.htm
>
> Searching for "lithium orotate" (in the hope of avoiding a thread-killing redirect), Google found 3310 hits whilst Scirus found 118, of which 51 are journal references and the other 67 are web-sites. A feature I particularly like is that Scirus suggests a list of keywords for further refining the search: for "lithium orotate" it lists 16 including alcoholism, bipolar, carbonate, kava kava, magnesium, male (but not female!), mood swings, potassium orotate and stress relief.
>
> Thanks, Kara, for posting about Copernic. It looks interesting but I haven't yet used it long enough to offer any useful feedback. The tracker looks useful; a few years ago I made frequent use of a similar service called Netmind, which is no longer available. Unfortunately the free version of Copernic Tracker is only a 30-day trial.
>
> Jonathan.
>Wow! That looks great, Jonathan! I've bookmarked it and I'll definitely be checking it out.
Thanks,
Kara
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2004, at 11:11:50
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on November 4, 2004, at 14:01:58
> Well, maybe it will speed up your search time so you have more time for food. But don't waste too much time on food - you have to cure us all, you know!
>
> Let me know what you think of Copernic.
>
> KCure? I get more interaction if I keep you sick.
One flaw with Copernic is that it doesn't cache links. If they don't work, at least with google you have the cache version.
Still want to play some more before I make up my mind.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2004, at 11:12:56
In reply to Good engine for scientific searches » Larry Hoover » KaraS, posted by Jonathan on November 4, 2004, at 23:40:40
Posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 14:35:57
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2004, at 11:11:50
> > Well, maybe it will speed up your search time so you have more time for food. But don't waste too much time on food - you have to cure us all, you know!
> >
> > Let me know what you think of Copernic.
> >
> > K
>
> Cure? I get more interaction if I keep you sick.
>> One flaw with Copernic is that it doesn't cache links. If they don't work, at least with google you have the cache version.
>By "cache" links, do you mean "validate" them? - because Copernic does that. You validate the entire search and it gets rid of the ones with links that don't work or are not longer valid.
> Still want to play some more before I make up my mind.
>
> Lar
>
Posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 22:21:05
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2004, at 11:11:50
> Cure? I get more interaction if I keep you sick.
You are pure evil!
> One flaw with Copernic is that it doesn't cache links. If they don't work, at least with google you have the cache version.Maybe you mean to store the links? If so, I think they do have that. Anyway, I've used this for a few years now and it's been the best up until now. Maybe the new Google version will be better.
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 8, 2004, at 7:55:50
In reply to Re: The Best Search Engine! » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 22:21:05
> > Cure? I get more interaction if I keep you sick.
>
> You are pure evil!I have a sick sense of humour.
> > One flaw with Copernic is that it doesn't cache links. If they don't work, at least with google you have the cache version.
>
> Maybe you mean to store the links? If so, I think they do have that. Anyway, I've used this for a few years now and it's been the best up until now. Maybe the new Google version will be better.What I meant is that if Google finds a link, and you try it and it fails, you can select "Cached", at the end of the little quoted blurb, and you'll be taken to Google's stored version of the dead link. The cached version is sometimes better, if it's a lengthy page, as the search terms are highlighted. Embedded links still work, etc.
I've only used Copernic a couple times. I haven't yet done a head-to-head comparison.
Lar
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