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Posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 1:16:34
In reply to Again, deign???? Snort! » dispatcher, posted by gardenergirl on June 11, 2007, at 17:34:46
... please, please think some things over, at least for the sake of your clients....
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/relate/20070210/msgs/761685.html
"...One of my biggest biggest issues, maybe even THE biggest is fear of rejection. This involves fear of being judged or criticized or that I've disappointed someone or made them mad or whatever. Any hint of any of that, real or projected, and I equate that somehow with rejection. Then I feel hurt and/or angry. Or I totally freeze and do nothing to avoid the possibility. Not a very adaptive style..."
Please also consider if that fits in with this (statement that I personally believe could be fairly considered a) platitude:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20070605/msgs/762419.html
"...Um, and I believe you meant, "I feel offended when blah blah blah?" Because otherwise, well, that would be as if someone else were causing your feelings of offense, and of course that's impossible, you know."
(This is NOT in any way a complaint about either of the above posts, so did not call for use of the "notify" button instead.)
Posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 8:23:46
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » gardenergirl, posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 1:16:34
in complete seriousness and concern for Babble, i would have never ventured past my original posts, but i received my third rude babblemail from someone here and i'm afraid to say that it put me over the edge. so, instead of "flight", i chose "fight"........
can't see that it did very many people any good and if i offended any friends, it is my "fight" coming out. and i apologize if you were upset over my quarrelsome posts.
there are times when enough is enough and the babblemail did it for me.
and there was a statement made that "we all know what you're doing here" yesterday (jumping to conclusions or a hell of a good student) and it didn't get a PBC.......and that along with several other statements could have received a PBC. oh well, we all know what works here. xoxox pat
Posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 8:47:28
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » confuzyq, posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 8:23:46
>
> and there was a statement made that "we all know what you're doing here" yesterdayYou might want to try reading that again. There's nothing anywhere I can see that states what you quoted. Though of course I may have missed it elsewhere.
What I *did* express was acknowledgment of your courage of convictions in expressing what you mean regardless of the consequences. I actually think this is honorable, though I didn't express that directly.
gg
Posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 8:47:34
In reply to Gardener Girl, Yes., posted by susan47 on June 11, 2007, at 23:45:44
> Deign, darling. As in one of The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary's definitions, "Treat as worthy of, dignify with" therefore, when I say I have a hard time believing anyone would think what I have to say as being worthy of offending anyone, when you and others here do it so extremely well (so much better, in fact, than I would ever deign to) under your thinly veiled disguise of "civility".
> I don't understand why you think that was worth a "Snort" although it is quite in character with your personality .. of course, this is just my opinion and only that. I could be wrong, and goodness knows I've been wrong before.
keep writing.............xoxoxo pat
Posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 8:50:28
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » fayeroe, posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 8:47:28
> >
> > and there was a statement made that "we all know what you're doing here" yesterday
>
> You might want to try reading that again. There's nothing anywhere I can see that states what you quoted. Though of course I may have missed it elsewhere.
>
> What I *did* express was acknowledgment of your courage of convictions in expressing what you mean regardless of the consequences. I actually think this is honorable, though I didn't express that directly.
>
> ggi feel that my actions are honorable. rarely needed any reassurance of that. i don't skirt around the issues nor do i hide behind the "civility" "rules" here.
and this is the last word i have to say on this mess. as i said before, if i offended any of my friends by getting down in the trenches, i apologize to them.
Posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 9:18:26
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » gardenergirl, posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 1:16:34
Thanks for your concern, and given your "please please", you sound quite concerned. I admit though I haven't been able to figure out the connection you suggest between something I posted for support and my work.
>
> "...Um, and I believe you meant, "I feel offended when blah blah blah?" Because otherwise, well, that would be as if someone else were causing your feelings of offense, and of course that's impossible, you know."Actually, the first part of that quoted section is a restatement that could be used in response to a "Please rephrase". The second part, starting with "Because" goes on to describe what meaning the sentence structure the other poster used conveys and the difficulty I have with that concept. Perhaps it's that second part you consider to be a platitude. I believe it depends on the usage, but it certainly could be viewed as such.
I'm totally lost, however, on how the trait I described in the first post you cite relates to discussing what another poster's words convey and the problem I have with that message. And I'm completely flummoxed on how that might relate to working with clients. Do folks here think that the gg they see here is the only gg there is? Is it assumed that the gg one sees here is the gg who is sitting across from a client? I might actually be speechless if that's true.
Thanks for your thoughts and feedback on this. Please feel free to babblemail or email me to discuss this in more depth if you wish.
gg
Posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 13:20:26
In reply to Re: should be offended, posted by fayeroe on June 11, 2007, at 20:28:54
Hmm, I dunno if fayeroe's real name is Pat or not, but gg - if it is - then pray tell, what is yours??
I hope you are as comfortable using YOUR first name as you are about using others!!!
Posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 13:22:26
In reply to Please be civil » dispatcher, posted by Racer on June 11, 2007, at 17:33:06
that some other posts have not received the same attentive treatment to civility guidelines as mine have.
But thanks for your concern.
It's quite amazing.
Posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 13:27:08
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » confuzyq, posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 8:23:46
I so enjoy your posts and your spirit. Wanted you to know that I wasn't alluding to anything about you or any of your posts, in mine. That part was a second thought, to make a contrast. An attempt to illustrate that it's a lot harder to truly embrace and feel more peaceful through the "...no one else can *make* you feel anything" philosophy than was being held out as so obvious and simple.
(Hmmm, would there even be any movies we'd want to see, or books we'd want to read, if everyone became aware that no one can make them feel anything?? Ok just being silly there. And will skip expanding on my thoughts about that philosophy. Wasn't supposed to be my centerpiece.)
The first part of my post, which I thought tied in in a way, was my take on the possible bottom line to some accelerating...freedoms around here lately. An "nm" smiley to sleepygirl's "nm" post title may have accomplished more than I ended up being able to!
Sorry that my post ended up being unclear. Again, I always enjoy reading what you have to say.
OH! Speaking of possible mixups, want to make sure no one out there got the idea that it was me who wrote Fayeroe the babblemails she referred to.
Best,
confuzQ
> in complete seriousness and concern for Babble, i would have never ventured past my original posts, but i received my third rude babblemail from someone here and i'm afraid to say that it put me over the edge. so, instead of "flight", i chose "fight"........
>
> can't see that it did very many people any good and if i offended any friends, it is my "fight" coming out. and i apologize if you were upset over my quarrelsome posts.
>
> there are times when enough is enough and the babblemail did it for me.
>
> and there was a statement made that "we all know what you're doing here" yesterday (jumping to conclusions or a hell of a good student) and it didn't get a PBC.......and that along with several other statements could have received a PBC. oh well, we all know what works here. xoxox pat
Posted by greywolf on June 12, 2007, at 13:59:54
In reply to Re: About the writing board » gardenergirl, posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2007, at 22:19:18
I read threads like this, and then I go away for a few days or weeks.
Take care.
Greywolf
Posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 14:05:42
In reply to Re: About the writing board, posted by greywolf on June 12, 2007, at 13:59:54
> I read threads like this, and then I go away for a few days or weeks.
>
> Take care.
>
> Greywolf
Well, if you look - Greywolf and Phillippa & whoever else, a reference was also made to someone who goes to "Chat" in babble - so this definitely falls outside of *just* creative writing and venting.It speaks about a unspecified poster who is fairly easy to discern.
Not one post even got a PBC.
Posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 14:14:09
In reply to Re: About the writing board, posted by greywolf on June 12, 2007, at 13:59:54
I regret any part of your leaving that is from my actions, especially because you're one that I highly respect. Someone leaving after reading my recent posts is a cost that I admit didn't occur to me. I want to thank you for calling my attention to the affect my bratty bitchiness can have on those not directly involved in the dialog. (And thanks to the friends who expressed similar sentiments last night.) I apologize to you and to anyone else who has been hurt or offended by my recent posts. Clearly the costs outweigh any fleeting benefits I may have experienced, and I'm sorry.
Take care,
gg
Posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 14:18:49
In reply to I'm sorry » greywolf, posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 14:14:09
>>>affect my bratty bitchiness
Did you bypass the automatic asteriking????
Please don't use language that could be considered offensive to others.
Dispatcher,
acting as a concerned poster of babbleland
Posted by Happyflower on June 12, 2007, at 14:44:28
In reply to *trigger* because they might talking about you!, posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 14:05:42
>>
> Well, if you look - Greywolf and Phillippa & whoever else, a reference was also made to someone who goes to "Chat" in babble - so this definitely falls outside of *just* creative writing and venting.
>
> It speaks about a unspecified poster who is fairly easy to discern.
>
> Not one post even got a PBC.Am I suppose to be the f*ck you fairy ? If I am who you are talking about? Are these posts suppose to be funny? Thanks for bringing this out, I didn't see the post orginally. I am hurt if it was me or anyone else for that matter.
Posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 15:14:52
In reply to Re: No no, not what I meant! » fayeroe, posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 13:27:08
Posted by Sigismund on June 12, 2007, at 18:49:45
In reply to I'm sorry » greywolf, posted by gardenergirl on June 12, 2007, at 14:14:09
I'm not remotely offended but the kinds of communication on Admin seem so adversarial and unlikely to achieve resolution that I wonder what the point is.
Posted by susan47 on June 12, 2007, at 20:13:30
In reply to Re: About the writing board, posted by greywolf on June 12, 2007, at 13:59:54
Posted by fayeroe on June 12, 2007, at 20:28:40
In reply to Greywolf: I go away Forever. Me, too .. Ciao. (nm), posted by susan47 on June 12, 2007, at 20:13:30
i'm sorry to see you go. ca sera, sera........whatever will be, will be. xoxoxo
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:02:31
In reply to Re: About the writing board, posted by greywolf on June 12, 2007, at 13:59:54
I appreciate your comments very much.
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:06:15
In reply to Re: I'm sorry - » gardenergirl, posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 14:18:49
or email Dr. Bob directly.
You might also wish to use the spell check at the bottom of this page. Dr. Bob apparently uses the same source in his autoasterisking and the word in question is ok per his guidelines.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:10:59
In reply to posting private info is OK?, posted by dispatcher on June 12, 2007, at 13:20:26
I've seen several posts on this page where the poster uses her first name in signature. That's also happened on other boards with many posters, and it is not uncommon for people to reply in the same vein.
If you believe this standard practice should be changed, please bring it up without reference to any particular post as a proposed rule change.
And again, in this and in several other posts, please use the notify the administrators function, or contact Dr. Bob directly if your concern involves a current deputy.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:16:21
In reply to Re: In complete seriousness and concern... » gardenergirl, posted by confuzyq on June 12, 2007, at 1:16:34
> ... please, please think some things over, at least for the sake of your clients....
> Please also consider if that fits in with this (statement that I personally believe could be fairly considered a) platitude:
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:19:18
In reply to Gardener Girl, Yes., posted by susan47 on June 11, 2007, at 23:45:44
> Deign, darling. As in one of The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary's definitions, "Treat as worthy of, dignify with" therefore, when I say I have a hard time believing anyone would think what I have to say as being worthy of offending anyone, when you and others here do it so extremely well (so much better, in fact, than I would ever deign to) under your thinly veiled disguise of "civility".
Please don't post anything that could lead another poster to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:22:53
In reply to Re: About the writing board, posted by dispatcher on June 11, 2007, at 8:24:32
> which means that you can write all kinds of nasty stuff on here about other posters, as long as it's *seemingly* cleverly veiled in creative writing - right gg?
>
> Some folks seem to have perfected that -Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on June 13, 2007, at 8:24:58
In reply to Holy Sarcasm Fest Batman!! (nm), posted by sleepygirl on June 11, 2007, at 21:55:06
Rather than comment about the civility of posts on board.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
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