Posted by sofarsogood on June 20, 2004, at 20:42:03
In reply to Re: Buprenorphine - Thanks! And..., posted by rianna on May 5, 2004, at 18:29:27
I HAVE BEEN AN DAILY ABUSER(OTHER THAN WHEN I COULD NOT GET THEM AND FELT LIKE SHIT
) OF OC 80-160 MG AVERAGE .THE OLD CRUSH AND SNORT FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS. I HAVE PRIOR TO THAT ABUSED JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU CAN NAME I . I lived the seeker life style. Keeping IT FROM WIFE AND FAMILY AND COMING UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD REASONS MONEY WAS DISAPEARING.HAD A PART TIME JOB FOR PILLS. ANY WAY THE REASON I AM POSTING IS I HAD ENUOGH.AFTER MUCH RESEARCH, I WANTED TO DO A MEDICALLY ASSISTED W/D.I WENT TO A DONE CLINIC AS A FEW OF MY FRIEND HAVE WITH FOR THE MOST PART POSITIVE RESULTS .(LITTLE SLIP UPS HERE AND THERE )THEY ALL WISH THEY DIDNT . CLAIM ITS REALLY HARD TO GET OFF. I WAS INTERESTED IN BUPE. BUPE IN A DONE CLINIC IS LIKE BEING ON DONE. AM. DOSE DAILY @CLINIC. BUT MUCH MORE MONITERD REGIMENTED AND THEY ARE REAL QUICK TO KICK YOU OFF THE PROGRAM.DOC MEETINGS ONCE A WEEK.TWICE A WEEK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY YOU MUST GO TO A MEETING OF SORTS.AND @ NIGHT GROUP MEETINGS WITCH MIGHT BE GOOD FOR SOME .ZERO FLEXIBILITY IN ANY OF THIS. MY CAREER DOES NOT ALLOW ME TO DO ANY OF THIS AS MUCH AS I STILL WAS INTERRESTED. THE INTAKE COUNSELER WAS COOL. RECOVERD SMACK ADDICT. SO HE WAS ABLE TO SEE WERE I WAS COMING FROM. I ALSO HAD THE PLEASURE OF SOME OTHER ASS HOLE WHO APPARENTLEY IS IN CHARGE OF THE BUPE PROGRAM COMING IN THE ROOM. AFTER HE BELITTLED ME FOR "NOT BEING READY TO GET OPIATE FREE"DUE TO ME NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS HE TOLD ME TO COME BACK WHEN I AM READY. I ALMOST TOLD HIM TO PISS OFF.THEN THE COOL GUY TRIED TALKING ME INTO DONE SO I TOLD HIM THANK YOU AND LEFT. AFTER MUCH RESEARCH I FOUND THE BUPE LIST GOOGLE SEARCH YOU CAN TOO.OF DOCS WHO DO IT IN AN OFFICE OUT PATIENT SETTING.I LIVE IN A POPULATED AREA SO THERE WAS A SHIT LOAD. MANY WITH REQUIREMENTS SIMILIAR TO THE DONE CLINIC(THEY WERE DONE CLINICS OF SORTS). MANY LISTED AS TAKING MY HEALTH INSURANCE BUT NONE WOULD. SOME(THE MORE AFFORDABLE) SEEMED NOT SO ON THE UP A FEW PLACES GIVING 3 DAYS OF TAKE HOME INJECTIONS AND NO SUPPORT,NICE HUH. MOST ON THE LIST WERE NO LONGER DOING BUPE,OR NOT TAKING NEW PT. EACH QUALIFIED DOC (8 HOUR CLASS) AND A PIECE OF PAPER CAN ONLY TREAT 30 PT.IN THE US. AT A TIME. I LUCKILY FOUND A PLACE REAL CLOSE TO HOME WHO SPECIALIZES IN RAPID DETOX,ADDICTION THERAPY,PHYCOLOGY AND BUPE .1ST YOU MUST BE IN W/D I WAS ABOUT 60 HRS(ONLY CAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING AROUND) I DIDINT LOOK TO HARD EITHER I FIGUERD IN TWO DAYS I WAS PUTTING MY PLAN TO QUIT INTO ACTION. RECOMMEDED AT LEAST 24 HOURS BY COUNSELER.THE FURTHER YOU ARE THE BETTER YOU FEEL WHEN YOU GET THE BUPE. WENT THRU ONE BAD DAY .DAY 2 BUT STILL SWEATY, ANXIOUS,RUNNY NOSE ,AGITATED BLOWN PUPES THE HOLE NINE FOR MY APPOINTMENT .I SIGHNED IN AND TOOK A SEAT LIKE A REAL DOCTOR OFFICE.THE INTAKE GUY WAS VERY RECEPTIVE EXPLAINED IT ALL TO ME ASKED ME A TON OF Q'S AND HAD ME SIGN A FEW PAPERS.NOW THE KICKER $2000. I KNEW THIS THOUGH BUT FOR MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THIS IS NOT A FEASIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY AT ONCE TO PAY . ALTHOUGH I WAS SPENDING $600-$800 MONTH ON OC PLUS 60 PRESCIBED BY DR FEEL GOOD PERC 7.5.AND WHATEVER ELSE CAME DOWN THE LINE IT WAS ALL ADDING UP AND JUSTIFIABLE IN MY EYES . I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK. BRIEF CHECK UP WITH DOC . DOC CALLED IN BUPE. WENT AND PICKED IT UP. CAME BACK TO OFFICE AND I WAS ADMINISTERD 16 MG SUBUTEX. FELT BETTER IN 30 MINUTES OR SO THEN HE ASKED IF I WANTED ANOTHER . I TOOK 4MG MORE. I WAS NOT HIGH BUT FELT GOOD A LITTLE CHEERY MABEY BUT NOT OC HIGH. HE TOLD ME THE FIRST WEEK 8MGS AM 8 MGS PM.IF MID DAY W/D TAKE A LITTLE PIECE.(THIS WAS MY INSTRUCTIONS THRUOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS). IT WAS WORKING NO CRAVINGS NOT FEELING LIKE SHIT . WASHING MY TRUCK DOING STUFF WITH OUT HAVING TO DO SNOOTERS. WE HAD A TAPER OFF PLAN .AFTER A LITTLE MORE THAN A WEEK I SWITHCHED TO SUBOXONE.TAPERING DOWN OVER I GUESS ALMOST TWO MONTHS DOWN TO 1 MG DAILY .5 AM .5 PM. I ALMOST FELT LIKE IT WAS IN MY HEAD @ 2MGS DAILY .THAT THIS LOW DOSE WAS WORKING SO I SKIPPED A DAY AND A HALF. IT WAS WORKING. ONLY PROBLEM WAS SLEEP. I ALWAYS HAD SLEEP PROBS. WE TRIED TRAZADONE? 2 NIGHTS ADJUSTED DOSES. MADE ME FEEL WEIRD FELL ASLEEP BUT WOULD WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT . NEXT ELAVIL BASED ON THE POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS I TOLD HIM I DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THIS MEDICATION. FINE NO PROBLEM. I ASKED FOR AMBIEN . AMBIEN HAS A HIGH POTENTIAL FOR ADDICTION HE SAID NO. I ASKED FOR JUST ONE I WAS A WEEK INTO THIS AND HAVE NOT HAD A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP. HE CALLED ME IN 5 RESTORILL? THIS STUFF IS GREAT. IT IS A BENZO SO IF YOU LIKE THE BENZO THING MABEY SKIP THIS PART . IM NOT INTO IN THEM I NEEDED SLEEP.BACK TO THE WALK OFF ,THE END. .5MG AM .5MG PM.ON MONDAY. TUESDAY NOTHING AT ALL I HAD TO GO TO WORK.I FELT OK BUPE HAS A LONG HALF LIFE.I WAS PERSCRIBED CLONIDINE .2 6-8 HOURS FOR W/D SYPTOMS THIS STUFF WORKED FOR ME GREAT.10MG VALIUM EVERY 8HRS AS NEEDED FOR ANXIETY.AND SOME MORE RESTORILL.I TOOK ALL AS PERSCRIBED . I SLEPT MOSTLY FOR WENDS,THURS,FRI.SAT I FELT EXTREMELY TIRED BUT WAS FUNCTIONING. DOWN TO .1 .05 CLONIDINE IF NEEDED 6-8 HRS FOR W/D SYMPTOMS. AT THIS DOSE YOU CAN FUNCTION AND 5MG VALIUM IF NEEDS BE. PLUS THE SLEEP AID.7 DAYS OPIATE FREE. ALOT OF NERVOUSE ENERGEY AND MAJOR TENSNESS? 5-10 MG VALIUM UPON ONSET WORKED.ABLE TO FUNCTION BUT TIRED. I WILL TAKE OCCASIONAL .1 MG CLONIDINE IF I FEEL I NEED TO . DOES NOT PUT ME OUT LIKE IT DID IN THE BEGINING. FOR THE MOST PART IM COMFORTABLE.ALL THESE MEDS IF ONE DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE WOULD BE NEAR THE, I WOULD GUESS ,$600-$700 RANGE.I LET MY WIFE IN ON MY LITTLE SECRET SO I WAS ABLE TO SHELL IT OUT AND SHE WAS SUPPORTIVE.THANK GOD. FEW FRIENDS HAVE HORROR STORIES.ANYWAYS IM ONLY 13 DAYS OPIATE FREE.I AM EXPERIENCING WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE DEPPRESSION IE TIRED ANXIOUS,A LITTLE CRANKY,ANXIETY AND JUST NOT HAPPY OR HIGH. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ANY LONG TERM OPIATE ABUSER. IT TAKES THE HUMAN BRAIN THREE MONTHS TO GET BACK TO PRODUCING ALL THE CHEMICALS THAT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL THERE NORMAL AFTER LONG TERM INTENSIVE DRUG ABUSE.WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES YET IM GIVING IT 3-4 MORE WEEKS.THAN I MIGHT TRY SHORT TERM PAXIL.MABEY A GOOD TALKING TO WOULD HELP.WHO KNOWS. I GOT AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE SHRINK AGAIN. I ALSO HAVE A COUNSELER THAT I CAN CALL PRETTY MUCH WHEN EVER FOR WHAT EVER AND HE DOES HIS BEST TO HELP ME AND HE HAS GUIDED ME THRU THIS PROCESS.ALL FOR THE AMAZING LOW PRICE OF $2000 (ME TRYING TO BE FUNNY.)SOME SURGICAL FINANCE COMPANIES WILL GIVE LOANS IF YOU CAN QUALIFIE. NOW THE HARD PART KEEPING OPIATE FREE.WISH ME LUCK I HAVE NO ADVICE ON THIS AS I AM TRYING NOW TO DO IT MYSELF.I FEEL A GREAT ACCOPLISHMNET KICKING THE SHITTY HABIT AND I HAVE REMOVED MYSELF FROM THE SEEKING LIFE STYLE. DRUG FRIENDS CERTAIN PLACES VARIOUS TRIGGERS. THIS I FEEL IS A MUST.I JUST WANT TO ENJOY LIFE WITH OUT HAVING TO HAVE A SUBSTANCE OR SOME OTHER OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. GOOD LUCK I HOPE I WAS HELP TO AT LEAST ONE PERSON AS THE INTERNET HELPED ME LEARN ALOT ABOUT BUPE,DRUG ABUSE AND HOW TO GET OFF IT .
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