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Re: Beware the troll Lou Pilder » SLS

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 14:46:19

In reply to Re: Beware the troll Lou Pilder » J Kelly, posted by SLS on March 9, 2016, at 14:39:19


> I think the best thing to do is to ignore trolls as much as possible, except to monitor their interactions with new posters.
>
> Can you think of anything to add?

Nope. I think that's it in a nutshell.


>
>
> - Scott
>

 

Re: Be not deceived. » J Kelly

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 15:09:54

In reply to Re: Be not deceived. » SLS, posted by J Kelly on March 8, 2016, at 16:16:46


> > "New posters are a favorite target for our troll. Most of us already know our troll very well, and do not often satisfy his pathological needs. This is not true of first-time posters who are often desperate, distraught and vulnerable to being upset. They are usually dissuaded from continuing to post here as they are seeking refuge. New posters are easily harmed by the troll."
>
> This does bother me.
>
> Jade

It is absolutely verifiable and without question that Lou targets the most vulnerable of all, the newbies in crisis. There is a clear pattern.

Lar

 

Re: Beware the troll Lou Pilder » SLS

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 15:13:37

In reply to Re: Beware the troll Lou Pilder » J Kelly, posted by SLS on March 9, 2016, at 14:39:19


> I think the best thing to do is to ignore trolls as much as possible, except to monitor their interactions with new posters.
>
> Can you think of anything to add?
>
>
> - Scott

Actually there is one more thing. Sick mind often does not know it is sick. We are never going to talk the troll out of his psychosis. We are never going to show him the error of his ways. Unless he gets help, he is what he is. IMHO.

Jade

 

Re: Be not deceived. » Larry Hoover

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 15:20:16

In reply to Re: Be not deceived. » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 15:09:54

>
> > > "New posters are a favorite target for our troll. Most of us already know our troll very well, and do not often satisfy his pathological needs. This is not true of first-time posters who are often desperate, distraught and vulnerable to being upset. They are usually dissuaded from continuing to post here as they are seeking refuge. New posters are easily harmed by the troll."
> >
> > This does bother me.
> >
> > Jade
>
> It is absolutely verifiable and without question that Lou targets the most vulnerable of all, the newbies in crisis. There is a clear pattern.
>
> Lar
>
>

I believe you. And I agree with Scott.
Ignore Ignore Ignore. Intervene when it involves a new poster.

Jade

 

Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 17:38:36

In reply to Re: being led falsely » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 9, 2016, at 12:45:56

> > You see, although the poster did not use any anti-Semitic epithets toward me, I am being a target of hate that is allowed by him. This is a historical tactic to harm Jews when the Jewish member is allowed by the others to have harm inflicted upon him all against the laws of the community. This shows a contempt for the Jewish person in that he is denied the equal protection of the laws.
>
> Lou, Mr Hsiung isn't allowing or disallowing anything at this point. The board is un-moderated. Before he stopped moderating, he made it clear in several posts that he was letting you continue to post despite (1) repeatedly accusing others of anti-Semitism, which could lead them to feel put down, and (2) making extreme over-generalizations about the side effects of medications, which could lead others to draw incorrect conclusions. Mr Hsiung also ignored many requests to stop you from posting from others that object to the nature of your posts. So where you see persecution, you could instead see tolerance.
>
> > And worse, the policy of using the notification procedure is also denied to me so that those that post such hate here can continue to do it, for my notifications go un responded to.
>
> Do you miss Dr Bob? I do.
>
> > But it is much worse than that. For children reading here could be led to their deaths by thinking that a psychiatrist thinks that his community will be bettered by him allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish
>
> Yikes. Children will be led to their deaths? Do you really think the conversation here has that much power?
>
> > which could give some readers a false mind-set of superiority that could be transferred into megalomania from the drugs that they are seriously misled to believe here that they are safer than they really are.
>
> Megalomania from drugs? Wow. I read the product inserts of all the drugs I take, and I have never seen a warning about megalomania. How often do you think that occurs?

T,
Megalomania is not a condition listed in the DMV. It is an outgrowth of mania that can be induced into a person that has been given feelings of superiority. In particular those taking psychotropic drugs. Here, feelings of superiority can be infused into readers here by the nature that Mr. Hsiung allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive. The statements also can arouse superiority feelings in Christendom people as he allows,[...No non-Christian will...which is analogous to, [...no Jew will...] or, [...only Christians will...]which insults all those that have in their faith that they can enter heaven without being a Christian, to stand without his tag line to be civil as just one example.
The statement insults Judaism which is one way anti-Semitism is created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung as he can control what is supportive or not to be seen by readers. Christians seeing that on drugs here could be shifted into mania and megalomania as their feeling of superiority could be put into them by Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic statement to be seen as supportive. The statement degrades Jews and others and could gather many readers to be in concert with Mr. Hsiung and those deputies that also allowed the statement to stand.
As to how many people, I have seen this happen many times to people that are exposed to statements like that, and coming from here where a psychiatrist allows it, could be a powerful influence to vulnerable people to commit mass-murder.
Lou

 

Crap-o-meter

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 17:49:57

In reply to Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 17:38:36

I just realized something. I wasn't taking a moral high ground by refusing to read the troll's
posts. Its that when I try, my crap-o-meter goes so far off the charts I simply can't get through it. Seriously.

 

Lou's reply-

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 18:13:21

In reply to Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 17:38:36

> > > You see, although the poster did not use any anti-Semitic epithets toward me, I am being a target of hate that is allowed by him. This is a historical tactic to harm Jews when the Jewish member is allowed by the others to have harm inflicted upon him all against the laws of the community. This shows a contempt for the Jewish person in that he is denied the equal protection of the laws.
> >
> > Lou, Mr Hsiung isn't allowing or disallowing anything at this point. The board is un-moderated. Before he stopped moderating, he made it clear in several posts that he was letting you continue to post despite (1) repeatedly accusing others of anti-Semitism, which could lead them to feel put down, and (2) making extreme over-generalizations about the side effects of medications, which could lead others to draw incorrect conclusions. Mr Hsiung also ignored many requests to stop you from posting from others that object to the nature of your posts. So where you see persecution, you could instead see tolerance.
> >
> > > And worse, the policy of using the notification procedure is also denied to me so that those that post such hate here can continue to do it, for my notifications go un responded to.
> >
> > Do you miss Dr Bob? I do.
> >
> > > But it is much worse than that. For children reading here could be led to their deaths by thinking that a psychiatrist thinks that his community will be bettered by him allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish
> >
> > Yikes. Children will be led to their deaths? Do you really think the conversation here has that much power?
> >
> > > which could give some readers a false mind-set of superiority that could be transferred into megalomania from the drugs that they are seriously misled to believe here that they are safer than they really are.
> >
> > Megalomania from drugs? Wow. I read the product inserts of all the drugs I take, and I have never seen a warning about megalomania. How often do you think that occurs?
>
> T,
> Megalomania is not a condition listed in the DMV. It is an outgrowth of mania that can be induced into a person that has been given feelings of superiority. In particular those taking psychotropic drugs. Here, feelings of superiority can be infused into readers here by the nature that Mr. Hsiung allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive. The statements also can arouse superiority feelings in Christendom people as he allows,[...No non-Christian will...which is analogous to, [...no Jew will...] or, [...only Christians will...]which insults all those that have in their faith that they can enter heaven without being a Christian, to stand without his tag line to be civil as just one example.
> The statement insults Judaism which is one way anti-Semitism is created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung as he can control what is supportive or not to be seen by readers. Christians seeing that on drugs here could be shifted into mania and megalomania as their feeling of superiority could be put into them by Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic statement to be seen as supportive. The statement degrades Jews and others and could gather many readers to be in concert with Mr. Hsiung and those deputies that also allowed the statement to stand.
> As to how many people, I have seen this happen many times to people that are exposed to statements like that, and coming from here where a psychiatrist allows it, could be a powerful influence to vulnerable people to commit mass-murder.
> Lou

Friends,
Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community by allowing the community to be against the Jew, which is what anti-Semitism is. The community could be against whatever the Jew does or his perspective or anything else. This gives the non-Jews in the community feelings of superiority that are false, but never the less, the feelings can cause them to be controlled by them when they are taking mind-altering drugs as those here write defamation against me here with impunity. You could also be caught up into the frenzy in particular when Mr. Hsiung's big guns, Scott and Larry Hoover, are leading the mob.
Here is another group that has superiority feelings and using the Jews to commit mass-murder
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jxS5YhaOtc

 

Re: Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority

Posted by Fiftylager1 on March 9, 2016, at 18:17:57

In reply to Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 17:38:36

What does being Jewish have to do with my post? I'm an atheist because I dont believe any God would torture me with this life. Why don't you just start your own post on being Jewish and anti semitism and how people are being poisoned with medication etc. We're all being poisoned. It's in our food, in the air, in the water etc. I have a mental illness. Stopping medication or finding God isn't going to help me. Maybe if I was in full blow mania or psychosis I would believe that. I'm just really friggen depressed and know that if stopped my meds and don't pursue more treatment I'll end up dead. So I'll choose to take poison, nerve agents whatever crap you spewed out so maybe I'll live to see my teens graduate from highschool. Take the record off the player. The copy and paste is your favourite tool but if you encourage people to follow your f*ck*d up messages you may as well consider yourself a murderer. You're one sick prick for loading these boards with your crap when sick people are looking for help. Clearly your getting some sick thrill out of what your doing. I can only imagine where your hand is as you read this and start hitting copy and paste to reply.

 

Re: crap-o-meter

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 18:20:55

In reply to Lou's reply-, posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 18:13:21

>You could also be caught up into the frenzy in particular when Mr. Hsiung's big guns, Scott and Larry Hoover, are leading the mob.

Hahaha

I'm sorry but this guy cracks me up.

 

Lou's reply-wichwun

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 19:11:09

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority, posted by Fiftylager1 on March 9, 2016, at 18:17:57

> What does being Jewish have to do with my post? I'm an atheist because I dont believe any God would torture me with this life. Why don't you just start your own post on being Jewish and anti semitism and how people are being poisoned with medication etc. We're all being poisoned. It's in our food, in the air, in the water etc. I have a mental illness. Stopping medication or finding God isn't going to help me. Maybe if I was in full blow mania or psychosis I would believe that. I'm just really friggen depressed and know that if stopped my meds and don't pursue more treatment I'll end up dead. So I'll choose to take poison, nerve agents whatever crap you spewed out so maybe I'll live to see my teens graduate from highschool. Take the record off the player. The copy and paste is your favourite tool but if you encourage people to follow your f*ck*d up messages you may as well consider yourself a murderer. You're one sick prick for loading these boards with your crap when sick people are looking for help. Clearly your getting some sick thrill out of what your doing. I can only imagine where your hand is as you read this and start hitting copy and paste to reply.

F-l,
Which messages are F-D up?
Lou

 

Re: new poster » Lou Pilder

Posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 19:23:15

In reply to Lou's reply-wichwun, posted by Lou Pilder on March 9, 2016, at 19:11:09


>
> F-l,
> Which messages are F-D up?
> Lou

Don't go there Lou.

 

Hear! Hear! Bravo! (nm) » Fiftylager1

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:29:03

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-megalomania induced by superiority, posted by Fiftylager1 on March 9, 2016, at 18:17:57

 

Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter, posted by J Kelly on March 9, 2016, at 18:20:55

> >You could also be caught up into the frenzy in particular when Mr. Hsiung's big guns, Scott and Larry Hoover, are leading the mob.
>
> Hahaha
>
> I'm sorry but this guy cracks me up.

I'm a big gun now? LOL. I have the same problem you do, JK. I just can't wade through all the crap, all of the time. I had missed that line.

I know you're relatively new here, JK, but I consider myself something of a Psychobabble graduate. I went through some incredibly difficult times for about a decade (and I may have inadvertently imposed on others here, in times of personal distress), but this place saved me. I learned things about myself, about how to cope, that I would otherwise not have learned. Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment. I owe a debt of gratitude to Psychobabble, and especially its members, for that opportunity.

I left here, years ago, because of Lou. He made my blood boil (and Dr. Bob's tolerance of Lou was a close second, in that regard). I came back a few years later, and I left again, because of Lou. I can handle him, now.

Lar

 

Re: crap-o-meter » Larry Hoover

Posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2016, at 22:41:46

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

> I'm a big gun now? LOL. I have the same problem you do, JK. I just can't wade through all the crap, all of the time. I had missed that line.
>
> I know you're relatively new here, JK, but I consider myself something of a Psychobabble graduate. I went through some incredibly difficult times for about a decade (and I may have inadvertently imposed on others here, in times of personal distress), but this place saved me. I learned things about myself, about how to cope, that I would otherwise not have learned. Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment. I owe a debt of gratitude to Psychobabble, and especially its members, for that opportunity.
>
> I left here, years ago, because of Lou. He made my blood boil (and Dr. Bob's tolerance of Lou was a close second, in that regard). I came back a few years later, and I left again, because of Lou. I can handle him, now.
>
> Lar
>

Larry,

I just wanted to say that I find what you wrote here to be inspiring and admirable. Not only do I think that your story gives hope to others who might currently be struggling with a mental health condition or some other problem that's difficult to manage (and I still consider myself among those who are struggling, even though my level of well being is sometimes acceptable), but I also admire your expression of gratitude for the help and support that you've received that's helped you to get to the point that you're at today. Perhaps you might look at yourself as being a "graduate" of the forums here on Psycho-Babble, but even though I don't think I've interacted with you much if at all up to this point, I'm glad that you're here to share your story (and your expertise) with those of us who might see ourselves as being in the beginning stages of reinventing ourselves.

Tomatheus

 

Re: crap-o-meter » Larry Hoover

Posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 6:05:16

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

> > >You could also be caught up into the frenzy in particular when Mr. Hsiung's big guns, Scott and Larry Hoover, are leading the mob.
> >
> > Hahaha
> >
> > I'm sorry but this guy cracks me up.
>
> I'm a big gun now? LOL. I have the same problem you do, JK. I just can't wade through all the crap, all of the time. I had missed that line.


How does it feel to be a big gun? I know I'm honored to be part of the mob :)


>
> I know you're relatively new here, JK, but I consider myself something of a Psychobabble graduate.

Actually I used to post here years ago. I think I recognize your name.

> I went through some incredibly difficult times for about a decade (and I may have inadvertently imposed on others here, in times of personal distress), but this place saved me. I learned things about myself, about how to cope, that I would otherwise not have learned. Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment. I owe a debt of gratitude to Psychobabble, and especially its members, for that opportunity.

I'm struggling right now so I, too, appreciate this place, the posters, and the generous spirit of so many.

>
> I left here, years ago, because of Lou. He made my blood boil (and Dr. Bob's tolerance of Lou was a close second, in that regard). I came back a few years later, and I left again, because of Lou. I can handle him, now.

Lou has never bothered me. I guess because I pay him little to no attention. I just don't care. However, I do care about his effect on new posters so I think its worth keeping an eye on that.

Glad to hear you're doing so well!

Jade

>
> Lar
>

 

Re: to Larry » Larry Hoover

Posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 9:08:36

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

Hi again Larry,


> I know you're relatively new here, JK, but I consider myself something of a Psychobabble graduate. I went through some incredibly difficult times for about a decade (and I may have inadvertently imposed on others here, in times of personal distress), but this place saved me. I learned things about myself, about how to cope, that I would otherwise not have learned. Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment. I owe a debt of gratitude to Psychobabble, and especially its members, for that opportunity.

Would you mind sharing how you were able to "re-invent" yourself? I'm wondering what life changes/meds/etc. you found to be useful in achieving your recovery. My depression is fairly long standing and I would sure appreciate any advice.

Thanks in advance,

Jade
>

 

Re: to Larry

Posted by Fiftylager1 on March 10, 2016, at 10:29:45

In reply to Re: to Larry » Larry Hoover, posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 9:08:36

I'd love to know to.. All I've been questioning myself lately is are there any bipolar out there who have found a truly happy meaningful life. Or is this just forever. Started when I was a kid and I'm now.. I Don't think I can face another 30 more years of this. I don't even look forward to tomorrow except for the nap I may get to take and being called lazy for it.

 

Lou's response-The Water of Life » Larry Hoover

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2016, at 10:33:54

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

> > >You could also be caught up into the frenzy in particular when Mr. Hsiung's big guns, Scott and Larry Hoover, are leading the mob.
> >
> > Hahaha
> >
> > I'm sorry but this guy cracks me up.
>
> I'm a big gun now? LOL. I have the same problem you do, JK. I just can't wade through all the crap, all of the time. I had missed that line.
>
> I know you're relatively new here, JK, but I consider myself something of a Psychobabble graduate. I went through some incredibly difficult times for about a decade (and I may have inadvertently imposed on others here, in times of personal distress), but this place saved me. I learned things about myself, about how to cope, that I would otherwise not have learned. Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment. I owe a debt of gratitude to Psychobabble, and especially its members, for that opportunity.
>
> I left here, years ago, because of Lou. He made my blood boil (and Dr. Bob's tolerance of Lou was a close second, in that regard). I came back a few years later, and I left again, because of Lou. I can handle him, now.
>
> Lar
>
Friends,
Be not dismayed. Larry Hoover got a new pair of shoes. Larry Hoover did not leave here. I sent him out. You see, Larry read my posts and was sent back to the Green fields that he used to know. Gone were the dark clouds and the cold winds of addiction and depression as Larry was sent to a new land from here.
You see, I have petitioned the Word of God to rain down here providing the Water of Life to water you here to bring forth the bud, that it may give seed to make The Bread of Life. And this word will not return to the sender void, but it shall accomplish that which it is sent forth.
For you shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and hills shall break forth before you in singing, and all the tress of the field shall clap their hands.
Larry has got off the train that leads to addiction and life-ruining conditions and death. He sings a new song. You see, the Water of Life being rained down here falls on the just and the unjust. And from that Water comes the Bread of Life. I have come here to show you how you could eat The Bread of Life and be delivered from addiction and depression like Larry Hoover. And you could have that Bread today and eat of it daily rather than take drugs daily. Larry Hoover takes no psychotropic drugs now.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response-The Water of Life

Posted by Fiftylager1 on March 10, 2016, at 10:42:02

In reply to Lou's response-The Water of Life » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2016, at 10:33:54

The bread of life? Deliver us from drugs and depression? You sound like one of those people who won't let their kid have a blood transfusion and die of preventable blood loss. Chemo is poison and saves lives. But some people believe the power of prayer and break of life and stuff will cure them. Give me some statistics on how many people lived by turning their back on medicine when they needed it. Next time you develop a bacterial infection I will pray for you when you don't take life saving antibiotics. Just eat your bread of life. People die because of propaganda like yours.

 

Re: to Fifty » Fiftylager1

Posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 11:19:52

In reply to Re: to Larry, posted by Fiftylager1 on March 10, 2016, at 10:29:45

Hi Fifty

> I'd love to know to.. All I've been questioning myself lately is are there any bipolar out there who have found a truly happy meaningful life. Or is this just forever.

Its not forever!! You have so many avenues yet to try. I'm not giving up and neither should you.

> Started when I was a kid and I'm now.. I Don't think I can face another 30 more years of this. I don't even look forward to tomorrow except for the nap I may get to take and being called lazy for it.

My T has been stressing the importance of taking care of ones self in the moment. We are ill. We will get better I promise. I've experienced enough remission that I know its possible. Unfortunately it takes time and a lot of trial and error.

You are not lazy!! You are suffering from a very real illness. Disregard the looks, comments, etc. from people who have not walked in your shoes. Be kind to yourself (I'm posting this thinking I need to take my own advice :)

Jade

 

Re: Lou's response-The Water of Life » Lou Pilder

Posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 11:29:33

In reply to Lou's response-The Water of Life » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2016, at 10:33:54


Friends,
> Be not dismayed. Larry Hoover got a new pair of shoes.

Awesome Larry :)
I'm sure they were well deserved.

 

Lou's response-The Water of Life-Larry's shoes

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2016, at 11:44:07

In reply to Re: Lou's response-The Water of Life » Lou Pilder, posted by J Kelly on March 10, 2016, at 11:29:33

>
> Friends,
> > Be not dismayed. Larry Hoover got a new pair of shoes.
>
> Awesome Larry :)
> I'm sure they were well deserved.

Friends,
Larry Hoover got a new pair of shoes. These shoes allow Larry to walk a different walk than being on psychiatric drugs. A walk of freedom. A walk of life. A walk of victory. A walk to The Promised Land.
You see, these shoes are made for walking. And if one just stands there they do not walk. Larry has a new walk, a walk in the Light of Life. He has walked out of the darkness, though he walk through the valley of the shadow of death he fears no evil, these shoes will enable him to walk in the midst of trouble. And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse he said to me, "He that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.".
Lou

 

Re: crap-o-meter » Larry Hoover

Posted by Tabitha on March 10, 2016, at 12:19:34

In reply to Re: crap-o-meter » J Kelly, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2016, at 21:41:19

> Whereas I had been 100% disabled, surviving on the pittance the government throws you to keep you barely alive, I've re-invented myself, and I'm doing well in a professional environment.

Hi Larry! It's great to hear you are still doing well. I remember at one point you were fighting a pain condition. Did that resolve?

 

Re: to Larry » Fiftylager1

Posted by SLS on March 10, 2016, at 14:18:40

In reply to Re: to Larry, posted by Fiftylager1 on March 10, 2016, at 10:29:45

> I'd love to know to.. All I've been questioning myself lately is are there any bipolar out there who have found a truly happy meaningful life.

:-)

It is difficult. I think it depends on the degree of severity of your depression and the health of your core psyche. The worse the depression, the greater the need for support. This might include psychotherapy. For me, psychotherapy was helpful. However, I also made it my goal to follow a path towards self-actualization according to the model of Abraham Maslow. For me, this was much more helpful. Both modalities together made it easier for me to WORK towards a truly happy and meaningful life. The depression must be sufficiently ameliorated in order to reach the goal, but if the other things are addressed prior to finding an effective biological treatment, you have a head start. I'm about 40% improved with respect to my bipolar depression, so my mind has more resources to work with.

> Or is this just forever. Started when I was a kid and I'm now.. I Don't think I can face another 30 more years of this. I don't even look forward to tomorrow except for the nap I may get to take and being called lazy for it.

I know.

Please hang in there. Even if you have tried every single drug out there, I doubt you have come close to using all the permutations of combining them. Your bipolar illness is probably difficult to treat, but probably not impossible. There are a handful of new non-invasive brain stimulation techniques available or in development. Some truly novel compounds are on their way, although they are a few years away.

Depression is truly an altered state of consciousness. It can be smothering. When it is severe, sometimes all you have is hope. Hope will help you stay alive and give you the resilience to better tolerate frustration and pain.

No antidepressants:

You might explore combining Lamictal, lithium, and Abilify - possibly with NAC. These are for the bipolar depression.

For GAD, things are more difficult without using an antidepressant. Lyrica is one option. I would also give some consideration of using prazosin if there exists a history of childhood chronic physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect. Propranalol is a possibility.

Have you ever tried a MAOI?


- Scott

 

Re: Lou's response-The Water of Life » Lou Pilder

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 10, 2016, at 23:25:14

In reply to Lou's response-The Water of Life » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2016, at 10:33:54

I just got home from a conference, and I am exhausted from travelling, but I have to respond to this post before I hit the sack.

How dare you, Lou sociopath Pilder, to even have the audacity, the temerity, the complete lack of empathy, the absence of boundaries, the delusion, to even try and take credit for MY hard work, and MY re-envisioning of MY life, such that I am no longer disabled by both physical and mental disabilities.

Fuk U, Lou. Fuk U.

That's where you went to university, isn't it?

Lar


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