Posted by lou pilder on February 8, 2002, at 12:38:11
In reply to And.....? » lou pilder, posted by Cam W. on February 8, 2002, at 11:51:01
> Lou - Hmmm .... Evasion and secrecy is not the road to the Crown of Life. The Crown of Life is found in the bible (James 12:1 - Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him).
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> Many Lutheran (ie. Christian) churches are called "The Crown of Life". Sorry, but I do not follow, nor believe in fairy tales, nor do I endorse mind control. (As a caveat, the preceding are only principles that I believe, and I do not wish to impose my beliefs on others.) For sermons on the "Crown of Life", see:
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> http://users.aber.ac.uk/emk/ap/sermons/james5.htm
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> and
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> http://www.abideinchrist.com/messages/jas1v1-4.html
> (At this site you can get a free gift!)
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> and
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> http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/crown.htm
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> This concept comes too close to the promise of "72 virgins for eternity; guaranteed eager and exclusive" (which in itself is a mis-reading of the Qur'an and, needless to say, degradating to women) given to certain Islamic fundamentalist pilots. Evangelism scares me; as does any fundamentalist religious doctrine.
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> Sorry, I'd rather live this life as if it were my only one; that way I can enjoy this life to the best of my ability. One can try reading and understanding Albert Camus' "The Myth of Sisyphus" for the reason for living in this world. A Cole's Notes sort of synopsis (translated from Camus) can be seen here:
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> http://stripe.colorado.edu/~morristo/sisyphus.html
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> As for the "7 Gates", it would seem that is a variation of the Wiccan religious doctrine. Those 7 gates being, "The Gate of Creation and Dreams", "The Gate of Knowledge", "The Gate of Memories", "The Gate of History", "The Gate of Purpose", "The Gate of Unity", and "The Gate of Divinity". See:
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> http://www.expage.com/page/martinatellsabout7gates
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> These can be (sort of) related to Maslow' "Hierarchy of Needs", or Krishna's "Nirvana" where each successive step ideally brings one closer to self-actualization and/or enlightenment.
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> Mind you, the "7 Gates of Hell" are another mythological concept; as well as being a heavy metal band (oooh, they're so scary) and a male chastity device (don't ask).
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> - Cam (who couldn't keep quiet on this topic forever)Cam;
I have nothing to do with any religion. What I a talking about is open to anyone. You do not have to be a Lutherin, or a Wickkain,or a Moslem or a Hindu or anythng else. I am not a member of Christiandom, but I knew a man that was a Christian and he said that to be a Christian you must beieve in a life after death for the Anointed One spoke of it in many places particuaary when he said that there would be a ressurction of all the dead becaue since He was raised from the dead, then so would all others .He said that to be a Christian, you were to live your life to store up treasures in heaven. ButI only want to tell what I have experianced. It hs nothing to do with any religion. It is refreshing, though, that you have resrched and found that others have experianced what I have experianced. But perhaps I can relate to the people on this board what those in history could not because the people on this board are experianing the same suffering and the same affliction that I have and they are the only peopl that could undrstand what I have to say.
Lou
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