Posted by ÑåáëëçÃååêç Jonathan on September 11, 2002, at 0:17:16
In reply to Re: ¡ ß®ïÍÌïåñ† — Tabitha *You* are a genius ! » Jon At Han, posted by ¡ ß®ïÍÌïåñ† Tabitha on September 7, 2002, at 22:39:49
Hi Tabby :)
> Wow, Jonathan, you're really geeky :-)
Thanks — but I'm really just an anachronism from the days when all computer users wrote their own programs; my first computer was a slide rule. I've been a programmer for a long time but never a good one.
> Now I get why Right Alt doesn't work for me-- it only works on Macs.
Mine works for the acute-accented vowels áéíóúÁÉÍÓÚ and € (Euro = AltGr-shift-4) only.
> On Windows there is an accessory called Character Map that lets you select them and copy them to the clipboard.
Thanks — found it! Until you told me, Character Map belonged to the 99% of Windows which I'd never used. It's simpler than my way of doing the same thing; I've always had a talent for finding the most difficult solution to any problem ;) My approach, however, does have the advantage of working with exactly the same charsets as your web browser.
> These characters are soooo decorative!
You ain't seen nothin' yet :)
> I want to reprogram my keyboard to use all of them all the time. I kinda wondered if everyone would be able to see them. Was afraid that depending on the font they might not show up. I don't know anything about how font selection works on web-browsers. Presumably there's some standard set of fonts that everyone has.
Well, more or less. If you need a charset you don't already have, IE *should* download it from Microsoft.
If you save a copy of this page and view it with Notepad, about the fifth line should be something like:
<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content='text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"' />
This (or an equivalent line in the HTTP header that the server sends to your browser) is what should tell your browser which charset to use — "iso-8859-1" is the default, so it doesn't have to be correct or even there at all! My version of MSIE gets confused by those nested single and double quotes and just ignores it, though Netscape is okay, so, if you're using IE, to make changes have any effect, you should first change it to
<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
(which both browsers are happy with), save the edited file and view it with your favourite web-browser.
Now if you change the final "-1" into "-7", save the changed file and click on your browser's Refresh/Reload button, something interesting should happen to the following paragraph. It may even make some kind of sense to you, in which case you must be as geeky as I am :)
iso-8859-7 ìáç âå áëë Ãñååê ôï çùõ, Ôáâéèá, õíëåóò çùõ áñå á Öåëëïù ìáèåìáôéòéáí.
áâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñ(ò)óôõö÷øù ÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑ(Ò)ÓÔÕÖ×ØÙHere's a link to a site where you can have hours of geeky fun reading about all the charsets that there are:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets
I hope this works on whatever browser and version you're using.
Ñåáëëç Ãååêç Jïíáèáí :)
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