Posted by willyee on July 1, 2005, at 23:35:03 [reposted on July 2, 2005, at 0:55:33 | original URL]
In reply to Re: medicating a sick society, posted by Nezirov on July 1, 2005, at 23:12:43
> It would take some major changes to fix it. Difficult, but hopefully not impossible.
> At some point we will have to change the fabric of society otherwise the human species will not survive.
> Destructive power is growing exponentially, but altruism appears to be decreasing. Not good trends. I could write more, but perhaps another time or a different thread? I'm going to bed. Good night.
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> As technology > Well I must agree with you there. I do believe that we are way too focused on terribly unrealistic standards for ourselves. We've come to expect perhaps more instant gratifications. Things seem disposable. We find less fulfillment in our passions in favor of a rat race that never seems to end. And then sometimes we come up empty or burn out, and blame ourselves. I don't know how to fix that...
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>I actualy agreed with some of toms comments.However tom lost his cool,and became very close to crossing the line,his co-correspondent handled it nicly.I agree with tom as to the fact chemical imbalance as a term is thrown around too easly.
Anyone should be able to see we need more scieance behind the prescribing of these medications.
What i dont agree with is tom implying depression can not be a bio chemical disorder.
Okay so lets walk this down....every part of you body can fall ill to a disease or disorder,from your ankles retaining water and swelling and using a water pill which DOES help my father,right up to diabetes where of course medication saves lives.
With this said,WHY,WHY,WHY is it hard for people to believe the brain,the most important body part,that relys on some many functions to work properly cant fall ill to a disorder.So seizures can be real,and some type of malfunction in the brain,but depression,well no that cant be.
Those comments such as snap out of it,or the one i love most,excersie and diet,i say this cause i personaly have done so since 16 hard core,and its done nodda nodda tom cruise.
I absolutly believe the people here,includin myself have fallen victim to some form of disorder,a pyhsical one,where something is not functioning up to par in the brain.
I believe its prob very complex,and what we have data and studies on our prob just the end results of the major problem,i.e low serotion levels and such.I am sure the problems is much deeper.So i agree the term chemical imbalance is just too vague.
I also feel since these medications make so much money,i dont see any incentive for the pahrm companys to do real research,why,they are not looking to spend money,but make,so they tweak an exisiting med here,there,give it a cute name with maybe a lime green neon butterfuly mascott,and put it out.
I especialy disagree with tom as to how he indirectly implied people are wrong for using these meds.These people do the SENSABLE THING,they go to their docters,they trust their docters to give them the best care,its the industry and the docs who prescribe these medications sometimes too often.I dont see how in any way its a patients fault,its a responsable thing to go to the doc when ur sick.Tom is entitled to his opinion,but yess he sure did look wired,restless,irratable,and totaly unproffesional in that interview,his counterpart was calm and collective,and brushed off toms rude and confrontaional outbursts,cheers to him.
The worst thing is for a person who does not have a clinical emotional disorder to speak adementaly on it,its very annoying.
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