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Posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 13:11:24
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by All Done on December 8, 2004, at 0:56:28
I liked it very much. I didn't think it was disrespectful.
It reminds me of the young Jung with his rock
'am I sitting on the rock or is someone sitting on me'.
Thats what you get from reading too many 'beginners guides to _____'
Posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36
In reply to I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob?, posted by Jai Narayan on December 7, 2004, at 21:35:36
Wow and ouch. I thought me calling him a troll was pretty stinky, but this is....[insert PBC here].
IMO - Using pretty words to say cruel things does not make them any less cruel.
emmy
Posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 19:21:47
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36
I thought it portrayed him as sweet and curious - there was an undertone of warning about the dangerously addictive nature of computing... but I didn't take it to be cruel at all.
I do agree, however, that it would be inappropriate to speculate about the childhood of the average poster here (unless you were sure they could appreciate your intentions) - but Dr. Bob is nearer the healthy end of the spectrum so I am sure he can handle it!
Posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 1:23:25
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » TofuEmmy, posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 19:21:47
> Dr. Bob is nearer the healthy end of the spectrum
He is?
Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » alexandra_k, posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 1:23:25
now now :-)
I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:47
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06
Thanks!
Posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 15:44:33
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06
> now now :-)
>
> I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
> If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.Oh, I wasn't saying he is or isn't nearer the healthy end of the spectrum, Alexandra. My point is just that I don't know and I'm guessing, unless a poster has a personal relationship with Dr. Bob, that none of us know. Just as we don't know the level of mental illness, if there is any, of any given poster unless they have told us, which I don't believe Dr. Bob has (correct me if I'm wrong, though).
That said, I believe all posts should remain civil no matter who the post is directed to or about.
Kind of a moot point, though, since we don't agree on the civility of the original post. Sometimes I just like to hear myself think, I guess :).
Take care,
Laurie
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2004, at 17:13:37
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06
> I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
> If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.I encourage conflict, dissent, and negotiation across the leader-members boundary. I'd rather it didn't get *too* hot, of course...
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 17:51:30
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all, posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2004, at 17:13:37
'encourage' now, I thought you preferred 'accept'???!!
I thought it was playful teasing,
Not malice or cruel
Just MHO
I don't think Jai has a nasty bone in her body.:-)
Posted by All Done on December 10, 2004, at 0:25:13
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 17:51:30
> I don't think Jai has a nasty bone in her body.
Just to be clear, neither do I.I was just questioning the civility of her words. I wasn't judging her character or intent.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2004, at 0:48:47
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » alexandra_k, posted by All Done on December 10, 2004, at 0:25:13
I apologise if it sounded like I was accusing you of judging Jai's intentions.
I do think that intentions come to bear on the civility of words, however...
But I also take your point.
Posted by Jai Narayan on December 11, 2004, at 20:19:37
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2004, at 0:48:47
Hi, I have just gotten back to babble.
My week was way too filled with a local fire.
I have gotten side tracked.
Dr. Bob I am so sorry if my little story has offended you.
I had no intent to do so.
I rather like Dr. Bob.
I would never want to hurt him.
I thought it would amuse him.
so All Done....
I am so sorry if it hurt your feelings.
Now that wouldn't make me happy.
Or you tofu emmy....
I am not into making you-all feel bad.
I was being silly and letting my mind drift into the imagination to make up a story of why I would be in his shoes.
a total projection.
I watched the ants as a child and was totally facinated.
So my story did not stimulate other stories....
oh well.Slinky....
where are you when I need you?
Jai
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 20:21:21
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all, posted by Jai Narayan on December 11, 2004, at 20:19:37
Hi Jai, glad to hear from you. I liked your story :-)
Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 20:29:24
In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36
It didn't come across to me as cruel at all,
I thought it was a whimsical story like Ferdinand the Bull who was always off sniffing the flowers.
I know Jai's always made a point of saying really nice things about Dr. Bob on admin too unlike say.. me, so perhaps that made me see it differently too.
Posted by Atticus on December 11, 2004, at 20:38:06
In reply to wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 20:29:24
I'd say I thought it was sweet, too, but coming from me, I figure Dr. Bob would then decide there MUST be something offensive hidden in it. ;) Atticus
Posted by TofuEmmy on December 11, 2004, at 22:32:07
In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » Gabbix2, posted by Atticus on December 11, 2004, at 20:38:06
Just shows to go ya, we all interpret art differently. For example:
Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 22:40:09
In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!, posted by TofuEmmy on December 11, 2004, at 22:32:07
I don't think we interpreted the entire text differently. I specifically took one passage from the whole which I saw as dark humor, yes, at other times I find the same selection poignant, the rest of the piece I spoke with Jai about in an e-mail, and I mentioned that when I'm my most upset my humor still finds it way out.
It's impossible for me to see how the whole work could be seen as funny, it was simply the passage I chose to focus on.
Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 23:38:50
In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » TofuEmmy, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 22:40:09
I suppose if it was offensive that I pointed out that I found the lines about inhaling a missing cat darkly humorous in an otherwise serious and painful piece, I apologize. I won't apologize for finding it funny though, life is painful and funny simultaneously, it just didn't occur to me that prose shouldn't be.
Posted by Jai Narayan on December 12, 2004, at 8:26:19
In reply to However...TofuEmmy, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 23:38:50
I have a fascination with things that disappear.
One minute they are whole the next they are gone.
My art revolves around that magical, mysterious fact.Imagine everything you own gone in an afternoon.
The tenants stood watching their possessions go up in smoke.
My mind asks "how is that possible?"I am not offended by you seeing humor in my piece.
I chuckled when you pointed it out in your comment.
Jai
Posted by Gabbix2 on December 12, 2004, at 10:26:10
In reply to gabbix2, posted by Jai Narayan on December 12, 2004, at 8:26:19
> I have a fascination with things that disappear.
> One minute they are whole the next they are gone.
> My art revolves around that magical, mysterious fact.This should be on writing, but oh well,
Yes, the first time I read it, I saw it as just plain funny, but the next day, I thought about it more which is what good writing does, and then it became more poignant, all these important things.. vaporized, as you said.
It was brilliant though, I think, really brilliant that it could go from absurd to mystical to melancholy that one paragraph.But thank you so much for letting me know that you weren't suprised, or offended that I found it darkly comical.
Posted by All Done on December 13, 2004, at 3:13:29
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all, posted by Jai Narayan on December 11, 2004, at 20:19:37
> Hi, I have just gotten back to babble.
> My week was way too filled with a local fire.
> I have gotten side tracked.I'm very sorry to hear that, Jai. I hope you are doing okay.
> Dr. Bob I am so sorry if my little story has offended you.
> I had no intent to do so.
> I rather like Dr. Bob.
> I would never want to hurt him.
> I thought it would amuse him.Perhaps it did.
> so All Done....
> I am so sorry if it hurt your feelings.
> Now that wouldn't make me happy.You didn't hurt my feelings. And I don't want you to be unhappy. I just thought there might have been the potential to hurt another's feelings. Had it been written about me, my own history would have made your words hurt and since I don't know Dr. Bob's history, well...let me stop there.
BTW, my T tells me I tend to try and mother him. I think I do this with many people. Maybe unfortunately for Dr. Bob, he was my latest "offspring" :).
Thanks for the nice post, Jai. I know you didn't mean any harm.
Laurie, trying to protect the world
Posted by Jai Narayan on December 13, 2004, at 22:12:43
In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » Jai Narayan, posted by All Done on December 13, 2004, at 3:13:29
Everybody needs a good mother. I would love to be harbored under your wing.
thank you for being so kind.
I love Dr. Bob too.
Jai
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 27, 2004, at 22:10:02
In reply to Re: a more democratic structure?, posted by Dr. Bob on December 7, 2004, at 3:54:48
> I've also been thinking about automated asterisking. Maybe it could be an option? So people could turn it off -- but then not be warned before being blocked...
OK, let's give this a try. It should be working now. Sorry about all the testing I had to do... To turn it off, there's a new setting:
http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/settings.pl
Any questions? I hope this helps!
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on December 27, 2004, at 22:22:46
In reply to Re: automatic asterisking, posted by Dr. Bob on December 27, 2004, at 22:10:02
Posted by alexandra_k on December 27, 2004, at 22:30:09
In reply to It is tempting to see what we can get away with... (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on December 27, 2004, at 22:22:46
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