Posted by alexandra_k on March 3, 2005, at 22:40:17
In reply to Re: Animal Rights » alexandra_k, posted by Larry Hoover on March 3, 2005, at 22:13:20
> > Right. So not all people would require suppliments then?
> Require, no. But they're not a huge expense, either.Depends on how much money one has I suppose...
And an expense that is unnecesary for at least some people...
> > > And it does not falsify the conclusion that some may do best with meat.
> > How much better? There is a difference between consuming meat every night and once per week.
> Was that a concession? :-0I don't know enough about nutrition.
What are you getting from meat that you can't get from non-dairy again???
> For it to enter one's urine, it must first have entered the bloodstream, and gotten past the liver.You mean it can't just go straight through the torus??
> In the stomach, duodenum, small and large intestine, membranes are set up to allow the passage of a variety of substances into the body out of the gut, and provides numerous pumps for important stuff to enhance uptake further. Getting nutrients past the gut membranes is uptake. Swallowing is intake, and they're not synonymous.Ok. So we would be able to measure uptake by blood samples. I am not sure how much of what is in suppliments gets into our blood. I suppose blood tests could let us know that... People (women) used to be given iron injections (not sure whether it was IV or muscular) - but not so much anymore. It was found that they didn't really help iron deficiency all that much after all...
> It tends to substantially increase the blood concentration of that nutrient, but the instant that happens, the kidneys start to let it go. The kidneys just don't seem to be that "smart", really, or we've evolved to expect fairly frequent intake of most nutrients.Or maybe the kidneys are actually pretty smart in helping the body get rid of excess...
> Yellow urine is proof of uptake, and blood enrichment.
Are you sure most of it doesn't just go straight through the torus???
> I think I could find ways to manage the human.Heh heh!!!
>Mice are small and scurry into walls. They also breed when they're only a few weeks old.
Yeah. They are much more of a problem over your side of the wall apparantly. We get a possum problem instead... I don't know. Anyone have any ideas for humane removal of mice??? I don't know. Have to admit I'd kill them myself (try to find the least painful method possible).. I am not sure what Singers position on that would be.
> Empirical evidence is a major component of my own decision-making.
But it can be hard to figure out what the 'empirical evidence' actually says...
> I'm comfortable with my decisions.Thats nice.
Shall we focus on the meat eating decision in particular?
But do you believe that is ethical?
Can you point to something going wrong with Singer's argument?(You don't really want to talk ethics anyways, you want to talk nutrition...)
:-(
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