Posted by Phil on May 26, 2002, at 10:11:42
In reply to Lou answers Phil » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on May 26, 2002, at 8:00:12
Noooo..Lou, the words below are what Christ said 2000 years ago. Was this Christ wearing a Nazi
uniform coming back down to repeat what was already written in scripture for all to see?
You said you saw this, that's okay by me.
But if 'I' came home 30 years ago to my mother and step-father and said that I saw all of what you witnessed, I would get a free ride to the state hospital. I'm not saying you're crazy but if I said it to any friend or family they would be rightfully concerned. My friends would have wanted some of the batch of acid I was dropping.I'll wait for the end of the story and maybe that will clear things up.
You're no dummy, Lou. Actually, I think it's great to be as firm about your beliefs and it has probably made you a better person. But I'm no dummy either. This could not happen outside of a drug induces psychosis or some kind of temporary psychosis, IMHO.
The rider was parroting Christ. Unless you're Mormon, I don't believe Christ has been to our neck of the woods. Mormon's say he has and one of my best friends got the Mormon thing happening and has moved to Utah. We were in a band together and were close. He now only talks about his faith, which is fine, as long as he's telling someone else. I don't believe the Mormon's story. I also couldn't see myself belonging to a religion that believes in some sort of spiritual underwear. From what I've heard, Mormon's do represent some great family values. That doesn't make me want to join.
I think there was a mention of the church being compared to the dark ages or whatever. I work with a part-time Baptist preacher; he fills in if a church in Austin needs him. He walks the walk and is a great guy. Doesn't force any beliefs on you but rather exemplify's his faith. One of the nicest people I know. Even he says the church has done a lousy job handling mental illness and often does much harm claiming a depressed person just needs more faith. All church's, most anyway, are having to play catch up on mental illness issues.
This is also the first time in history that there are more divorces inside the church than outside.The man I work with attracts me to religion because he walks the walk and doesn't demand anything. But if I came into work every morning and he cornered me in the breakroom to enlighten me, he just lost my 10%.
I think C.S. Lewis, in Mere Christianity, said that only 15% of people that go to church do so for any intrinsic value. I have no doubt that he's right. Preachers know that as soon as 85% of the congregation leaves the building, if they even heard the message, will forget it before they get home or to the golf course.
The biggest sin in Christ's eyes was pride. Sex, stealing, murder, jealousy and all the rest stem from pride. I know I've got much to learn.
Along that same line he said,"That's why a self-righteous prig sitting in a church pew can be devoid of any true relationship with God. However, a prostitute on the street to survive the only way she knows how can call out to God and he's there.I know I've strayed here, as usual, but here's the end. God's watching and looking out for us whether we believe or not.
And I agree with an old guitar player friend, who in 1970 told me,"I don't need no middleman."The way I see things on this board is that God is nothing less than thrilled with the way we freely support each other and ask little in return. That's how my God works, and if he ever speaks out loud to me, I'll be hiding in the closet.
Phew,
Phil
The Rider was in full Nazi regaillia. We all looked up and He said," " If any man thirsts, let him drink. and later out of him shall flow rivers of living water." I asked Him who He was. He said, "I have been sent by the Father." One said, Show us the Father." The Rider answered, "If you see me, you see the Father." "I must go but I will send you a comforter to enable you to endure this Hell."
poster:Phil
thread:24510
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020523/msgs/24644.html