Posted by lou pilder on February 10, 2002, at 15:46:29
In reply to Re: Thename of the 2end Gate » lou pilder, posted by Fi on February 10, 2002, at 15:00:06
> Lou
>
> As I hope you will have discovered, this Board is respectful of individual's opinions and experiences.
>
> However, this includes a responsibility to speak only for yourself. It is offensive to people like me to have a statement like
> < We have all failed to
> love our neighbor. We have all failed to give mercy to our neighbor. We have all failed to be kind to our neighbor.
> We are failures. We are suffering because of that. >
>
> Of course, the world would be a much better place if people were kinder to their neighbours. But to state that those of us with psychological problems are suffering
> because we did not do so, or that we are all 'failures' is completely wrong. There are many, many reasons (some not yet worked out) why such conditions occur. And some of the bravest
> people I know are those who cope with psychological problems- they are far from 'failures'. A substantial percentage of people in all walks of life and degrees of success have problems at some point.
>
> Another point where I am concerned for you is your perspective that you can only get better if you gather other people into your method. This sounds very burdensome for you.
>
> None of the theories I have heard which are proven to help people include this sort of rule. I hope that you will be able to find ways of getting thru your current problems without having to seek recruits.
>
> FiFi;
The people at the 2end gate are the ones that have forgiven. They know of their failure and they know that it has caused suffering. They are the ones hat want a whole new life. They aknowledge that they have failed with their life. Those are the only people that can be at the 2end gate. If you have opened the first gate by forgiving, and you can not admit that you have failed, and the failure is in loving your neighbor, then turn around and go back. But do not discourage others from going on the road. I hold 2 world records and I am a millioniar, but I am a failure. You have failed to see what I have been talking about. I will continue to tell of what I have been a witness to, and it is real to me, and if you can't see or have no ears to hear , then go back over the great gulf( and I will explain that when someone asks) and continue your life without reading anymore of this post. Walk away. I am only seeking those that are lost.
Lou
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