Posted by alexandra_k on February 8, 2022, at 23:00:29
In reply to Re: she sold it, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2022, at 21:58:38
So...
The switch-lite is kind of a gateway into the Nintendo system.
It is brilliant / ingenious of them. A relatively cheaply priced console. Something kids can get their parents buying out of the price-point comparison and also the hope (perhaps) that the kids will play it quietly and not commandeer the TV. I mean it is not cheap (in NZ dollars) but it is considerably cheaper than alternatives on the market. And the quality that you get... It really is a phenomenally terrific product. It makes me think that sale of other products is subsidizing it... For them to be able to offer such a high quality product so cheaply (relatively speaking).
And of course... My understanding develops... It is really about... Those game cartridges.
Pfft.
But *what is it* about those game cartridges?
Wells... They are still figuring / sorting things out...
What is the situation?
Wells... So far as I see it or understand it... The people are right to be genuinely worried about governments or other idiots choosing to use power for ill / harm. For example, why would you voluntarily purchase something like an electric motor vehicle when it is so easy for people who have the power and authority (not you) to lock you out of your own car or to refuse to allow you to drive someplace you want to go or else to refuse to allow you to drive anyplace at all? Think of the logistics that go into refusing to allow you to drive your electric car vs the logistics that go into refusing to allow you to drive your mechanical car. Now... As a consumer... Why would anybody in their right mind choose to buy an electric vehicle? Why would anybody in their right mind (given the current state of governments and so on and so forth) choose to hand over that kind of power to the powers that be?
It doesn't really make much of any sense...
Similarly...
Different models, here... Let's suppose (for sh*ts and giggles) the actual idea or ideology is to try and figure out the thing that's most fair for all parties with an interest...
1) You have an online platform and you pay an ammount to access whatever you want on the platform for the duration of the subscription. E.g., something like Gamepass. Like Netflix for games. It involves a lot of bandwidth to download the entire game so that you can play it for the duration of the time you have access... But... Well... I don't know how that cashed out in real money. Does sending data cost actual money? I mean... Is it wear and tear on a satellite or a cable or.. I don't know.. You build that into the cost of the subscription -- right?
2) You pay to purchase a particular game. And then you get some kind of a key so you can download it. But what do you get for the purchase price? HOw many times can you download it on how many systems? Can only the purchaser play it? How about their kids? How about all the kids in the neighbourhood? On the one device it was downloaded to or all devices owned by teh person who paid?
It is genuinely difficult, I mean to say.
Not even at the point of how you distribute the money you receive when it comes to paying the developers and the various people involved at various points of the supply chain..
3) I like this idea of (durable and practically but not totally) indestructable game cartridges. Theres things you can do with the cartridges, too... Collect 'em all??? Wells... Lolz. Yes. Nintendo... Because... Japan. (I say that because I heard Cohh say it... I'm not entirely sure what it means... The sense I get from the phrase is... Because of some mysterious reason that nobody is sure whether it's a cultural difference or a well thought out brilliant move or quite what or why... Nobody quite knows... But there's probably some reason... That we don't quite understand...)
There is a thing about swaping.
ANd that is maybe a problem.... If you think of games like... What's it called... I don't know. LIfe is strange. A story game. You kind of want to say that there is no replayability... But is that true? Actually.. I don't think that's the case. I think there is replayability and I think people would value having it (to keep for always) on a cartridge in their library the way they value having a physical copy of lord of the rings or harry potter or whatever... On their physical shelf.
But that's a niche market. A certain kind of... Maybe. Yeah.
Anyway...
Back to the plot.
So there's gaming cartridges...
But now there's the problem of how games are often not perfect on release. ANd... There are problems of how perfect games should be expected to be on release. And problems of how much developers should pay people to try and play and bug fix the games prior to release vs how much they can... Release things a bit early and.. Get... Actual players to report bugs for them..
Hrm......
Hrm....
Hrm....
I watched Cohh play Fire Emblem (three houses) in the background when I was working on various things. Instead of crying in front of my computer about how much I hated what I had to be doing... I'd turn on a Cohh Stream and start watching him play... And at a certain point (no offense at all) I'd feel a bit bored... Like I could multi-task something else at the same time, I mean to say... So I'd just kick open my work document... ANd it would sit there... ANd I'd watch him stream... And every now and then I'd feel a bit genuinely motivated or inspired to make some alteration to the work document. ANd sometimees I'd find myself turning down the volume on his stream... Even closing it. But othertimes I'd find myself pausing it. Or, Sometimes I woudl find mjyself rewinding it a little because I missed something I really wanted to see.. Anyway... It was company to make the work feel less burdensome. I think it genuinely helped with productivity.
But... Well... I don't think it eliminated my desire to play games. NOt the really really good games. Haha. I do not feel that I was keeping up very well at all with the story on most of the things I saw him play. ANd he always made decisions different from what I would -- and I wanted to see the consequences of my decisions in game. I was glad, though, that he played the blue house (the one I had least desire to play). But I suppose I will feel that after red and yellow house play-throughs I will end up playing the blue house and enjoying it because there was a lot I missed because I was working, mostly, through his playthroughts.
I am glad Nintendo allowed streamers to stream. I think it is a good decision that will result in higher game sales. Consumers always have the choice how and whether they watch streamers stream the game and they can avoid spoilers.
But I do understand... Why they have tried to be closed about that. You don't want people to be blurting out the ending of a movie while you are standing in line to see it...
But everyone has been relying on some of that to really push the prices up on the first sales.
Combining that with early access for streamers to market sufficiently to movitage people to pay that initial purchase price...
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Back to cartridges.
The issue of bug fixes / updates.
How much you should pay (extra)) for work that's done on the product post-release. Bug fixing vs DLC's. Free DLC's when the community feels ripped off?? How is that supposed to go, exactly?
So you buy a cartridge (paying a premium price for having the physical cartridge) but instead of putting the 16GB game (let's say) on a 16GB cartridge elects to put the first 8GB of the game on the 8GB cartridge and you have to download the rest... Else you can't play the rest of the game.
Is that ok?
You pay for a physical cartrdige and when you put it into your nintendo it prompts you to enter the key you got next to your cartridge and electronically downloads the entire thing. That is to say the cartrdige was an empty key that only served to lock you out of the game because you need not only an electronic key now but also the physical cartrdige. Without BOTH you don't have access...
We aren't quite there, yet, but that's the concern after how borderlands collection chose to do their cartridge. I have yet to see if I have the first game playable without electronic key (from cartridge) or if the whole thing is electronic with the cartridge only serving as an additional thing to lock me out...
I do feel screwed. Apparently if I had have done my research properly on it I would have learned... Maybe that's true. It's borderlands? What do you expect? It's fitting, somehow...
Genuine issues to be worked out. I hope Nintendo doesn't sell-out. I hope they figure ways to subside a core quality product that's worth collecting.
I am hoping I get teh first game to play from cartrdige. I would consider that a good price / fair deal / and also lesson learned. To be fair. It cost less than a standard full price cartrdige game... For 3 games... But the first one is an old game, now..
Apparently the witcher port is solid. They put the entire game on cartridge. No massive download.
The issue with downloads is that the system doesn't come with much storage.
Animal crossings did a weird thing, too.. Pushing things, I mean to say. Genuine questions... ABout what is fair to be happening.
People did not understand what it meant for there to be 1 console per island. There wasn't a way of explaining it without spoiling the game to a certain extent.
So... Everyone in the household needs their own switch-lite? ANd their own game-card. Lol. Yeah... Indeed.
Personally... I am not enjoying animal crossing as much as I hoped that I would... But I certainly do think I have a great product with the SwitchLite.. HOpefully I can swap it for subnautica or Witcher 3.
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Looking forward...
Persona 5 Royal. C'mon.
Persona 4 -- they are going to update and re-release, they reckon.I am curious about the old school games you can get on the Nintendo Game Pass...
And I suppose I may discover / enter into the Zelda thing in that way. New one this year, maybe.. And sonic...
I am remembering now...
Another point in my life... Tekken 3 and Tony Hawk 1 and 2, I think... Lots of those... Lolz.
I think it was Sega Master System. Sonic the Hedgehog 2. That was a pretty great game. Great for a group of people just hanging out and taking turns and you hand over the controller when you lose a life and try and clock the game in a weekend or across a few weekends or whatever...
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