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Re: Counterpoint

Posted by Phil on April 6, 2003, at 10:14:11

In reply to This war and the sad human race. Vent, posted by Alara on April 4, 2003, at 5:21:07

> It's pathetic.

War is hell.


> We applaud our allied `heroes' for rescuing one pretty, American young woman.

>>>> Now you see. We will send our troops after one 19 year old girl; we should have just left her, huh? They are big time Heroes as well as her. She emptied her M-16 on Iraqi soldiers. This is a war. Our soldiers will die to rescue one American. The Navy Seals, with help from other Elite Troops went behind enemy lines, risking all their butts for a 19 year old girl. Would you prefer this 'pretty'(tough as a boot)patriotic soldier be left with a gunshot wound, many broken bones, etc be left with the Iraqi's? The only reason for them to keep her alive would be to rape her over and over? I promise you, she'd be gang raped and tortured to death. We will send whatever it takes to rescue you or me if we were nabbed overseas. Spend millions of taxpayer dollars to save ONE person.

Meanwhile our TV stations revel in our `victories': Many hundreds of innocent Iraqui men, women and children killed in the name of war.

>>>>The U.S. goes WAY out of it's way NOT to kill civilians but it's a war, it happens.
Do you think Saddam is a nice guy to his people? We are going to save their ass. They act unappreciative so the Replican Guard doesn't hang them in the village square.

Somehow, those hundreds of lives pale into insignificance compared to that one sacred American life...See, these people are not human beings but statistics.

>>>> Have you read about Saddam and his released soldiers? Do you think Iraqi's love this guy? They are/were scared to death of him. Disagree with him, you're dead. But yes, to get Saddam out and give the Iraqi's a LIFE again, lives will be lost. They are not statistics.

They're just gory trophies for the blind forces who soldier on, in the name of their country..We never see the victims' faces in detail because our governments are too busy trying to lay on the propoganda.

>>>> Blind forces in the name of their country? These are our children. You might want to thank God you live here. In Iraq, women are treated like dogs or women and children are used as shields to keep Saddam's
released prisoners alive.
>
> Here's a paradox: Terrorists in our society are supposedly evil.

>>>>Supposedly?

The definition of a terrorist is a person who plots to kill an innocent civilian. Yet our allied forces conspire to kill the same number of `enemy' human beings who died in the World Trade Towers.


>>> Our allied forces are not terrorists? We don't plot to kill civilians, for Christ's sake.

All day at work, people play power games,trying to disarm one another in order to gain promotion and power. Finding a way of working together in order to meet common goals is the last thig on people's minds...

This is not Dilbert, it's a war.
Work isn't gassing Kurds and killing your own people or killing your Olympic athletes because they didn't get a medal. This is about a dictator on the level of Hitler who would kill you and me in a second. Quit watching TV and read about Saddam.
>
> The parallels are sad and condemning.

>>>>I think not.

> I can't help but ask: What is wrong with the human race? Why are people so greedy? Did I expect too much from others?

>>>>Ask the French, who would be German now, if it weren't for the U.S. dying by the 1000's to save their lazy asses. Allied troops along side ours. Were we greedy sending our children to fight for YOUR freedom? The U.S. is the most giving country in the world but yes, we'll kill the bad guys. An Iraqi lawyer saved the female soldier by walking 6 miles through a suicide corridor to tell our Marines. He couldn't stand seeing her beaten. Read that again.
>
> Feeling seriously jaded on my 33rd birthday.

>>You aren't jaded but I will say this, freedom isn't free and war isn't nice but I can promise you, if you were Iraqi, your perspective would be altered immensely. Happy birthday.
>
> And people wonder why I spend so much time with my cat.

>>>>Me, too. My cat is cool.

I'm against war and the U.S. has made mistakes. Once we commit to a war, now the German's agree with us, I back our troops 100%. Not our politician's, OUR TROOPS. It would make you feel better to pray for the troops instead of demonizing them...they are kids for the most part.

Read your history. We demonize the U.S. and Britian and think Saddam's a pussycat. Vent anti-Saddam, pre-invasion, to his troops, you'd be dead before you finished the sentence.

This is my country too. This ain't Vietnam.
This is getting rid of a dictator who trains terrorist, kills his own family and would blow this country up given enough time.



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