Posted by alexandra_k on May 3, 2021, at 15:01:25
In reply to no justice, posted by alexandra_k on May 3, 2021, at 14:48:19
i mean we had the nuremberg trials -- right? so we know what that can look like / how that goes. holding the senior people to account.
what was the major criticism of the nuremberg trials? why, it was that so many of the culprets or offenders were, apparently, offered citizenship or asylum or whatever in exchange for things they had that they only got or obtained in virtue of the abuses they committeed or the role they played in the situation.
so... asylum for doctors who had data or whatever where that knowledge was thought to be useful or helpful in some way for things that are good.
but that was a major criticism of the process.
and things have moved on. i mean... not in nz because nz has this failure to thrive.. failure to develop thing becuase of how it treats it's people.
how it repeatedly DOES NOT LISTEN while the blathering idiots blather on and black is white and up is down
you see it in how our politicians WILL NOT CANNOT ANSWER A GOOD QUESTION. change the subject for the con-munication.
Brownley gets a good interview from China. Tehy say 'journalists and diplomats can come here if they come here with an open mind'. And he says 'well now I am really worried because you are saying nothing to see here move along -- which means there is something to see here. Or you wouldn't say that. And you won't let people visit'.
Because listening comprehension 101 no work-y.
And because that's how he is. Good to know Brownley. When you say 'nothing to see here' you mean 'there's a big f*ck*ng problem'. I guess that's why you get to be as high up the hierarchy of things as you are in NZ. A necessary pre-requisite skill. Imposter syndrome much?
And they will come... Eventually. For unannounced inspections of the prisons and schools and hospitals. To see what is going on there.
NZ doesn't really have a 'historic abuses' situation. Because it's still ongoing.
We haven't apologised for the stolen generation because we are still stealing them.
F*ck*ng backwards land.
You would think we would be an a position to learn from others. Vicariously. From history. To use that to jump forwards. Like not having to re-invent teh wheel because the wheel is in the cultural environment already.
But nononononononononononononono. Why let other countries have all the fun of the abuses and atrocities they get to committ on the way... Dragging dragging dragging...
THe people who refuse to allow development.
Will not let it happen.
Memememmemememmememme just sit around singing the praises of me all day while I collect up all of the money and all of the resources for myself. Say the mighty leaders.
MOney and resources and titles and esteem only for the worst of the abusers!!!!
If you look in the news... It's only rare that wh*t* tr*sh (their view of things) gets sanctioned by the prisons. Insofar as there is justice at all... It appears to be doled out on pacific islanders in the first instance (they get named and shamed for slavery and drug crime no name supression for them) then Maaori and then wh*t* tr*sh (their view of things).
It is never the case that administration is required to answer: and then pay. For hteir crimes.
The world doesn't need another observational study of torture. Nope. With false stats. It's garbage to think that these f*ck*ng psychopaths have any skills at lal that are valued or valuable. Holding back development. Yay. Well done you. Your legacy. The world is a worse place for having you in it. Congrats.
poster:alexandra_k
thread:1114864
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20210419/msgs/1114865.html