Posted by Shadowplayers721 on August 23, 2004, at 9:43:23
In reply to A Facade, posted by PTSD_Girl on August 22, 2004, at 15:19:07
***********WARNING THERE IS A MAJOR WAR ZONE AT THE END OF THIS POST*****************************
Personally, I don't mean to offend adults, but I think most adults are a facade. They are what they think is "normal", business-like, appropriate, to name a few words off my list. They have to think it over, process it, or they are operating under unconscious issues from old stuff.Kids aren't a facade to me. They come off as more natural, spontaneous, and truth sayers. Now, I am talking about a specific age here. Not teens, because they are starting to learn the facade to "fit in". I am saying around four-five group maybe. I don't want to get into the group of school children that are learning the game of keep your mouth shut and behave like good little so-so in the corner there or being bad gets good attention too game. The preschooler age to me is the natural person. Music is magical. Words have powers. Hair is beautiful. M&M's are toys. (No need for computers here folks for me.) Colors have a taste. Now, I am not wanting a debate. This is my personal opinion for myself. Perhaps, it is a different age for someone else like 40.
But, to me a four - five y/o doesn't have baggage either. Yes, I know there are developmental issues, but I just feel that's the natural person. The play is free. Language is all new.
Expressions in our faces aren't creased into our faces. We are open. We are willing. We scream when scared. We say when we need to pee or need to eat. We cry when sad. We laugh when happy. We don't even really know what ugly is or who is different yet.We haven't been fixed yet to look at someone else's rules to see how to act, think, dress, believe, and even become. The world is new. Yes, others beliefs are having effect already, but not yet fixated. So, yes, to me all adults are to a degree a facade of others beliefs, upbringing, generational view points, religous doctrins, etc. Can we ever be really free as a 4-1/2 year old again in knowing what we know now?
We have already been touched by developmental issues, beliefs, baggage issues, failed relationships, there maybe trust issues, etc.....
Here are some examples of the facade in my opinion.
1)"You must believe what I believe as important, fair/right or you must see the world as I see."
2)"You play by my rules or I will not Love you."
3)How about the game of, "Someone hurt me so I am going to hurt everybody that reminds me of the people that hurt me".
4)"I must win or be perfect at everything."
5)"I am a bad person and I never win at anything"
game."
7)"You must make me happy",
8)"I need someone to make me happy",
9)"I must save people to make me happy"
10)"I will play the sick role to get the love I want"
11)"I need unnecessary surgeries(doc visits) to get the love I need"
12)"I need Food/drugs/sex/shopping/gambling/tv/drama/chattingon-line/sports/reading/exercise/ to make me happy."(Hey, wait a minute on this one! I am personally offended! I DO need a few things on the list...)
We do so many things instead of saying, "I want you to hold me or saying I don't think you love me or just crying when someone says ugly things to us. No, we are adults and we know better..... I think we need to go back to preschool.
SHADOWS IS SOUNDING TOO PREACHY TO ME! Yes, What's with her? What's her problem?
Shadows, you have crossed the line on number 12. We have had it! We are not going to touch______________, ___________, ___________,____________,_____________&________....Shadows, I am not proof reading your posts anymore. You have totally offended me with this entire post about adults, Shadows. All of this is shear garbage. WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANY WAY??!! You act like you know it all. You don't know (OMIT). You are getting on my ever lasting nerve. (Taking this war off line)
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