Posted by rainbowbrite on March 31, 2005, at 19:54:04
In reply to Re: Strivectin? » rainbowbrite, posted by Spoc on March 31, 2005, at 14:52:38
> No, like many things in life, especially things as subjective as beauty products, of course you will hear a lot of opinions. That's why it's good to try to stick with things that also have fact behind them, and NOT just from the sometimes impressive-sounding "data" or research of the manufacturer!!!!!
they do a really good job of impressing me!! :-P
> It can be hard researching this stuff and knowing what is reliable, so I'll mention one site that is pretty easy to use, and if you're not too familiar with evaluating info that you get in ordinary Google type searches, will help keep you on track more than just doing that. It isn't totally unbiased because things are sold there, but it's better than most. The woman behind it has a scientific background I think (it says), and she comments on whether many products actually do anything permanent/worthwhile or not: cosmeticscop.com. Look at the Q&A on the main page, and also under Learn > Product Reviews.
you have such great sites..It is so confusing when trying to figure stuff out, I wasw certain that strivectin was good :-P maybe it was all the celebrity hype :-)
> Oh for sure!!! The earlier you start, the better! Tretinoin is something we should use our entire lives. Some people are what's called retinoid intolerant, and these products will irritate their skin too much, but it isn't that common. Note that when you first begin, you'll probably suffer through flaking that at the least makes it hard to get makeup on right, but it's worth it.I get really red from certain products but Im sure I dont have an intolerance.
> You may hear some people say that they think it's bad because they "swear" it thins their skin, but that is... b.s. Also, it is true that a small percentage of people will get some tiny broken capillaries from it, but that's not common at all and actually can be fixed with a certain type of laser. Don't be scared by any of that, tretinoin is wayyyyy safe and documented, and we hear potential bad things about everything.
I had heard about the thinning skin and leaving you more vulnerable to skin cancer. ive never heard of tretinoin though...Im thinking of AHA I think...alot of names lol
> Most of the raves lately seem to be about a formulation called Retin-A Micro, that is supposed to do just as much good with less flaking and irritation. But my very respected derm, and pharmacist, don't think it's necessary (costs even more). I use a generic .1% that costs about $40 per 20 gram tube.
cheaper than strivectin!
> Another product that seems to be proven combines, I think, a retinoid with something else effective. It's called Avage. As far as the copper peptides, I really don't know what the bottom line on those is yet or if there is one. Last I paid attention in the fall, it looked like maybe it was going to end up ranking as credible. But, it causes a lot of irritation, puffiness and other not-fun things in almost everyone as they get used to it. Lest you've suffered reason not to, I say go with tretinoin (which is a retinoid, to add more terms to make your head spin but hopefully help you be familiar with lingo you'll see).i feel dizzy lol
> Hmmm, problem with you going to the sites I mention is that you may get overloaded with other ideas.
Yup it happened! I ventured out of skin care into plastic surgery lol...boob job...sigh
>I'd really recommend that to start with, you just call your derm or maybe even another doc you already have and ask for an rx for tretinoin. If you want to go for the gold, also mention the Obagi Nu Derm program, most derms are familiar with it. Or, as this is one of the main other products in that program, also ask for an rx of hydroquinone 4%. (Tell me if you talk to a derm and decide to do the Obagi program. Many sell it out of their offices -- it isn't available in the drugstore, but only the tretinoin part is rx. So anyway they may try to sell you the whole line but it isn't really necessary.)
I am going to go to a derm, it may take ahile to get into the one I want to go to but I will let you know. Im going to have to print this out lol
> You can also get any of this stuff online. It costs more that way, although you save a consult fee if you don't have a derm yet. But again, you have to be good at evaluating sites or you may get ripped off.
i suck at evaluating sites...Im better to go to a derm
> Right over my head! Sounds more like a fear of losing your hair, or growing too much of it! ;-)i searched a latin dictionary for the word wrinkle and ruga is 'a wrinkle' LOL so you take the latin word and add it to phobia and thats how we get all our phobias :-P
> Ok fine then, I'll just abandon my goal of someday returning to being more than brain hemispheres sitting on a chair, and hang around here! ;-)
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> SShhhh! I wouldn't want to become known as the Larry Hoover of beauty products!lol
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