Posted by SLS on October 30, 2017, at 23:26:47
In reply to Re: CBT anyone?, posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 8:54:19
> > Of course thoughts cause depression.
> I don't always agree with this.
I meant to indicate that thoughts *can* cause depression.
> Depression can cause thoughts and thoughts perpetuate the depression. Mood and thinking are separate things.
But are still inextricable in a resultant state? That's why it might be best to treat some people with both pharmacotherapy and psychotherapy. It is important to break the self-reinforcing cycle, as you indicate.
> > Perhaps we need to describe what we mean by the word "depression".
> Depression is a mood state characterized by negative thinking and particular feelings, such as hopelessness and sadness.
Depressed mood is a symptom of depression, but is not a necessary one for a diagnosis of Major Depressive Disorder as long as there is loss of interest (DSM IV). My depression lacks depressed mood and negative thinking. However, it does manifest as a loss of interest, anergia, anhedonia, vegetative symptoms, and cognitive and memory impairments. I would be curious what your interpretation of the DSM 5 is. I don't know. Perhaps bipolar depression manifests differently.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.- George Bernard Shaw
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