Posted by DynaUnity333 on October 13, 2004, at 4:33:00
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by mcp on October 13, 2004, at 3:54:10
MCP, you are completely missing the point.
I too think its a stupid idea to look for a pill to mask the feelings that started the person drinking in the first place,
If you actually read what i wrote in my first post you will see that i suggest that there are medications that can speed up the process of getting better from protracted alcohol withdrawal and that can rid people of the cravings.
If someone can speed up their recovery and rid their cravings using a pill then who the hell are you or AA to tell them that asking about information regarding such a pill, to be the wrong thing to do.
Plus you trivialise the many many different reasons people become alcoholics.For example it has been proven that a huge percentage of alcoholics have a blood sugar disorder which forces them to crave sugar and the quickest way to relive that feeling is with alcohol, subconsciously or consciously. If a pill can control the blood sugar problems thus evaoprate thealcohol cravings then surely that is the way to go, rather than have someone preach about a twelve step program that isn't going to go any where near correcting a body chemistry problem.
There is also new whisperings in the medical world that way way too many people are being given the serotonin based medication, and the complications of this are severe. increasing the serotonin levels of a patient whose levels are already high enough or in some cases even too high can again cause severe blood sugar problems, and the patients find the quickest way to deal with this problem is to drink. Quick sugar hit, the quickest we know in fact.
NO TWELVE STEP program, and NO amount of one looking at themselves is going to change a body chemistry that is promoting alcohol consumption.Two years ago i looked at myself hard and decided that i needed to lose the 150 ilbs i had put on with PAXIL and get rid of the alcohol problem i had also aquired whilst taking the AD.
Two years later i no longer take the AD, i have lost the 150lbs, i no longer smoke, and i have been sober for a very long time. However every single day is like hell on earth because every single day at a certain time the cravings kick in and the over stimulation i feel from it and the abnormably high serotonin levels in my brain these days is too hard to take. I dont break down and drink though, nor do i go on the AD that my doctor wants me to go on because it was the AD that caused this mess in the first place.AA can't rid me of this, and they made me feel like a failure because i kept questioning why i wasn't getting better and even though i had achieved so much in two years i still felt ill every day.
I won't be demeaned and if there is a medication that can correct my chemistry and reduce the cravings, hell ill take it forever, but i won't sit back and listen to some people act like they know every single thing there is to know about this disease because there are too many factors involved, too many reasons it develops and too many reasons why sobriety is hard to sustain than to trivialise it to a twelve step program, and then berate those who dont find it useful.
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