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Posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 18:01:23
In reply to Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DR-WB » NikkiT2, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:35:18
Lou, there is a principal in law called "man on the street". Or, there is the old adage, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....or the story of the judge who said, "I can't define pornography but I know it when I see it"....
Most reasonable people, I believe, would be able to see that you did not just dream up the names you used and that they bear enough resemblance to names of posters as to be referring to them in an indirect way.
When you deny that responsibility, you lose credibility with me. I can't speak for others.
Do you want to be a part of this community and to retain some credibility and good will in this community? I think you actually do. I don't know. That is just my intuition.
If you do want to interact with this community in a way where people will want to have civil discourse with you, then please take some advice from our reactions to your posts.
Posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 18:03:13
In reply to Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-4YON, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 11:56:47
Lou, for my part, for once I would be able to answer one of your multiple choices:
If you were asking me, I would say the answer is B--you are accused of acting innocent.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 19:48:31
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DR-WB, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 18:01:23
noa,
You wrote,[...most reasonable people...would say that you did not dream up the names...they referr to posters in an indirect way...]
I disagree with you on that, for to make that conclusion, one would have to sample a great amount of reasonable people and that has not been done. There could be differant opinions based on other factors and you have not included that the names were in a hypothetical example and that the posters were not real. Drippy2 has no resemblance to any poster here unless ther is a poster here with extreme sinus problems. ObstreporusTex is a cantankerous Texan that doesn't listen to anybody, hence he is obstreporous, and I know of no counterpart here. Weirdedbeardo is a man that was caught with another girl and his girlfriend seen them, hence he had seenus trouble. I know of no counterpart here. Boozmzn was a person at the Kentucky Derby that was interested in getting bourbon while he was there. I know of no counterpart here. If 10,000 reasomable men were given the opportunuty to know all of the facts to determine your conclusion, perhaps the conclusion would be differant from yours.
Lou
Posted by IsoM on April 15, 2003, at 0:48:30
In reply to Lou's respomse to noa's post-QAK » noa, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 19:48:31
Posted by Rach on April 15, 2003, at 3:24:21
In reply to Do You Really Think You're Proving Anything? (nm) » Lou Pilder, posted by IsoM on April 15, 2003, at 0:48:30
If Loo Piddler went up to NobleT2 and babbled on about how he considers proposed policies to be unsound mental health practices, but the input from the posters suggests discussion has a better intention, would he be classified as uncivil?
Would 10 times in a row classify him as uncivil?
Please note:
As feelings are internally generated, I do not feel I am responsible for anyone else's reaction -- for their reaction could be irrational in respect to the subject at hand.Now, if the aforementioned Piddler could match up the right frontal lobe with less hypothetical white matter, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 6:56:46
In reply to Do You Really Think You're Proving Anything? (nm) » Lou Pilder, posted by IsoM on April 15, 2003, at 0:48:30
IsoM,
You wrote,[...do you really think you are proving anything?...].
Could you clarify what it is that you observe that could have promted you to ask me that? If you could clarify that, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Best wishes,
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 7:03:30
In reply to Oh dear..., posted by Rach on April 15, 2003, at 3:24:21
Rach,
You wrote,[...if the...Piddler could...match up frontal lobe...less white matter...then I could respond acordingly...].
I am always open to provide any clarification so that the opportunity to respond is made available. Could you write what you would request from me so that you could repond accordingly? If you could, then we could have a disscussion about the topic that you are addressing.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 8:50:05
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DR-WB, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 18:01:23
noa,
You wrote,[...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...].
Are you saying that your statement here about the duck could be completed to include,[...it is a duck...]?
If you are, then if we examine my post in question , you will see that there is not a duck in the post.
Could you clarify what it was that caused you to write the duck analogy? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by tina on April 15, 2003, at 10:10:16
In reply to Lou's response to Rach's post » Rach, posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 7:03:30
> Rach,
> You wrote,[...if the...Piddler could...match up frontal lobe...less white matter...then I could respond acordingly...].
> I am always open to provide any clarification so that the opportunity to respond is made available. Could you write what you would request from me so that you could repond accordingly? If you could, then we could have a disscussion about the topic that you are addressing.
> Lou
>Why would you assume that Rach was asking YOU anything? Did you think that 'the piddler" could possible be you? If that's so, then you should be able to see that YOUR use of "fictitious" names in YOUR posts such as Drippy2 could be seen as a reference to existing posters.
give it up Lou
later......much much later..........God, I swore I wouldn't ever address any of Lou's posts. But I just can't supress the urge to point out hypocrisy.
Posted by tina on April 15, 2003, at 10:11:16
In reply to Oh dear..., posted by Rach on April 15, 2003, at 3:24:21
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 10:15:59
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DR-WB, posted by noa on April 14, 2003, at 18:01:23
noa,
You wrote,[...when you deny that responsibility...do you want to be a part of this community...?...then take some advice from our reactions to your post...]]
Are you saying that:
I must accept the accusations made to me here, that I consider to be false and defaming to me, as a condition to be a member of this community?
Are you the same noa that has posted what I consider to be defaming remarks directed to me on the 2000 board that OddipusRex has posted on this board? If so, could you explain how people that make those type of remarks could be considered to be members of this community that [...have credibility and good will...]? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by noa on April 15, 2003, at 11:47:44
In reply to Lou's respomse to noa's post-COND » noa, posted by Lou Pilder on April 15, 2003, at 10:15:59
Lou, I wrote the remark that O.R. reported below. Here is the entire sentence:
"I really do have this idea that Lou's brain is locked in the loops of neverending detail, and he can't help it."
I take full responsibility for it. But I did not intend it to be defaming.
I meant it to express an impression, my very own, internally generated, that your posts have given me. It is merely an impression. I thought that sharing it with a poster who is angry at you might help them to be a bit more forgiving of you and to disengage from being hostile toward you. I am sorry if you received it as defaming. It was simply an honest reflection of an impression I have developed from your posts.
I apologize for any hurt I might have caused you.
I will not post to you or about you any more.
And, I request that you not direct any further posts to me, nor post about me.
Thank you.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 13:31:42
In reply to Lou's respomse to noa's post-QAK » noa, posted by Lou Pilder on April 14, 2003, at 19:48:31
> Drippy2 has no resemblance to any poster here unless ther is a poster here with extreme sinus problems...
Sorry, but I just asked you not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, so I'm going to block you from posting again. Last time it was for 8 weeks, so this time it's for 16.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 13:39:18
In reply to Re: Lou's response to Rach's post » Lou Pilder, posted by tina on April 15, 2003, at 10:10:16
> Now, if the aforementioned Piddler could match up the right frontal lobe with less hypothetical white matter, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
>
> Rach> But I just can't supress the urge to point out hypocrisy.
>
> tinaPlease be sensitive to the feelings of others and don't post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down, thanks.
Bob
Posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 14:49:21
In reply to Re: please be civil » Rach » tina, posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2003, at 13:39:18
There goes Bob.
Once again.
But it's never worked before.
Do you really think they're going to like you now and be good compliant passive posters? Do you really think it will make you popular with the posters for very long?
I don't think many people will respect your decisions. At least not for long.
I feel sorry for you Bob. And I don't mean that as a put down. You must not have much of a life yourself if you can devote so many hours to PB.
I absolutely do not give anyone permission to post anything about me after I am gone. Please respect my privacy.Best Wishes
Posted by Dinah on April 15, 2003, at 20:08:49
In reply to I WOULD BE HONORED TO BE BLOCKED » Dr. Bob, posted by OddipusRex on April 15, 2003, at 14:49:21
Gone? Oddipus, admittedly my mind is not at a hundred percent, and reading posts is difficult at the moment, but why would you be gone? Lou did persist in doing the very thing Dr. Bob asked him not to do, and as you know, that's a surefire method to get yourself a discplinary action.
Of course, I may be completely off base here, and I may have missed something completely.
I can't quite imagine you getting blocked though, Oddipus. I suspect civility is a point of honor with you, and has nothing to do with Dr. Bob's rules.
Posted by shar on April 16, 2003, at 23:32:10
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM, posted by NikkiT2 on April 14, 2003, at 10:51:22
> You can never simply reply with one post, but, take this thread as an example, you go over and over the same things time and time again. People are just pushed to the edge of distraction by you.
Nikki--
Resistance is futile. The only way to win is not to play.Shar
P.S. Anyone that can name the movies those two lines are from wins a new screen name!
Posted by IsoM on April 17, 2003, at 1:00:41
In reply to Re: Lou's response to NikkiT2's post-DPTM » NikkiT2, posted by shar on April 16, 2003, at 23:32:10
I can't resist - first one is from Star Trek's "First Contact" & the other one is from "War Games". C'mon, you gotta make them tougher. So what's my new name now?
Posted by leeran on April 17, 2003, at 1:10:44
In reply to Re: two movies... » shar, posted by IsoM on April 17, 2003, at 1:00:41
I know this might get booted somewhere else. The Psycho-babblefilm board? The HollywoodBabble-on board? But I just couldn't resist throwing out a movie line challenge in response to "c'mon, you gotta make them tougher"
Here goes -
One of my all time favorite movie lines:
"Faye, is this corn hand shucked?"
(By the way, the mythical prize is three turtle doves, two french hens and a "please be civil" in a pear tree).
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2003, at 11:14:02
In reply to Re: two movies... » IsoM, posted by leeran on April 17, 2003, at 1:10:44
> I know this might get booted somewhere else. The Psycho-babblefilm board? The HollywoodBabble-on board?
How about plain old Psycho-Social-Babble? Thanks. :-)
Bob
Posted by Oddipus Rex on April 17, 2003, at 20:27:01
In reply to Re: I WOULD BE HONORED TO BE BLOCKED » OddipusRex, posted by Dinah on April 15, 2003, at 20:08:49
I do try to behave myself but I have no idea what the rules are anymore. Thanks for posting. You always make me feel so much better.
> Gone? Oddipus, admittedly my mind is not at a hundred percent, and reading posts is difficult at the moment, but why would you be gone? Lou did persist in doing the very thing Dr. Bob asked him not to do, and as you know, that's a surefire method to get yourself a discplinary action.
>
> Of course, I may be completely off base here, and I may have missed something completely.
>
> I can't quite imagine you getting blocked though, Oddipus. I suspect civility is a point of honor with you, and has nothing to do with Dr. Bob's rules.
>
Posted by Dinah on April 17, 2003, at 21:14:40
In reply to How in the naughty place do I know what's civil? » Dinah, posted by Oddipus Rex on April 17, 2003, at 20:27:01
It was the length of time. I'll agree with you there. Dr. Bob often adjusts the length of time in the direction of mercy, it's been ages and ages since Lou has gotten a PBC since he tries very hard to stay within the guidelines, and his offense wasn't worthy of such an extended block. A simple two week block would have suited my idea of justice better. The block itself didn't surprise me, because if Dr. Bob tells you not to do something, and you turn right around and do it immediately, you're gonna get blocked.
But it was within the scope of his power, so I don't feel I can be righteously angry over it. It just wasn't his most merciful decision.
Posted by jane d on April 17, 2003, at 22:14:15
In reply to How in the naughty place do I know what's civil? » Dinah, posted by Oddipus Rex on April 17, 2003, at 20:27:01
> I do try to behave myself but I have no idea what the rules are anymore.
What seems to work for me is just going with the stated rules and warnings on specific posts. I do not assume that every post that doesn't get a warning is civil any more than I assume that all the people around me driving 75 mph means that the state speed limit has been revoked and that I can go as fast as I like without a ticket. If in doubt, kindness is almost always civil, being witty or winning the exchange may not be.
Jane
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2003, at 23:45:43
In reply to Redirect: two movies..., posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2003, at 11:14:02
> > I know this might get booted somewhere else. The Psycho-babblefilm board? The HollywoodBabble-on board?
>
> How about plain old Psycho-Social-Babble? Thanks. :-)Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030414/msgs/220189.html
Bob
Posted by Dinah on April 18, 2003, at 7:55:21
In reply to How in the naughty place do I know what's civil? » Dinah, posted by Oddipus Rex on April 17, 2003, at 20:27:01
Oddipus, I admire and respect you as much as I can admire and respect anyone.
When I was in middle school, and became the targeted picked on kid, I hated my tormentors with all the passion my young heart could muster.
But I hated those who found virtue in staying out of it, those who saw what was happening and said nothing, nearly as much. I had always, *always* stuck up for those being picked on for the entire six years of my social existence. And when it came time that I needed defending there was no one there. Some kids quietly let me sit with them, invited me to their parties, accepted me as a friend, and I am grateful to those kids. But not one single solitary &*%$*! soul said one word when those bullies descended on me. And I hated them for it.
Now you, Oddipus dear, would have said something. And you do say something. And I love you for it.
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