Posted by Nezirov on July 1, 2005, at 19:59:05 [reposted on July 2, 2005, at 0:55:30 | original URL]
In reply to Re: personally i hope people listen to him... » Nezirov, posted by linkadge on July 1, 2005, at 19:48:49
There are few things I disagree with you on here. It would seem our opinions are not so different after all.
What I do disagree with though is your assertion that "we think there is something wrong with us". I never thought there was something "wrong" with me. I just knew I was so stressed out that I needed some therapy.
I resisted going on celexa very strongly, but there was enormous pressure put on me to do so. The "industry" *wants* you to think that there is something fundamentally wrong with your brain, but in 99% of cases there is no organic disease whatsoever. But after you take these poisons, who knows what they do to the brain.Nezirov> I will agree with you that the medications are overprescribed. And I also agree with you that many people can get the raw end of the stick, when doctors don't listen to their patients.
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> The DSM is not the reason that so many people are on meds these days. It's partly due to the drug companies advertising the meds on TV (which should not be allowed IMO) and its partly due to ourselves. We want perfect lives, and when things are less than perfect we think that things are wrong, we think that we are abnormal, and that there is something wrong with us. Its *our* fault that we are willing to work 80 hours a week, and stress ourselves to suicidal, just to get more money, status etc.
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> Nobody is forcing us to take these medications. We choose them. We can choose not to take them.
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> We also want fast results. Sure, eating right, exercising, and choosing a less stressfull job would probably help 50 % of "mental illness" out there. But we want to keep our job, sit on the couch and eat garbage, and feel better overnight.
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> Depression is a signal. But in the end it is our fault for wanting our cake, and to eat it too.
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> Just as heart disease can be caused by this toxic lifestlye, it can still exist in the absence of any toxic lifestyle. That is where meds can help. For those who do make every concieveable lifestyle change that could improve their depression and yet they still want to slit their wrists on a daily basis. This is where meds can help. But I will admit, I am not one of those people.
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