Posted by gabbix2 on May 9, 2003, at 18:40:22
In reply to I don't believe society is getting worse--my view, posted by lostsailor on May 8, 2003, at 23:27:32
> It may not be getting worse, but sadly not advancing either and that is a tad sad.
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> Discrimination is illegal for the most part, but still exists.I don't think the fact that something is illegal can be over valued though, that to me speaks of a huge advancement in thinking.
Especially when it was the upper 'classes' the leaders who encouraged the abuses in the past. To be able to bring a discrimination case to court is an amazing advancement. Granted the actual resolution of such cases have a long way to go, but this has happened in an extremely short period of time people's attitude's have not had a chance to catch up yet."Witch" trials do not happen any longer, per se, and almost all religions are tolerated in the eyes of those that are deciding which religion is right.
> --unless you are a pagan, Buddhist, Christian, Muslim ectI'm not quite clear on what you meant there.
But I do think "intolerence' is mild compared to systematic torture and stoning.
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> Infidelity seems in vogue.It could easily be argued that "fidelity" and marriage were convenient inventions ways to keep women from owning property and a way for a man to know that any offspring were his own.
I'm saying that "could be argued" and there is plenty to back that up. I'm just not going to do it here, because its not really the place for it.
So to some women the ability to be free or 'unfaithful is a good thing along with that choice came the freedom to learn about her body, to choose birth control, to not be 'owned' by her husband , to not wear a chastity belt and die of blood poisoning, to not have parts of her body removed because she's considered "frigid" (1950)
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> Neatly packaged meats, definitely make the animal in them suffer less.The acknowledgement that animals are sentient and suffer is although not believed by all, at least accepted and it wasn't more than 200 years ago that was a laughable idea
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> There is more, I am sure, but you get the jist...!!!I think I do see your point, I doagree these things do exist, but the fact that you find them repugnant says that we expect more of ourselves than previous generations did that Things that were acceptable even 60 years ago are not today. I think that says ethically we are improving, and have been all along.
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