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Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:29:20
In reply to Lar, can you comment on Robot's question above? (nm) » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:24:44
Oops, you must have been replying to him as I was typing that...
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:32:07
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:24:34
> > You definitely sound better and on the road to recovery. Have you ever considered taking probiotics or triphala?
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> What can you tell me about triphala?
Not that much. Just what I've read on iHerb.com's website and the fact that my friend is taking it now and thinks that it's helping her.
One of her traditional doctors (a gastroenterologist) is of Indian descent and he recommended it to her.Here's a blurb from iHerb:
"Planetary Formulas Triphala Internal Cleanser is a potent yet gentle formula, designed to support the body's natural cleansing process. It has been one of the most important formulas of Ayurvedic herbalism for thousands of years. Triphala is a balanced blend of three Indian herbal fruits: harada, amla, and behada. This formula is unique in that the astringent qualities of the fruits serve to tonify the colon, thereby promoting internal cleansing naturally."
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> > P.S. We should call over and make sure Larry and his girlfriend save us some space. If not, we could always ask them later at night when we're camped out with our sleeping bags in their hotel room!
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> I think that might be pushing the hospitality a tad. ;-)
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> Lar
>Oh, some people just don't know the meaning of sharing...
-K
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:33:15
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:45:45
> > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
For reals? Does she read and post here too?
Posted by gabbix2 on August 14, 2004, at 20:11:47
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:45:45
> > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
Gee she sounds like a real gem.
And word has it she's super-babe of the universe too. : )
Posted by Simus on August 14, 2004, at 23:45:35
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 13:25:02
> > No problem. Larry's coming back today??? You don't think he will read all those posts, do you? ***blush***
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> > Simus
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> Every one. ;-)Lar,
Thanks for being a good sport. Good to have you back!
Simus
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:48:42
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:33:15
> > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> For reals? Does she read and post here too?Maybe. :-p
She loves that *I* do, and loves me more for doing it.
Lar
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:49:19
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by gabbix2 on August 14, 2004, at 20:11:47
> > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> Gee she sounds like a real gem.
> And word has it she's super-babe of the universe too. : )
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>How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too? Geez, everyone was there but me!
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:50:53
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:48:42
> > > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> > For reals? Does she read and post here too?
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> Maybe. :-p
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> She loves that *I* do, and loves me more for doing it.
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> Lar
>Hmmmm, now I'm thinking who else hasn't been posting for a couple of weeks.... I'm such a busybody!
-K
Posted by gabbix2 on August 15, 2004, at 20:10:40
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:49:19
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> How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too?No, I wasn't in the Alps ; )
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 21:54:04
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by gabbix2 on August 15, 2004, at 20:10:40
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> > How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too?
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> No, I wasn't in the Alps ; )
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>Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
Posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 21:54:04
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> Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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Posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 14:20:56
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
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> > Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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> >ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Oh, geez....
Posted by Simus on August 16, 2004, at 17:04:11
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
> > Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
NO!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO, LARRY!Simus
P.S. You and Kara are too funny!
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:46:16
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
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> > Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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>I take it that's a "yes"?
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:52:18
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » gabbix2, posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 14:20:56
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> > Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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> ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
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> Oh, geez....
I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!P.S. I have some Spock ears I could sell him for a really good price.
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 17, 2004, at 7:55:37
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:52:18
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> > Oh, geez....
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> I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!Rolling On The Floor Laughing (My A@# Off)
> P.S. I have some Spock ears I could sell him for a really good price.
>Don't be appealling so to my Scot's heritage, 'kay? I may not need them for anything, but that "really good price" got my attention.
Lar
Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 16:23:34
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 17, 2004, at 7:55:37
>I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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> Rolling On The Floor Laughing (My A@# Off)
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Makes a lot more sense than "Rounding out the Top Five List with Monoamine Oxidase" (Yet another sign I'm spending too much time on Psycho-Babble!)
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:06:33
In reply to Re: ROTFLMAO!!! » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 16:23:34
> >I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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> > Rolling On The Floor Laughing (My A@# Off)
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> Makes a lot more sense than "Rounding out the Top Five List with Monoamine Oxidase" (Yet another sign I'm spending too much time on Psycho-Babble!)
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HA!!! Kara, you are something else! ;)Simus
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:17:48
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:15:08
> One simple test of adrenal stress is to try some licorice. Do not use DGL, though. That is De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice. Glycyrrhizin is the compound that blocks the enzyme that activates cortisol. I'll snip from an unreferenced source...."Glycyrrhetinic acid, a metabolite of glycyrrhizin, inhibits the renal conversion of cortisol to cortisone by inhibiting the enzyme 11 beta-hydroxysteroiddehydrogenase in the kidney." Cortisol is "potential cortisone", in the sense that circulating cortisol levels tell the hypothalamus that the adrenal glands are functioning up to par. By inhibiting conversion to cortisone, you not only reduce stress response, you also trick the hypothalamus into giving the adrenals a little holiday, by inhibiting the CRH cascade. Don't take licorice for more than four weeks. It can lead to other disturbances.
Larry,
If I took licorice, what would I be looking for as proof that I do indeed have adrenal stress? Just more energy or feeling better overall? Or is there something more specific?
Thanks,
Simus
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:21:37
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:55:59
> By way of anecdote, my trial last spring of Enada NADH (along with additional niacinamide) not only provided me with unprecedented energy and resiliency, but my allergies were virtually absent. I typically require double-doses of allergy meds, along with inhaled steroids, just to remain functional. But not during that trial.
What is Enada NADH???
Simus
Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 22:29:20
In reply to Re: ROTFLMAO!!! » KaraS, posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:06:33
Simus,
So good to see you posting again. I honestly thought that my list had scared you away.
What day is your doctor's appointment?
Kara
Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 22:33:48
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying, posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:21:37
> > By way of anecdote, my trial last spring of Enada NADH (along with additional niacinamide) not only provided me with unprecedented energy and resiliency, but my allergies were virtually absent. I typically require double-doses of allergy meds, along with inhaled steroids, just to remain functional. But not during that trial.
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> What is Enada NADH???
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> Simus
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Until Larry can add more, you might want to check out this link. (It's short.)
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 23:37:59
In reply to Re: ROTFLMAO!!! » Simus, posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 22:29:20
> Simus,
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> So good to see you posting again. I honestly thought that my list had scared you away.
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> What day is your doctor's appointment?
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> KaraSorry. I had house guests for a while. I tried to make an appointment today but I had an old phone number that is no longer in use. I will try again tomorrow armed with the right number.
Simus
P.S. I read all the posts. Thanks for the laughs! (HA!!! Who else but you would come up with such a bizarre meaning for ROTFLMAO???)
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 23:41:33
In reply to Re: NADH » Simus, posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 22:33:48
> > > By way of anecdote, my trial last spring of Enada NADH (along with additional niacinamide) not only provided me with unprecedented energy and resiliency, but my allergies were virtually absent. I typically require double-doses of allergy meds, along with inhaled steroids, just to remain functional. But not during that trial.
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> > What is Enada NADH???
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> Until Larry can add more, you might want to check out this link. (It's short.)
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> http://healthinfo.healthgate.com/GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21810
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Wow. Almost sounds too good to be true. Sorry to sound ignorant, but would this be in the same family as co-Q10?Simus
Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 23:53:33
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 17, 2004, at 7:55:37
This long, long post has come full circle now (back to the original topic) and is still going strong. I wonder if it's one of the longest ever on Psycho-Babble. I think there should be prizes for such an accomplishment. (How about it, Dr. Bob?)
Please, Don Pardo, tell us what we've won!
But seriously now, I am struggling here to get the motivation and the focus to work on a spreadsheet for my temp job. I'm embarrassed that it's taking so long but I'm having the hardest time doing it.
I need to get more functional and fast!! I need to start treating the brain fog and the adrenal fatigue quickly. (There are some questions coming, I promise.) I've been reading that book on adrenal fatigue, the article Larry recommended on it, lots of posts etc. on treatment of depression, a Dr. Pall article on supplements for mental conditions and I've come up with a list of supplements and meds. The adrenal fatigue sources advise lots of supplements. I'm overwhelmed by the list and I can't afford to take all of them anyway. I need to select some and devise a program for myself.
Larry, if you were in my situation and you had limited funds, which of the following would you choose to take for motivation, focus and adrenal fatigue?
Ginkgo
SJW (Jarrow formula - no more Perika)
selegiline
DLPA
tyrosine
TMG and B12
Enada NADH
green tea extract
picamilon
Coenzyme Q10
ALA
NAC
DMAE
ALC
phosphatydlserine
piracetam or pramiracetam
hydergine
centrophenoxine
digestive enzymes
quercetin/bromelain (I know it overlaps but I
already have some of this at home.)
licorice and/or other adaptogen
green drink (with tons of antioxidants)
probiotics (Enzymatic Therapy pearls)I'm going to add exercise and and some cognitive therapy (jouraling).
It's not my thyroid. I'm on the right amount of hormone for that.
I've probably forgotten a bunch of things. Keep in mind that I already have at home now quite a bit of DMAE, selegiline, Jarrow SJW, NAC, tyrosine, B12, quercetin/bromelain, Enzymatic Therapy Pearls, maca and a little bit of ALC, ALA and picamilon.
I know that it's impossible to give me a quick answer that's going to take away all of my depression and functionality problems - but I want one nonetheless. Seriously, what seems like a reasonable approach to begin making me functional again?
- Desperate in LA
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